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Old 04-28-2019, 10:32 AM
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As many posters have mentioned the 12 week scan can be done between 10 and 13 weeks. However I don't think she would have traveled across the world before 12 weeks. But if she was 12 weeks on the day they announced, she is due tomorrow which is very much late April early May
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Old 04-28-2019, 11:16 AM
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And really, she’s hardly at a point of overdue for people to accuse them of lying or speculate there is something wrong...
I think accusing a woman of lying about her pregnancy is distasteful. She is not obliged to share every minute detail from conception to birth with a world of total strangers.

And to suggest ‘something has gone wrong’ seems to edge close to schadenfreude.
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Old 04-28-2019, 11:28 AM
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If "something had gone wrong" either there would have been an emergency cesarean and the baby would be born and possibly in the special care unit (and probably announced as born like Lady Louise's emergency birth) or there would be a tragedy. Neither of which would have Harry "unexpectedly" turning up at events and looking happy. He'd be at home. And they'd probably also announce it so the media doesn't keep saying "any day now".
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Old 04-28-2019, 11:47 AM
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Let's please stop speculating about something going wrong.

Meghan, her family and her doctors are the only ones who know when her official due date is, and they haven't shared that info with the public. So let's move on from the endless discussion about when Meghan had her 12 week scan.
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:40 PM
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… As for "family celebration", I also take it with a grain of salt. Maybe they meant "father, mother and maternal grandmother" in this family celebration. The Queen, however, celebrates the birth of her great-grandchildren issuing a note that says she is delighted with the birth. Sorry, but that is how it is.
Sure, that's what we might know publicly. There's no way for any of us to truly know everything that goes on privately behind-the-scenes. There is ample evidence and knowledge, however, of the fact that Queen Elizabeth is very fond of her grandson, Harry, although her very favorite grandchild is said to be Peter Phillips.

It would be rather ghastly to never be able to let down one's guard among family members, or to have to always behave primly, properly, and formally. As the years have passed, surely the Queen is much more relaxed and informal in one-on-ones with her closest family members. The Queen's appearance with Harry in the Invictus promo video with the Obamas is one indication of the Queen's more relaxed approach these days. Her Majesty's James Bond cameo for the London Olympics is indeed another example of her lightheartedness and her delightful sense of humor. The Queen is extraordinary for her ability to adapt, and for her willingness to lead with a soft touch.

Michelle Obama gave examples in her recent memoir of the Queen's humanity and her straightforward ease in foregoing strict adherence to stuffy protocol policed by royal courtiers.

IMO, there's every reason to believe that the Queen sometimes receives and visits her grandchildren informally. Certainly, the royals attend church privately at chapels inside the palaces. So the royals do see each other on many occasions that are unannounced and unseen by the public. I even suspect that Meghan may have met with the Queen privately at Windsor Castle, well before the publicly revealed tea at Buckingham Palace in advance of the eventual engagement announcement.

That said, there's no doubt there will be official acknowledgement by the Queen of Baby Sussex's birth both publicly and privately. What likely won't be released to the public in every instance are the private occasions when the Queen may see her latest great-grandchild. Perhaps at some point, another official photo will be released of the Queen surrounded by her youngest grandchildren and her great-grandchildren.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/95/1a/2b/9...1e74634dce.jpg (Peter Phillips was obviously unable to be present on this occasion)

https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpr...ll&w=940&h=705

The above past photo is now missing the newest babies, Louis, Lena, and soon-to-be Sussex newborn. And maybe Eugenie will be the next royal to announce a pregnancy.
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Old 04-28-2019, 02:33 PM
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The Queen met George at Nott Cott before she went off to Scotland on her regularly scheduled late summer visit. There is no reason to think she won't pop over to Frogmore Cottage from Windsor Castle to meet Baby Sussex.
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Old 04-28-2019, 02:58 PM
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The Queen met George at Nott Cott before she went off to Scotland on her regularly scheduled late summer visit. There is no reason to think she won't pop over to Frogmore Cottage from Windsor Castle to meet Baby Sussex.
Exactly, but that was several days after the birth, wasn’t it ? Harry can’t obviously wait for the Queen to pop up / join the “ family celebration “ before announcing the birth publicly.

Quite frankly, I don’t even know how long it will take for Charles or William to visit the Sussexes. I don’t think it will be right away.
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Old 04-28-2019, 03:13 PM
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Exactly, but that was several days after the birth, wasn’t it ? Harry can’t obviously wait for the Queen to pop up / join the “ family celebration “ before announcing the birth publicly.

Quite frankly, I don’t even know how long it will take for Charles or William to visit the Sussexes. I don’t think it will be right away.
I agree. I don't think the Queen is the type who coos over babies. When the photographs of George's christening were released I was disappointed not to see one of the Queen holding him, similar to the picture of the Queen Mother holding William at his, or Queen Victoria holding her great-grandson the future Edward VIII.
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Old 04-28-2019, 03:25 PM
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Exactly, but that was several days after the birth, wasn’t it ? Harry can’t obviously wait for the Queen to pop up / join the “ family celebration “ before announcing the birth publicly.

Quite frankly, I don’t even know how long it will take for Charles or William to visit the Sussexes. I don’t think it will be right away.
I believe the Queen's visit, as a great-grandmother, to meet George was two days after his birth. But we were told William called her after the birth and let her know both as his grandmother and the Queen.

The only delay would be if the baby is born during the middle of the night. Then the Queen is informed first thing in the morning. After that any official announcement can be made.

These are two entirely different things, a visit has nothing to do with any public announcement.
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Old 04-28-2019, 08:13 PM
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Exactly. I don't get the sturm und drang over this topic of the Queen seeing her great-grandchildren, and how she interacts with babies.

I believe that before the name is decided on, the Queen is consulted beforehand. And since the christening is more than likely going to take place at St. George's Chapel, where Prince Harry was christened, the Queen will likely attend. If he's well enough, Prince Philip might make an appearance too, but that possibility may be more in doubt since sadly we don't see Philip in public as often anymore.

I read a little earlier that Prince William was asked about the status of the upcoming birth of baby Sussex during his New Zealand walkabout. It's reported that William diplomatically responded, "I don't have my cell phone with me, so I don't know. You will probably find out before I do."
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Old 04-28-2019, 08:18 PM
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I believe the photo call that Harry, Meghan and Baby Sussex do have will be at Windsor Castle and if the Queen is still there, she may see the little one sooner rather than later.
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Old 04-28-2019, 08:18 PM
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Yes, it was announced that a photo-call would take place at Windsor Castle, where the Queen is often in residence.

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Oh I definitely agree that Meghan has probably done everything she possibly can to prepare for childbirth and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if a lot of her technique comes from yoga practices for childbirth. The internet itself is chock full of links relating to yoga and childbirth and I'd even bet that Doria is a big part of it all...
Right, you must be referring to sites and resources such as these:
https://www.yogabirthmethod.com/
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-l...a/art-20047193

https://www.parents.com/pregnancy/my...sier-delivery/
This article is very enlightening in how it details the benefits of prenatal yoga classes:
"'A woman's ability to birth a baby is directly related to her ability to let go of gripping in her muscles,' says Jane Austin, a pre- and postnatal yoga teacher based in San Francisco and the founder of the prenatal yoga school Mama Tree. Prenatal yoga poses, she adds, are designed to build strength where it's needed, as in the legs and lower back, but also to cultivate the skill of being able to release tension, tightness, and, ultimately, pain from the body..."

"... regular yoga practice has also been shown to shorten the length of labor by as much as two hours... Yoga poses may also help optimize the baby's position for birth, by allowing the pelvic bones and ligaments to open and move apart from each other. This allows the baby's head to find more room to nestle at the bottom of the uterus as birth nears. Some yoga poses, like pelvic tilts, might even encourage a breech or posterior birth baby to turn into the head-down (vaginal birth) position."

"Despite all these reassuring benefits, though, labor is complicated, and every woman's personal experience with it is different... prenatal yoga is 'about being present with your experience [and] honoring where you are in that moment.'"
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Old 04-29-2019, 11:15 AM
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I’m convinced by this time next week we will have a baby. Based on when Doria arrived, announcement etc I think she is already a week overdue. Exciting!
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Old 04-29-2019, 11:22 AM
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I’m convinced by this time next week we will have a baby. Based on when Doria arrived, announcement etc I think she is already a week overdue. Exciting!
I think they would have induced or done a C-section if she were a week overdue.
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Old 04-29-2019, 11:38 AM
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Yeah, I keep checking online in the mornings for the last week and nothing.

Bringing this conversation over from Current events thread where tours were being discussed in connection with the Sussexes possible future plans to have another child, by late 2020 or early 2021:

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I think it's way too soon to be talking about another pregnancy. I have a feeling it's probably the last thing on Meghan's mind at this point.
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Well said, Jacqui. I think Meghan is probably just about being done with being pregnant for now, and is unlikely to be contemplating another one just yet.
The way Meghan cradled her baby bump throughout her pregnancy, and the fact she's very in touch with her body via years of yoga practice, I have an inkling that she's been glorying in her pregnancy, even despite any physical discomforts.

The DoS has also been focused on a ton of other goings-on in her new life (patronages; royal engagements; new role with QCT; daily life taking care of her dogs and her husband; home renovation and decoration; moving plans; gardening plans; keeping in touch with friends; intimate dinner parties; vacation and tour planning; practical matters; learning about royal family history & the Royal Collection from Prince Charles; nesting and down time; preparing for baby's arrival and opening a ton of baby gifts; yoga practice; spiritual practice; charitable fund-raising; writing speeches; contributing posts to the new Instagram account; wardrobe planning; cultivating her new family relationships -- Whew)

From specific comments and advice Meghan has uttered in the past, I think she is someone who appreciates and fully takes in each and every moment. So right, she is likely very focused on what's happening now, and she's not stressing about the future. Although keep in mind that the royal family does tend to plan future engagements at least a year in advance. Most likely, things are in a bit of flux now with so much going on among the royals, so the Sussexes may have discussed future planning, but nothing is written in stone, including when they might consider trying for another pregnancy.
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Old 04-29-2019, 12:10 PM
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Lets please move on from discussing when Meghan might become pregnant again - she hasn't even given birth to her first child yet.
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Old 04-29-2019, 01:50 PM
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I think they would have induced or done a C-section if she were a week overdue.


Why? In the UK they don’t induce until 42 weeks. That is the NICE guidelines. I was 37 and 39 when I had my children and 42 weeks applied to me.
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Old 04-29-2019, 03:00 PM
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Ok folks, it's that time to put the final bet in. Will Baby Sussex make it in April or will he be a May baby? One more day and we shall find out!

I can personally testify that born at 42 weeks is perfectly fine...and headstrong. I wasn't going to make an appearance until I was ready. Let's see if Baby Sussex is as headstrong.

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Why? In the UK they don’t induce until 42 weeks. That is the NICE guidelines. I was 37 and 39 when I had my children and 42 weeks applied to me.
I think some have said that some doctors won't let geriatric mothers go beyond a week. Honestly, at this point, I'd want to be induced if I were her. I had a friend who managed to convince the doctor to induce her a few days before her due date. She was just over being pregnant at that point.
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Old 04-29-2019, 03:06 PM
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Ok folks, it's that time to put the final bet in. Will Baby Sussex make it in April or will he be a May baby? One more day and we shall find out!

I can personally testify that born in 42 weeks can be perfectly fine...and headstrong. I wasn't going to make an appearance until I was ready. Let's see if Baby Sussex is as headstrong.
I'm still up for April 30th, but baby Sussex has already made a liar out of me, so who knows. If I don't hear anything by midday tomorrow, then my next bet is going to be for May 3rd or 5th.
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I'm still up for April 30th, but baby Sussex has already made a liar out of me, so who knows. If I don't hear anything by midday tomorrow, then my next bet is going to be for May 3rd or 5th.
Well, I have my entire afternoon blocked with meetings tomorrow, so maybe that'll be when the labor announcement comes. Although, Baby Sussex has managed to avoid any conflict in my schedule so far.
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