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05-05-2019, 11:17 AM
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Congrats to Harry and Meghan!
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05-05-2019, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by muriel
I agree, the brief "stop&wave" outside the hospital would have been a relatively painless event, but to quote, if this is what Meghan wants, this is what Meghan gets! 
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Originally Posted by jacqui24
Out of curiosity? Have you given birth to know what it feels like hours after birth? Everyone I know who has given birth has never said it is painless by that point. In fact, quite opposite. She’s literally going to be ripped apart from inside out.
And again, let’s try not to go straight to blaming the woman. There are two people’s wants and decision in play here. What evidence are there that it’s just what Meghan wants and not what Harry wants?
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Perhaps you did not notice that I had not suggested the act of giving birth was going to be painless. Only that the brief "stop&wave" outside the hospital would have been a relatively painless event. I have stated it many times that the couple are entitled to make their own choice in this regard, it really is not the end of the world at all.
However, with the clumsily worded statement concerning the desire to keep the arrangements around the birth private and the "Operational Notes", what H&M have clearly demonstrated is that their fledgling office has a lot to learn.
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05-05-2019, 12:05 PM
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I don't understand why people are so inpatient.
Could very well be that the duchess'due date is April 30th. She would be only 5 days late. It will still take 9 days before doctors will induce.
Give her the chance to have a natural home-birth!!!
April 30th would very well make sense with the only information Meghan herself gave us (a birth for the end of April/beginning of May
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05-05-2019, 12:36 PM
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She said late April, not last day of April. Anything after April 30 is late April. So of course people have been on count down for weeks now. If you don't want to be, tune out until you hear the news.
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05-05-2019, 01:02 PM
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She said late April/Early May.
For me, early May ends on May 7th. Up to which she has up to 2 weeks after.
So anytime between May 7th-21st.
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05-05-2019, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Alisa
She said late April/Early May.
For me, early May ends on May 7th. Up to which she has up to 2 weeks after.
So anytime between May 7th-21st.
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She gave a due date of a period between April 21-May 5. Logically she was taking into account a baby could come early or late. If her due date was May 7 she would never had said she was due 'late April'. To suggest she could go to May 21st is beyond belief.
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05-05-2019, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ACO
Walking out a hospital to wave (likely in pain) at hundreds of cameras and a screaming public vs a quiet private setting with one camera?
I’ll pick option B.
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Diana talked about the photo call situation when they left the hospital...she said she could feel her stitches tearing and the moment they were around the corner out of sight of the cameras she was crying.
I'd not want to experience that either.
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05-05-2019, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudolph
Meghan's way isn't 'better'. Let's be honest, if Meghan decided on the Lindo Wing you all would say it's the best decision in the world.
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Whatever she decided it would be the best decision for HER. It doesn't really matter what I think.
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05-05-2019, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Countessmeout
She gave a due date of a period between April 21-May 5. Logically she was taking into account a baby could come early or late. If her due date was May 7 she would never had said she was due 'late April'. To suggest she could go to May 21st is beyond belief.
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When did she give dates. She said late April or early May from what I heard on the video.
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05-05-2019, 01:44 PM
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Each woman is different and each delivery is different. One thing I know is that I would never have made it out the door so fast after giving birth. I especially appreciate too that I didn't leave so soon after delivery because then I could rest and recoup (with breakfast in bed) and best of all, get intimate with my new son/daughter. Just the two of us after Daddy was sent home. That time is precious.
All things in good time. I just hope for a easy and safe delivery and two very happy, ecstatic parents welcoming their much awaited and longed for first child. They *should* be able to create their own little, private bubble and totally embrace the newness of being a family.
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05-05-2019, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Countessmeout
She gave a due date of a period between April 21-May 5. Logically she was taking into account a baby could come early or late. If her due date was May 7 she would never had said she was due 'late April'. To suggest she could go to May 21st is beyond belief.
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"Logically " ? I think you are making an assumption.
No date was given. Even one's definition of "late April/Early May" is subjective. Meghan never said she was due somewhere between April 21st and May 5th. That is simply your interpretation.
Keep in mind that when a woman is "due" or a due date is an exact date- 40 weeks or 280 days after a woman's last menstrual period. Unless Meghan and Harry did IVF it is impossible to be 100% certain of that date.
So turning 40 weeks between late April and early may certainly does not mean she took into account the child could come 2 weeks early or 2 weeks late.
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05-05-2019, 01:49 PM
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Well there's one thing I'm certain about in all this & it's that I couldn't bear to have my body & menstrual cycle picked over in public. Birth is such an intense & personal event (especially the 1st) that I don't believe any woman's duty is to share more than she wants to. The fact that some of the press are annoyed at their perceived lack of access is incredible & a marker of how ridiculous & intrusive some royal coverage is becoming. It's about time it was rolled back to include more privacy & personal choice in control of the coverage. The Queen wouldn't have given this level of information in a million years & I know we're in a different era but any royal woman who wants to pull it back a bit has my support & understanding.
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05-05-2019, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Osipi
Each woman is different and each delivery is different. One thing I know is that I would never have made it out the door so fast after giving birth. I especially appreciate too that I didn't leave so soon after delivery because then I could rest and recoup (with breakfast in bed) and best of all, get intimate with my new son/daughter. Just the two of us after Daddy was sent home. That time is precious.
All things in good time. I just hope for a easy and safe delivery and two very happy, ecstatic parents welcoming their much awaited and longed for first child. They *should* be able to create their own little, private bubble and totally embrace the newness of being a family. 
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Every delivery is different. I gave birth at 6:50pm after a labour induced at 7am that morning. I drove home with the baby at 11pm that night. I certainly had discomfort but not enough to medicate it.
Assuming that Meghan will be "torn apart" makes no more sense than assuming that she'll be 100% fine. It really feels like there's such a need to defend Meghan's decision that people are prepared to throw other mothers who've chosen a hospital photocall under the bus. Why can't we just accept that Meghan made the right decision for her (with whatever consequences that leads to) without having to assert that this is the best decision in general?
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05-05-2019, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Lilyflo
Well there's one thing I'm certain about in all this & it's that I couldn't bear to have my body & menstrual cycle picked over in public. Birth is such an intense & personal event (especially the 1st) that I don't believe any woman's duty is to share more than she wants to. The fact that some of the press are annoyed at their perceived lack of access is incredible & a marker of how ridiculous & intrusive some royal coverage is becoming. It's about time it was rolled back to include more privacy & personal choice in control of the coverage. The Queen wouldn't have given this level of information in a million years & I know we're in a different era but any royal woman who wants to pull it back a bit has my support & understanding.
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Preach it! Some of these breakfast shows saying “the public owns baby” has been incredible to hear. The entitlement is through the roof. No we don’t own this baby. And honestly I’m glad the Sussexes doing what’s good for them.
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05-05-2019, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Pranter
When did she give dates. She said late April or early May from what I heard on the video.
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Exactly, she said late April, which is any time after April 20th.
The poster I was responding to suggested her due date is as late as May 7th. If she was due May 7th, she wouldn't have made the comment of late April. The suggestion she could go until 21st of May without being past the place where a doctor would induce, is beyond a push.
The question really isn't if she is over due. Its how much she is over due at this point.
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05-05-2019, 02:35 PM
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Yeah,the public entitlement is incredible.
Imagine the reverse situation, where an heir to the throne refuses to marry or have babies.

How would british public reacted if that was the case? I mean, the Queen has plenty of grandkids and cousins.
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05-05-2019, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by solinka
Yeah,the public entitlement is incredible.
Imagine the reverse situation, where an heir to the throne refuses to marry or have babies.

How would british public reacted if that was the case? I mean, the Queen has plenty of grandkids and cousins.
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There are over 1000 people in the line of succession to the British throne , so. i’d Assume it wouldn’t matter .
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05-05-2019, 02:43 PM
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I don't think any of us should be bad mouthing the press for their stories when you read some of the stuff on here. You don't need to by a newspaper, magazine or watch a news programme. Poor Meghans body function s are being discussed all over this. The baby will come soon enough with our without a wee nudge.
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05-05-2019, 02:45 PM
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It's only since the birth of Prince William in 1982 that the idea of the new Royal mum appearing freshly made up and blown out less than 24 hours after labor and delivery became "tradition".
Before that it was mostly unheard of in Royal circles, so by refusing to do it, it is Meghan who is reverting to tradition.
Diana and Kate were marvels of nature for doing that so well but I don't fault ANY woman Royal or not for refusing to commit to such a thing.
What if she had a grueling ordeal and is exhausted and unwell? What if she is too emotional?
Is it really so bad to just announce the birth and sex of the newborn and release a few photos later...like it used to be in Britain and still is in other monarchies?
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05-05-2019, 03:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Countessmeout
She said late April, not last day of April. Anything after April 30 is late April. So of course people have been on count down for weeks now. If you don't want to be, tune out until you hear the news.
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I never said that she mentioned April 30th as her due date. I took it as example.
April 30th is one of the days of the period between late April and the beginning of May.
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