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10-16-2018, 06:20 AM
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Why do you think the official announcement didn't say anything about the Queen or Prince Charles being delighted with the news or some sort of similar statement like for the Cambridges? I find it odd.
I've read that there was pressure form KP to delay the announcement till after the Australian tour. I wonder if there was some tension about it. She doesn't even really show so I think they could have postponed it if they wanted to, and at the same time leave the attention on Princess Eugenie for a few more days. This said, I'm positive the immediate family are thrilled with the news.
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10-16-2018, 07:24 AM
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Why would Eugenie and Jack need more dsys of attention. Their tour started today, so after a wedding on Friday with the weekend to share official pictures and have the newspapwrs etc recap what happened on Friday, I don't see why announcing on Monday wouldn't be appropriate. Postponing until right after the wedding imo was the right thing.
I am sure the Australians, New Zealanders and others they meet on this tour are happy that they didn't feel the need to return to the UK before announcing. They've made it clear the Comonwealth was important to them, so sharing this news while visiting other Commonwealth countries seems perfect timing.
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Why do they have to “leave the attention on Princess Eugenie for a few more days”? Or, do Eugenie and Jack need such attention? They had completed the ceremony and reception, supposedly are enjoying their honeymoon, why would they need “attention”?
I don't think they can hide it until the tour ends. Even she doesn't really show at the moment (which I don't agree. Are you telling me that her belly is showing in some photo just because she ate too much?), she will show during the tour as it is half month long, her belly will grow quickly.
Honestly I don't see any problem about the timing. Announce it after Eugenie and Jack's wedding is enough. They are not taking the “spotlight” from anyone.
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10-16-2018, 08:22 AM
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Why do you think the official announcement didn't say anything about the Queen or Prince Charles being delighted with the news or some sort of similar statement like for the Cambridges? I find it odd.
I've read that there was pressure form KP to delay the announcement till after the Australian tour. I wonder if there was some tension about it. She doesn't even really show so I think they could have postponed it if they wanted to, and at the same time leave the attention on Princess Eugenie for a few more days. This said, I'm positive the immediate family are thrilled with the news.
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at least have facts straight. The announcement did say the Queen, Duke of Edinburgh, Prince of Wales and so on are delighted for them. Princess Eugenie had her day, and the attention was over anyway as the Sussexes start this tour. The royal household likely knew that as the wedding photos were rolled out promptly. And have you seen the photos from the first day of the tour? No way would it have gone unnoticed. It’s quite obvious why she wore that coat at the wedding. No way she would’ve made it through this tour without getting slammed with is she or isn’t she discussions. She’s already had her 12 week scan before the wedding, and is rumored to be as far along as 15 weeks, it’s more than adequate and reasonable to announce now. Especially given they had to make some arrangements in the schedule for her condition in Fiji and Tonga.
ETA: They likely actually delayed this announcement due to Eugenie's wedding. It would've been far easier if they could've announced slightly more ahead of the tour rather than announcing on foreign soil. However, that was pretty much the only option they had given the wedding. Can you imagine the attention on her at the wedding had they announced in the weeks leading up to the wedding?
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10-16-2018, 08:55 AM
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Last night Meghan met Missy Higgins and her baby Luna. It seems in conversation that Meghan revealed she was 4 MONTHS pregnant. So closer to 16 weeks after all.
Here is her post - https://www.instagram.com/p/Bo_Z79vnbgL/
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10-16-2018, 09:02 AM
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if shes 15 weeks..that means she is do in the first half of april...interesting i saw usweekly report her to be 15 weeks along..her bestie must've slipped that to that reporter omid...i wasn't going to believe that until i heard out of her own mouth
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10-16-2018, 09:05 AM
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Haha you could tell he was taken aback and thinking to himself:''Wait, what? Did we announce?''
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10-16-2018, 09:17 AM
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Wow, you were lucky! I am short waisted like Maghan and although I was slender I was wearing loose clothing from twelve to fourteen weeks on in all three pregnancies. Wearing anything tight and I looked like an overstuffed sausage!
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Yes, it really depends on your build, height and baby size how you show. And, the baby can come a few weeks early and still be full term or late, usually they won’t let you go more than a couple weeks late. We know she’s 12 weeks for sure. All this minute speculation veers into really personal territory. Let’s just hope things go smoothly. Another thing we know for sure is that she is an elderly primagravida, a woman having her first baby after age 35. Much more common nowadays and wonderful she conceived so quickly.
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10-16-2018, 09:24 AM
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My very best to Megs, Hazza and the sprog to be :)
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10-16-2018, 09:32 AM
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if shes 15 weeks..that means she is do in the first half of april...interesting i saw usweekly report her to be 15 weeks along..her bestie must've slipped that to that reporter omid...i wasn't going to believe that until i heard out of her own mouth
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Nothing has been confirmed, nor will it be. The only thing we'll get down the line is approximately when she's due (the month, but not the date). We should warn that while US Weekly claims sources, there are often times where they've been wrong about Meghan. Although I supposed there can be some kind of guessing based on the way she's showing.
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The timing of the announcement and the way it was worded actually is quite perfect.
A lot has been said that this tour is going to be a very busy one for Harry and Meghan. Just looking at their itinerary makes me a bit dizzy. Even in the easiest of pregnancies, a woman never knows just how she's going to feel from one day to the next and I don't think Meghan will be any different. Announcing the pregnancy puts into place a reason why should Meghan suddenly have to drop out of an event or take precautions doing something.
Also, having this pregnancy out in the open and established as fact will cut down on the speculations in the media and hopefully put more emphasis on where they are and what they are doing. Its impossible to curb the reporting on Meg's fashions (heck, I've been drawn into her fashions and I'm not that big of a fashionista kind of person).
Announcing it at the beginning of the tour draws the people she's going to meet and greet into a more personal perspective as now, the way I see it, those people Down Under have something extra special to remember about this visit. It also gives us a couple of weeks to watch and observe two very happy people about to have their first child and anyone that has ever followed Harry or Meghan or both *knows* this couple is one that do not hide what they're feeling.
No one is surprised at this pregnancy at all. It pretty much was a given that this couple would start a family as soon as they possibly could. Its a major goal that drew the two of them together. Anyone that has watched Harry at all with children can see his rapport with them and he's even wistfully said in interviews how badly he wanted his own home and family life.
If there's any animosity about how the announcement has been made by anybody be it Eugenie and Jack, the families or Aunt Gertrude's pet cockatoo, I am 99.9% sure its media constructed for headlines and not actual credible fact. No one is over the moon more than Harry and Meghan about this but I do think the rest of the world is also in a very happy orbit for them.
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at least have facts straight. The announcement did say the Queen, Duke of Edinburgh, Prince of Wales and so on are delighted for them. Princess Eugenie had her day, and the attention was over anyway as the Sussexes start this tour. The royal household likely knew that as the wedding photos were rolled out promptly. And have you seen the photos from the first day of the tour? No way would it have gone unnoticed. It’s quite obvious why she wore that coat at the wedding. No way she would’ve made it through this tour without getting slammed with is she or isn’t she discussions. She’s already had her 12 week scan before the wedding, and is rumored to be as far along as 15 weeks, it’s more than adequate and reasonable to announce now. Especially given they had to make some arrangements in the schedule for her condition in Fiji and Tonga.
ETA: They likely actually delayed this announcement due to Eugenie's wedding. It would've been far easier if they could've announced slightly more ahead of the tour rather than announcing on foreign soil. However, that was pretty much the only option they had given the wedding. Can you imagine the attention on her at the wedding had they announced in the weeks leading up to the wedding?
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1) I think I have the facts straight:
"Their Royal Highnesses The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are very pleased to announce that The Duchess of Sussex is expecting a baby in the Spring of 2019.
Their Royal Highnesses have appreciated all of the support they have received from people around the world since their wedding in May and are delighted to be able to share this happy news with the public."
Form: https://www.royal.uk/duke-and-duches...expecting-baby
If there was another Press Release I'm not aware of, please, send me a link. Thank you.
2) Weekly magazines covering the wedding have not come out, yet. I'm sure articles/covers will be changed last minute. Princess Eugenie's wedding was a great success and I believe it is in the interest of the entire Royal Family to make sure it remains in the news a bit longer if possible. Have you noticed how much the causes she champions have been mentioned and talked about in the past few days? I think it's important.
3) I have seen the pictures from their first day of the tour and honestly, I haven't seen anything much different than this https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_...put-quality=90
or this https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/...65bc829df4ccc0
This of course may change in a week.
4) I do agree that announcing it before Princess Eugenie would have been worse. I just think that they could have waited a few more days.
5) The coat the Duchess wore at Princess Eugenie's wedding was completely unnecessary. Let's be honest about that.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/10...9670551018.jpg
This said, I'm sure they felt more comfortable announcing it now. It would be easier if she had to drop out of a commitment to let the public know why.
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Looking at Meghan from a side view and comparing her side by side from several months ago, it is obvious. The coat was necessary imo.
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I was confused too, until I looked back and caught up with the conversation. I believe Chloep is referencing 'baby hairs' in the sense of new growth hair at Meghan's hairline which comes in frizzier if you miss hair-straightening treatments or touch-ups.
Having curly hair is not strictly an African-American thing. 'African-American, black, white,' etc are just man-made labels in any case. The point is that when you become pregnant, you have to consider being careful with using harsh chemicals, as well as watching what you eat and being overall careful in general because you have to consider the baby's health. Here's more down low on pregnancy and taking precautions regarding hair-straightening treatments:
https://ninenaturals.com/blogs/news/...ring-pregnancy
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Now that you mentioned it, I vaguely remember being concerned in the beginning about getting a relaxer. It’ll be interesting to see what she does during her pregnancy. I remember reading that her hair is a lot straighter than it used to be because she’s straighten it so much. I thought she does blowouts now though
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1) I think I have the facts straight:
"Their Royal Highnesses The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are very pleased to announce that The Duchess of Sussex is expecting a baby in the Spring of 2019.
Their Royal Highnesses have appreciated all of the support they have received from people around the world since their wedding in May and are delighted to be able to share this happy news with the public."
Form: https://www.royal.uk/duke-and-duches...expecting-baby
If there was another Press Release I'm not aware of, please, send me a link. Thank you.
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I think there was a second statement. I’m not sure if it was on Twitter or on the website but it mentioned the family in that one. I’m not sure. They could have just consolidated the messages lol.
I agree with you that she’s not really showing much. I think she’s probably closer to 12-14 weeks. I am short-waisted and showed a little earlier than most. She’s just barely showing. It’s probably more bloating than anything like someone above mentioned.
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Why do you think the official announcement didn't say anything about the Queen or Prince Charles being delighted with the news or some sort of similar statement like for the Cambridges? I find it odd.
I've read that there was pressure form KP to delay the announcement till after the Australian tour. I wonder if there was some tension about it. She doesn't even really show so I think they could have postponed it if they wanted to, and at the same time leave the attention on Princess Eugenie for a few more days. This said, I'm positive the immediate family are thrilled with the news.
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If the Duchess is really 12 or even 14 weeks pregnant as rumored, I don't see why she only told the family on Eugenie's wedding day. Afterwards, I agree there was no need or reason "to leave the attention on Princess Eugenie for a few more days", but announcing to the family on the wedding day looks very insensitive to me, especially when she could easily have done it before.
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Imagine a universe where an over-the-moon in love couple enjoy a fabulous wedding weekend and another over-the-moon in love newlywed couple are expecting and announce it publicly at the beginning of a working tour while the first couple are off on honeymoon days.
We live in that universe. Blessings abound and weddings and tours are precision events planned by man. Babies arriving is a bit fuzzier area but I think the BRF tag-teamed the wedding and baby announcements seamlessly.
Having said that----it was a given that a two week tour to Australia with Harry and Meghan was going to draw more press attention than the York wedding. Very famous Brit with his famous American bride who has been covered non-stop for over two years vs a lovely but much lower profile appealing young couple who's most scandalous family interaction is from the bride's loving parents.
Looking forward to the arrival of the sweet Sussex baby!!!!
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Even in the easiest of pregnancies, a woman never knows just how she's going to feel from one day to the next and I don't think Meghan will be any different. Announcing the pregnancy puts into place a reason why should Meghan suddenly have to drop out of an event or take precautions doing something.
Also, having this pregnancy out in the open and established as fact will cut down on the speculations in the media and hopefully put more emphasis on where they are and what they are doing. Its impossible to curb the reporting on Meg's fashions (heck, I've been drawn into her fashions and I'm not that big of a fashionista kind of person).
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Good points!
Where does that "announcing to the family on the wedding day" come from? What I have read is the members congratulate them during the wedding.
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1) I think I have the facts straight:
"Their Royal Highnesses The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are very pleased to announce that The Duchess of Sussex is expecting a baby in the Spring of 2019.
Their Royal Highnesses have appreciated all of the support they have received from people around the world since their wedding in May and are delighted to be able to share this happy news with the public."
Form: https://www.royal.uk/duke-and-duches...expecting-baby
If there was another Press Release I'm not aware of, please, send me a link. Thank you.
2) Weekly magazines covering the wedding have not come out, yet. I'm sure articles/covers will be changed last minute. Princess Eugenie's wedding was a great success and I believe it is in the interest of the entire Royal Family to make sure it remains in the news a bit longer if possible. Have you noticed how much the causes she champions have been mentioned and talked about in the past few days? I think it's important.
3) I have seen the pictures from their first day of the tour and honestly, I haven't seen anything much different than this https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_...put-quality=90
or this https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/...65bc829df4ccc0
This of course may change in a week.
4) I do agree that announcing it before Princess Eugenie would have been worse. I just think that they could have waited a few more days.
5) The coat the Duchess wore at Princess Eugenie's wedding was completely unnecessary. Let's be honest about that.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/10...9670551018.jpg
This said, I'm sure they felt more comfortable announcing it now. It would be easier if she had to drop out of a commitment to let the public know why.
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No, you don't have the facts straight:
1. An extended statement was released, and was shared widely in media outlets about the members of royal family and Doria and their feeling on the pregnancy.
“The Queen, Duke of Edinburgh, Prince of Wales, Duchess of Cornwall, and Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are delighted for the couple and were able to congratulate them on Friday at the wedding in person,” said the statement.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/meghan...ticles&via=rss
2. I'm not sure which weekly magazines do you mean? All the Sunday papers have run, if they are going to run the front cover for Eugenie's wedding. If they didn't, that's already done too. If you are talking about People and US Weekly, they won't. Simply because these are US based magazines, and there isn't much interest in US. They didn't even run any covers with Eugenie during the entire time she was engaged. Not even a little side on the cover. Hello is still doing a special edition. So nothing got eclipsed. Like I said earlier, the attention on the wedding is over regardless if they are pregnant or not.
3. The photos you chose are particularly misleading. You used photos from before that is at the most unflattering angle and a lot more close up to a photo where you can't see much of her sideways and further away, which is the angle where her bump is most obvious. Someone has already posted a side by side from similar angles, and it is more than obvious something is going on there. She also has 15 more days to go, which could lead to a lot more changes at this stage in her pregnancy. Regardless, the rule is to announce after 12 weeks. While we don't have official word on exactly how far along she was, we know she's had her 12 week scan, and based on how fast they had to leave UK after the wedding, it's definitely before the wedding even if we don't know how far ahead exactly. There is no reason why they should have to wait anymore. With any such announcements, you want to get ahead of the story, not wait and wait and wait and refuse to comment while the reporters are banging on your door. That's why most announcement will come right around 12 weeks.
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If the Duchess is really 12 or even 14 weeks pregnant as rumored, I don't see why she only told the family on Eugenie's wedding day. Afterwards, I agree there was no need or reason "to leave the attention on Princess Eugenie for a few more days", but announcing to the family on the wedding day looks very insensitive to me, especially when she could easily have done it before.
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Quite frankly I don't believe they only told the family at the wedding. I think that is tabloid drama and the family was told earlier. Some extended family members may have heard the news at the wedding but I don't think there was an actual announcement. That would have been all over the media given the twitter addiction of some of the wedding guests.
There was no way to wait any longer in announcing it, speculation would have been through the roof on this tour. Meghan has looked different for at least a month now.
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3. The photos you chose are particularly misleading. You used photos from before that is at the most unflattering angle and a lot more close up to a photo where you can't see much of her sideways and further away, which is the angle where her bump is most obvious. Someone has already posted a side by side from similar angles, and it is more than obvious something is going on there. She also has 15 more days to go, which could lead to a lot more changes at this stage in her pregnancy. Regardless, the rule is to announce after 12 weeks. While we don't have official word on exactly how far along she was, we know she's had her 12 week scan, and based on how fast they had to leave UK after the wedding, it's definitely before the wedding even if we don't know how far ahead exactly. There is no reason why they should have to wait anymore. With any such announcements, you want to get ahead of the story, not wait and wait and wait and refuse to comment while the reporters are banging on your door. That's why most announcement will come right around 12 weeks.
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It was Pranter that posted those photos but they got deleted I think from the fashion thread since they were actual photos. I wish she'd post the link to them. They were good illustrations.
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I think that those closest to Meghan and Harry knew of the pregnancy long before the announcement or revealing of the pregnancy at the wedding reception.
Receptions are celebrations and a chance for an entire family to be in one place all at the same time. Great time to let people know of an impending birth. Charles and Camilla and the Cambridges may have known for weeks but family like Anne's branch probably heard it first at the reception. I would even imagine that Harry and Meghan informed Eugenie and Jack first before a general announcement was made to the guests or they just quietly informed family members in general conversations. We don't know the details actually.
It didn't steal anybody's thunder. In my eyes, all it could have done was make the celebrations even more joyous. Happy news does that to people. It isn't a big deal and any big deal or "shocking revelation" most likely are all media exaggerations.
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