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Old 01-28-2019, 03:00 PM
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Agreed entirely. She's getting commentary on it because she does it so frequently and in such a deliberate way that it can become distracting. The biggest case in point, for me anyway, being at the fashion awards. She looked fabulous, she said lovely and wonderful things about CWK, it was a lovely evening with a very praise-worthy look and then come the images of her hugging this bump on both top and bottom, elbows straight out to the sides in an almost defensive stance, appearing for all the world to be putting the bump on show in a "look at me and please notice my bump" kind of way and then wonders why there's eyerolls from a lot of quarters.

I'd give any pregnant woman a pass on clasping their hands together under the bump while they're waiting to speak because, you know, what else do you do with your hands when you're not holding a microphone or a purse, even in resting both hands on top of a large bump when sitting because again, a natural pose and the hands gotta go somewhere. But the very deliberate, constant "make sure you see that I'm pregnant" way that it comes across sometimes can get old and distracting and is unprofessional. I can't imagine someone doing that in my office, especially during an important presentation or introduction, and it not being raised as an issue. It really does depend on the situation and circumstances but that one at the fashion awards particularly stood out for me as unprofessional because the night wasn't about her, it was about CWK, and the showcasing distracted from the real focus of the event, especially in the press. When the press about the evening should have been about CWK and her award and even about how wonderful Meghan looked and the very genuine and kind words she spoke, it was instead all about this one picture, this one pose, this one moment where she very deliberately framed the bump in an almost maternity photo shoot kind of way.
A subsequent video from the fashion award showed that she slightly winced before putting her hand there. It's not surprising that with the amount of noise and such surrounding them, the baby would be very active.

We've also seen the video of her at the retirement home where it was very obvious the baby was moving and then she moved her hand to her belly. So before we call a pregnant woman unprofessional for touching her pregnant belly, perhaps people should understand that there are other things at play.

I also think it's odd to accuse a pregnant woman who attention seeking when she moves her coat out of her way. There is enough things there already. If you are going to try to see where you are going or swat down, it's more than natural.

I've also seen videos where she briefly touched her belly, to a point where if someone next to me did it, I wouldn't even notice. Yet when it's captured in a photo, it seems as if that's all she's doing. And that becomes the narrative rather than reality.

BTW, I feel like this is becoming the new Huggy Wuggy narrative. She's affectionate. That's just the way it is. People got worked up and mocked her because she hugged children on walkabouts. I guess now she has to be mocked for touching her own unborn child.
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Some people believe, and are backed up by some experts, that the cradling releases oxytocin, which benefits both mother and baby. How can that be wrong? Meghan’s not taking pictures of herself, so those who don’t like the sight of a pregnant woman doing something which comes naturally, and is beneficial, don’t look at the pictures. This is silly and borderline cruel.

And Meghan doesn’t need to do anything to attract attention to herself. We’re all looking at her regardless, right?

Royal (and non pregnant) men fiddle with their cuff links and their tie bars.
And their watch bands. Women, if you are pregnant, cradle your bump or not; whatever feels right to you is what you should do.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:17 PM
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There is literally a video of Meghan wincing right before she held her stomach at the awards show. It was posted in this very thread and news articles with such headlines like “See the moment Meghan felt a kick” were over the internet. So I fail to see how her reacting or holding her stomach is attention seeking. People truly see what they want and that goes for all so called “sides”.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:18 PM
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There is literally a video of Meghan wincing right before she held her stomach at the awards show. It was posted in this very thread and news articles with such headlines like ďSee the moment Meghan felt a kickĒ were over the internet. So I fail to see how her reacting or holding her stomach is attention seeking. People truly see what they want and that goes for all so called ďsidesĒ.
There is a difference between responding to a kick and posing.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:24 PM
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There is a difference between responding to a kick and posing.
How is it posing if she's putting her hand where her baby just kicked? Especially if he/she is moving around a bit? That video clearly showed that she moved her hand there after she winced. Her attention was on CWK.
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So Meghan should stop her soothing behavior because it might strike someone as posing, or otherwise annoy some members of the public?

And even if she were consciously posing for some purpose, what difference does it make? Her pictures will be in the papers pretty much every time she ventures out for years to come, posing or not.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:55 PM
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So Meghan should stop her soothing behavior because it might strike someone as posing, or otherwise annoy some members of the public?

And even if she were consciously posing for some purpose, what difference does it make? Her pictures will be in the papers pretty much every time she ventures out for years to come, posing or not.
Agree. This is such a trivial matter and it's becoming pretty ridiculous IMO. People seem to try and find a way to analyse every little behaviour and action from the royals but there are bigger problems to worry about!
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Old 01-28-2019, 04:08 PM
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There is a difference between responding to a kick and posing.
And what is it when the conversation is about her response to a kick? You have no idea what she doing. And to be fair nor do I. None of us do but we do know we have seen Meghan physical react to the babyís movement. I see no issue with a mother soothing herself and her child. I donít care if a camera is around. Meghan canít help that part. Her sneezing is headline news.
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:32 PM
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Iím not quite sure how fault can be found with someone cradling their baby. It is a baby, not a bump. And surely itís much better to see enthusiasm over a pregnancy than not? I sincerely hope a woman is allowed to celebrate both her pregnancy and her work and not feel shame for either. I really donít see how her behavior is attention seeking or distracting for the work she does.
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Old 01-28-2019, 10:44 PM
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Agreed entirely. She's getting commentary on it because she does it so frequently and in such a deliberate way that it can become distracting. The biggest case in point, for me anyway, being at the fashion awards. She looked fabulous, she said lovely and wonderful things about CWK, it was a lovely evening with a very praise-worthy look and then come the images of her hugging this bump on both top and bottom, elbows straight out to the sides in an almost defensive stance, appearing for all the world to be putting the bump on show in a "look at me and please notice my bump" kind of way and then wonders why there's eyerolls from a lot of quarters.

I'd give any pregnant woman a pass on clasping their hands together under the bump while they're waiting to speak because, you know, what else do you do with your hands when you're not holding a microphone or a purse, even in resting both hands on top of a large bump when sitting because again, a natural pose and the hands gotta go somewhere. But the very deliberate, constant "make sure you see that I'm pregnant" way that it comes across sometimes can get old and distracting and is unprofessional. I can't imagine someone doing that in my office, especially during an important presentation or introduction, and it not being raised as an issue. It really does depend on the situation and circumstances but that one at the fashion awards particularly stood out for me as unprofessional because the night wasn't about her, it was about CWK, and the showcasing distracted from the real focus of the event, especially in the press. When the press about the evening should have been about CWK and her award and even about how wonderful Meghan looked and the very genuine and kind words she spoke, it was instead all about this one picture, this one pose, this one moment where she very deliberately framed the bump in an almost maternity photo shoot kind of way.
I'm sorry, but are you really saying, that in your office they monitor how and when pregnant women touch their baby bumps? Are you really calling Meghan unprofessional, when she touches her bump?

Imho again, this is nitpicky. It seems like whatever Meghan does or doesn't do, it will always be picked apart.

I'm personally 100% sure, that there are not one royal aide or anyone in the know, who would think to even suggest that Meghan touching her bump needs to be monitored, or would call it unprofessional.

It might be best Meghan push her bump to her back, this way the pump and her touching it wouldn't distract anyone.
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Old 01-29-2019, 02:17 AM
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It could be much, much worse. Instead of cradling her child, she could be picking her nose.
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A number of off-topic comments have been deleted. Let’s move on from the discussion about Meghan touching her bump.
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Old 01-29-2019, 12:07 PM
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Never mind letís look at the positive: Meghan Markle and Prince Harry will 'shun hiring a nanny' in favour of granny Doria
https://www.independent.ie/style/cel...-37757331.html
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Old 01-29-2019, 12:09 PM
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Very unlikely that they will shun having a nanny or try to use Doria as a nanny
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Old 01-29-2019, 12:18 PM
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Exactly!

Doria has her own life and interests. Although I suspect like most new grandmothers including Carole Middleton, she will spend some extra time with the new mum and baby helping them adjust. And than she will pop in and out.

I also can't imagine them not having a nanny. That would be mean that one of them will have to be with the child 24/7 like most new parents...so how will they do their duties?
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Old 01-29-2019, 12:26 PM
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Plus Carole is in a financial position to spend as much time as she likes with her grandchildren. I believe Doria is working full time so that’s not an option.
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Old 01-29-2019, 03:04 PM
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Plus Carole is in a financial position to spend as much time as she likes with her grandchildren. I believe Doria is working full time so thatís not an option.

Furthermore, Carole doesn't live in another continent as Doria does.
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Old 01-29-2019, 03:15 PM
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Possbily Doria will move to the UK, Meghan is her only child... and its a logn way away….
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Old 01-29-2019, 03:23 PM
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Let's not speculate not speculate on if Doria is going to move to UK. She certainly hasn't shown any interest. I believe one of the stories from the wedding is that someone asked her if she was going to stay a little longer after the wedding, her response was that no, she has to get back to her job and dogs. Not every parent wants to give up everything and move to wherever their child is. Even if they are close. They all lead their own lives. Obviously the Sussexes can more than afford to fly mom over anytime to visit, but Doria has her own social circles and daily life in LA.
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Old 01-29-2019, 03:34 PM
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Plus Carole is in a financial position to spend as much time as she likes with her grandchildren. I believe Doria is working full time so that’s not an option.
We haven’t a clue what her financial position/options are and shouldn’t even be discussing that here.

I’m more concerned and hopeful Meghan has a successful full term pregnancy and continues to ignore the intense nastiness directed at her. She is entitled to have close loyal family visit/support her during pregnancy and afterwards as often as the others if she so desires. Period.
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