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04-30-2019, 08:18 AM
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Guys, this isn’t about the line of succession. It’s dumb for the Royal Collection to not commemorate baby Sussex’s birth when there’s tons and tons of interest in this couple and this baby. They capitalized off other royal births, they could do the same here.
I think we’ve witnessed too much effort to dull down Meghan’s pregnancy. This suppose to be a royal celebration of life and it’s all been treated way too different for my liking. I’m not talking about the couple wish for privacy. I’m talking about the media side of things. Folks like me knows what’s this is about.
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JMO, but having a baby is not/should not be about public entertainment. It is also, again IMO, not about profit. It's about family and to the extent that anyone in the BRF gets this I support them. 
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You’re missing my point.
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04-30-2019, 08:23 AM
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Guys, this isn’t about the line of succession. It’s dumb for the Royal Collection to not commemorate baby Sussex’s birth when there’s tons and tons of interest in this couple and this baby. They capitalized off other royal births, they could do the same here.
I think we’ve witnessed too much effort to dull down Meghan’s pregnancy. This suppose to be a royal celebration of life and it’s all been treated way too different for my liking. I’m not talking about the couple wish for privacy. I’m talking about the media side of things. Folks like me knows what’s this is about.
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What does the media have to do with the Royal Collection Trust?
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04-30-2019, 08:27 AM
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I agree. People often ignore Harry and Meghan are relatively small cogs in the Queens and Charles media/press machine. They don’t make final decisions or dictate on matters that will effect Royal affair, image or the future . They are worked with and allowed leeway but only so far.
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04-30-2019, 08:34 AM
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Perhaps I'm misinformed, but I ordered last week my Royal Collection Trust baby teddy bear memorabilia for the Sussex baby. Cost me a almost $150.00, and it's now sold out. Some people are offering it on E-Bay at a mark-up of $600.00.
What is the difference between this and the ones in the past.
https://www.royalcollectionshop.co.u...bear-2019.html
P.S. It was a limited Edition of only 100 teddy bears being offered, so I made sure I bought mine as soon as I saw it announced.
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This is a lovely teddy bear, and I am sure you will greatly enjoy it, but it does not mention the Sussex baby in any way. That is the difference from general merchandise sold through the Royal Collection shops, and products sold and branded to commemorate certain events.
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I think we’ve witnessed too much effort to dull down Meghan’s pregnancy.
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Really? What efforts do you think have been made? What would you have preferred "The Firm" to do that they have not?
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This suppose to be a royal celebration of life and it’s all been treated way too different for my liking.
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 I thought the debate was about what is sold in Palace shops and online?
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04-30-2019, 08:39 AM
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Simply put, the Royal Collection Trust is a vast collection of treasures and artworks and items pertaining to British Kings and Queens and their families. Like many museums, popular items are reproduced and sold in various gift shops such as at Windsor Castle and Buckinham Palace. The proceeds from these sales help to fund keeping the Royal Collection intact and funded.
Baby Sussex is not being born "royal" and that's the difference why there is no commemorative items from this Trust. Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie have items still available that commemorate their births. They were born princesses of the blood. Peter, Zara, Louise and James do not.
The key word here is "royal" and as Baby Sussex isn't going to be born "royal", the Royal Collection Trust is passing this by.
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04-30-2019, 08:45 AM
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Simply put, the Royal Collection Trust is a vast collection of treasures and artworks and items pertaining to British Kings and Queens and their families. Like many museums, popular items are reproduced and sold in various gift shops such as at Windsor Castle and Buckinham Palace. The proceeds from these sales help to fund keeping the Royal Collection intact and funded.
Baby Sussex is not being born "royal" and that's the difference why there is no commemorative items from this Trust. Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie have items still available that commemorate their births. They were born princesses of the blood. Peter, Zara, Louise and James do not.
The key word here is "royal" and as Baby Sussex isn't going to be born "royal", the Royal Collection Trust is passing this by.
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The Royal Collection Trust is also part of the Royal Household and chaired by Prince Charles.
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04-30-2019, 08:51 AM
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 I agree, but was trying to avoid any implication that BP, CH, KP, etc. were somehow downplaying H and M's importance, since I believe that Harry and Meghan are fully on board with keeping their children as private citizens--at least for now.
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04-30-2019, 10:06 AM
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I don't see the big deal. There is a generic bear with "Royal Baby 2019" which is an acknowledgement. This baby is not an HRH so I mean it is what it is.
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04-30-2019, 10:28 AM
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Personally, I think the Sussexes would not mind at all if they can forego all media related to their baby. It's one thing when they are adults in front of the camera and dealing with the issues related to press. It's quite another to put a child into that position.
And I do think they are doing this for those that have supported them and their causes. It's the same as with their wedding, they are trying to find a balance between the two. Giving access, but still maintaining order and the essence of the day. One of my favorite photographs from that day was the photo from inside the church of the couple kissing and people at the bottom of the steps cheering them on. It was a lovely sight as opposed to the long lenses that would've been in that photo had they not limited the number of photogs there.
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04-30-2019, 10:43 AM
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I am thinking we should see the arrival of Baby Sussex between now and the 12th. Perhaps this coming weekend.
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04-30-2019, 10:47 AM
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I am thinking we should see the arrival of Baby Sussex between now and the 12th. Perhaps this coming weekend.
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That timeline would certainly not be amiss!
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04-30-2019, 10:47 AM
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Which is extremely stupid to not have an official collection to commemorate the baby’s birth. Don’t they know the amount of money they would be making from this popular couple and popular baby? As I said before, so much has gone on to dull down the celebration of the Sussex pregnancy. Totally different than previous royal pregnancies. It’s not about the baby being seventh in line either. 
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I think it is deliberate for everything to be low key. I think everyone, including Harry & Meghan are working at keeping the hysteria in check.
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04-30-2019, 10:58 AM
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I understand that there was no official collection to commemorate the birth of Louis and also James. If that's true, then this makes sense.
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04-30-2019, 11:40 AM
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Louis’ Pillbox?
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I understand that there was no official collection to commemorate the birth of Louis and also James. If that's true, then this makes sense.
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I see that there was a “Royal Baby 2018” pillbox.
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04-30-2019, 11:43 AM
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Just now checking in, and I was kind of hoping there would be news. At this point, I'm beginning to suspect Baby Sussex does not prefer the month of April. I too hope the baby will not arrive on another royal baby's same birthday. So, if not today, then please May 1, May 3, or May 4. Anything beyond that will surely be overdue.
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That article was back in October. It was said that Meghan was going to give birth at the Lindo wing, with 20 staff and they would all be on call for 3 months. The whole alcohol thing makes sense when her due date is here or near. She isn't going to want to use a different doctor, because her doctor was drinking the night she goes into labor.
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Ah, I don't doubt the 'no alcohol' rule is absolutely above-board and in line with normal protocol for royal baby deliveries most likely. And if I was Meghan, it definitely would make sense to me as a reasonable request to make, rather than taking it for granted. I don't have any issue with any aspect of the report. It's kind of cool to have that many specialists on hand to ensure a safe and a smooth delivery.
I think some of the team of doctors were not necessarily 'hand-picked' by Meghan, but are simply on hand for consultative purposes, at the behest of Her Majesty, the Queen.
The fall back care and attentiveness on hand by experts in their field, should make an expectant Mom feel super relaxed and stress free. But I'm sure that Meghan, as a strong, independent woman, has also firmly made all of her own personal wishes known, so that she can exert and maintain full control over her own body, her own life, and her own birth process.
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And for handy reference, here's the actual link to the original Tig feature with Meghan's former yoga guru, Duncan Parvianen (as accessed and provided in the second article above via the Internet's wayback machine):
https://web.archive.org/web/20160714...-rejuvenation/
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If its a girl and born on May 4th, they'd definitely have to name her Leia. After all, her daddy actually almost was a stormtrooper in a Star Wars movie. The only reason they didn't appear in the movie was because William and Harry were too tall. 
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That's funny. I posted in the baby name and gender thread that there's a recent article claiming 'Allegra' (of Italian origin) was Diana's favorite name for a girl, so that M&H are considering it for a baby girl. I thought in that case 'Leia' might serve as a nickname, but there are so many nickname possibilities, including 'Legra,' 'Allie,' etc.
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04-30-2019, 12:48 PM
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I had a dream last night, where I clicked onto the Daily Mail, and it said ITS A GIRL; BABY GIRL; no idea what the date was in the Dream.
I said to myself, a bit disappointed; as I had wanted her to have a BOY. Then in the dream I said oh well maybe the 2nd baby will be a BOY.
I woke up this morning and realised I was still in bed, and it had been a dream.
But it's now no longer going to be an APRIL birth. So let's see what happens this weekend? I have a feeling not much will happen until either Saturday/Sunday.
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04-30-2019, 12:49 PM
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So, the baby Sussex managed to avoid the birthdays of The Queen, Louis and Catherine&William wedding anniversary. The only significant left is Charlotte's.
I think it's safe to say now that the baby will be a May baby, right?
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04-30-2019, 01:35 PM
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Well it is looking like this will not be an April baby. Seems to be clear that this week was her due date and that is why she was April/May because it was too close to tell. It would be truly fitting for her to give birth tomorrow. I am so ready for this baby to come. Lol
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04-30-2019, 02:36 PM
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The discussion about British royal titles has been moved to the 'Questions about British Styles and Titles' thread.
The back and forth discussion about the Royal Collection's 2019 teddy bear, has been deleted.
If you wish to continue discussing the names and gender of baby Sussex, please go here.
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04-30-2019, 06:37 PM
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What is taking Baby Sussex so long? (Smile) I guess he or she likes hanging out in its mom's belly.
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