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Old 05-03-2019, 06:31 PM
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I understand what you're saying, but I don't look at this like a photoshoot. It's the same concept as the Lindo Wing, but more controlled. It's just one photog, one reporter and one camera. It's similar to what the continental Europeans do. I distinctly remember Carl Phillip and Sofia releasing those beautiful images of Alexander, and there was a brief interview.

I know it's not for everyone, but I prefer this controlled environment rather than the chaos that the Lindo Wing has become. Also have to remember, there are extenuating circumstances regarding the LW. It's open to the public, and we know Megs have some very media hungry family members that would probably turn up to cause problem.

Also, the press are the ones making a nuisance of themselves as they already had all of the information but chose to release it in a certain way.
Nobody is saying she should...well I am ot. I am saying. Take a picture of your baby and release it and do not do anything else.

They are not European Royalty and media access is 300 times more controlled.

In going more low key...they have gone in the other direction. It is like the difference between some telling you they have news and then refusing to tell you and someone not telling you until they need to. It hasn't been handled well. They need their communications team to do a number because I don't know the attitude from the media, and increasingly people on the street, generally is one of: we pay for their lifestyle, all we want is a picture of the baby because actually most people believe the baby,is born and that is a public opinions mess.
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Old 05-03-2019, 06:37 PM
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Nobody is saying she should...well I am ot. I am saying. Take a picture of your baby and release it and do not do anything else.

They are not European Royalty and media access is 300 times more controlled.

In going more low key...they have gone in the other direction. It is like the difference between some telling you they have news and then refusing to tell you and someone not telling you until they need to. It hasn't been handled well. They need their communications team to do a number because I don't know the attitude from the media, and increasingly people on the street, generally is one of: we pay for their lifestyle, all we want is a picture of the baby because actually most people believe the baby,is born and that is a public opinions mess.
You are absolutely wrong on the feeling of the people on the street. An vast majority supports them on this decision according to the latest YouGov poll. Some are miffed, but that’s a small minority at 13%. But other than that, the press will not be happy with just a photo released. They are as upset as it is. They aren’t telling people they have news and then refuse to sharing it. They are sharing it. There is very little difference to the Cambridge children than the fact that they won’t share the specific birthing plans like the location. The exact time this baby will come is beyond their control. They’ll notified the press once she goes into labor. If they want to wait in Windsor right now, that’s between them and their bosses. They’re very clear on what they will and will not share. There is no false illusion here.

As for low key, this is about as low key as they can get. The fact of the matter is there are a lot of interest in this couple globally. Perhaps more so than almost any other royal couple right now. And the birth of their child is of interest to people, so the media will report on it. And as working royals, they walk a fine line between keeping something for themselves and wanting to thank the people for the love and support. And I think the way they are going about it is a great compromise.
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Old 05-03-2019, 06:44 PM
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They will be happy because ultimately we all panic and mouth off and then someone shoves a cute, healthy baby picture in your face and everyone loves them. The media want a story...and that is it.

It's been misjudged. It's like, someone panicked and told them to release that statement and it was the worst mistake in the world. They could have said: they have chosen to keep the location private but appreciate your kid thoughts at this time and literally say nothing else and have let it play out. It just got everyone's knickers in a twist and a change to spit bile for a month. Utterly lacking in tact.
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Old 05-03-2019, 06:48 PM
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You are absolutely wrong on the feeling of the people on the street. An vast majority supports them on this decision according to the latest YouGov poll. Some are miffed, but thatís a small minority at 13%. But other than that, the press will not be happy with just a photo released. They are as upset as it is. They arenít telling people they have news and then refuse to sharing it. They are sharing it. There is very little difference to the Cambridge children than the fact that they wonít share the specific birthing plans like the location. The exact time this baby will come is beyond their control. Theyíll notified the press once she goes into labor. If they want to wait in Windsor right now, thatís between them and their bosses. Theyíre very clear on what they will and will not share. There is no false illusion here.

As for low key, this is about as low key as they can get. The fact of the matter is there are a lot of interest in this couple globally. Perhaps more so than almost any other royal couple right now. And the birth of their child is of interest to people, so the media will report on it. And as working royals, they walk a fine line between keeping something for themselves and wanting to thank the people for the love and support. And I think the way they are going about it is a great compromise.
Because a poll that did not predict Brexit is better then actual life experience. Trust people are a bit sneery right now because actually the media have convinced the baby is here. Which is what is being said on radio and things and no one really reports the fact that BP has denied this.
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Old 05-03-2019, 07:00 PM
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I’ve seen many royal correspondents from all over asking people on the streets how they feel and majority agree with the Sussexes. So I can’t say I’m seeing this jeering. I even saw Carole Malone ranting and she made a pool which was again overwhelming in favor of the Sussexes’s decision. I don’t think most care, they just want to know the baby is healthy and here.
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Old 05-03-2019, 07:04 PM
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I donít think most care, they just want to know the baby is healthy and here.
Exactly so why give the media the bile to run a month of stories. But you chat with people and there is laughing, joking and sneering about them playing 'us' for a fool. Which is a direct result,of thr media having a month worth of bile spitting propaganda.
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Old 05-03-2019, 07:18 PM
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I have refrained from guessing on due dates because frankly I am really bad at that sort of thing. Since Baby Sussex has missed my niece's birthday on May 1, he or she has another chance with my nephew's birthday on the 5th. The one thing I am fairly certain is we won't have to wait until my grandmother's or my dad's birthdays. Grandma was born on May 30th and Dad was born on May 31! I will admit to imaging the press reaction if things went that long - makes for a good laugh though.
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Old 05-03-2019, 07:20 PM
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Officially May 4th. Will it be today? I'm so excited!!!
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Nobody is saying she should...well I am ot. I am saying. Take a picture of your baby and release it and do not do anything else.

They are not European Royalty and media access is 300 times more controlled.

In going more low key...they have gone in the other direction. It is like the difference between some telling you they have news and then refusing to tell you and someone not telling you until they need to. It hasn't been handled well. They need their communications team to do a number because I don't know the attitude from the media, and increasingly people on the street, generally is one of: we pay for their lifestyle, all we want is a picture of the baby because actually most people believe the baby,is born and that is a public opinions mess.
I do not believe “most people” believe the baby is already born. Conspiracy theorists, the anti-Meghan brigade and those who refuse to accept the difference between private and secret can believe nonsense.
It was mostly handled fine, some are disgruntled because they don’t get to stand in a horde of hundreds of other press to take photos or video footage. But that whole scene outside Lindo is crazy and a security nightmare.
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Old 05-03-2019, 07:56 PM
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Exactly so why give the media the bile to run a month of stories. But you chat with people and there is laughing, joking and sneering about them playing 'us' for a fool. Which is a direct result,of thr media having a month worth of bile spitting propaganda.
Month? Meghan said the baby was due late April or early May. We are still in that time frame. If people wanted to disbelieve her own words, well, thatís on them.
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Old 05-03-2019, 07:58 PM
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That is not entirely true as Harry's child, if he is a boy, will probably become HRH Prince xxx of Sussex eventually and, later, HRH The Duke of Sussex. If it is a girl, she will eventually become HRH Princess xxx of Sussex. I don't think King Charles III (or George VII) will keep Harry's children as Earl of Dumbarton or Lady xx Mountbatten-Windsor.



Harry's children will be in a similar position to Beatrice and Eugenie and, when George is King, they will be in a similar position to that of the Kents and the Gloucesters today.
Yes, exactly, the same position as the Yorks. Thanks for making my point

Does Eugenie get half the attention that Harry does? No. Likely not even 1/4. Even though she is a HRH. If Harry and Eugenie shared a birthday, do you think Eugenie would get more then an honorable mention in press? No.

The fact is that no matter what title this baby ends up with, it will always be second fiddle to their cousins who are right in line for the throne.


And again my point, even if they were Charlotte Doe and John Smith living in some village, very few kids like sharing a birthday. Its your day to shine. Sharing it with an adult relative is one thing, as birthdays for adults usually aren't a big deal, sharing it with another kid is another matter. Means you will likely have to share every birthday party, every cake and so on.


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I have refrained from guessing on due dates because frankly I am really bad at that sort of thing. Since Baby Sussex has missed my niece's birthday on May 1, he or she has another chance with my nephew's birthday on the 5th. The one thing I am fairly certain is we won't have to wait until my grandmother's or my dad's birthdays. Grandma was born on May 30th and Dad was born on May 31! I will admit to imaging the press reaction if things went that long - makes for a good laugh though.
May have a coronary or two on hand from the media if lasted that long.

The conspiracy theories would go nuts as well. Its already insane how many think the baby is weeks old.
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Old 05-03-2019, 08:26 PM
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Exactly so why give the media the bile to run a month of stories. But you chat with people and there is laughing, joking and sneering about them playing 'us' for a fool. Which is a direct result,of thr media having a month worth of bile spitting propaganda.
Maybe I am missing something but what "bile" are they giving them? Meghan said she was due late April or early May. That is literally right now. She told them the truth. That is not on her they assumed she lied or they thought on the earlier side.

They also said they would announce when she is in labour. So again... all the info will be given to them. They not stringing them along. There is no info to give as the baby is still inside of her. Not sure what you expect Meghan to do about that.

All we can do is wait. If people mad she still pregnant well then tough...
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Old 05-03-2019, 08:42 PM
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Maybe I am missing something but what "bile" are they giving them? Meghan said she was due late April or early May. That is literally right now. She told them the truth. That is not on her they assumed she lied or they thought on the earlier side.

They also said they would announce when she is in labour. So again... all the info will be given to them. They not stringing them along. There is no info to give as the baby is still inside of her. Not sure what you expect Meghan to do about that.

All we can do is wait. If people mad she still pregnant well then tough...
I don't think people are mad. Some of us thought wrong (including myself) that the baby would be born in the end of March. That's almost two months waiting. We're all very excited but we're also very "tired". We just want to hear good news and see the new bundle of joy.
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Old 05-03-2019, 08:43 PM
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The choir that sung Stand by Me at the Sussexes' wedding wrote and recorded a lullaby for the baby


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...t-lullaby/amp/

A little positivity here.
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Old 05-03-2019, 08:47 PM
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The choir that sung Stand by Me at the Sussexes' wedding wrote and recorded a lullaby for the baby


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...t-lullaby/amp/

A little positivity here.
Now that is super sweet and will have so much meaning for the Sussex family through the years.
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The choir that sung Stand by Me at the Sussexes' wedding wrote and recorded a lullaby for the baby


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...t-lullaby/amp/

A little positivity here.
Now that is sweet. And something for them to hold on to as well
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The choir that sung Stand by Me at the Sussexes' wedding wrote and recorded a lullaby for the baby


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...t-lullaby/amp/

A little positivity here.
What a lovely and meaningful gift.
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Old 05-03-2019, 11:53 PM
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I don't think people are mad. Some of us thought wrong (including myself) that the baby would be born in the end of March. That's almost two months waiting. We're all very excited but we're also very "tired". We just want to hear good news and see the new bundle of joy.
Speaking as a mother whose child came 11 days after their supposed due date; the child will come when he/she is ready and not when the public and press wants. Meghan said she was due around this time. We just need to be patient and ignore the press as they have made it not fun.
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Sorry if this has already been posted but the Daily Beast points out that the arrangements made for the baby's birth have been favourably received by the vast majority of the British public in a YouGov poll while only 12% disagreed. So much for the dissenters in the media!

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-pu...-birth-private
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My guess is that 'once they have had an opportunity to celebrate privately as a new family' means 'once they have arrived home', so there is less chance of reporters showing up at the (unknown) hospital. Once home, I don't think there is much reason to keep it a secret any longer; they clearly want to avoid having lots of reporters at the hospital (or other place of birth) when Meghan is in labor; so in this way they both can inform the public relatively quickly but still avoid facing the photographers at the day (or day after) of birth..
That's the thing - we're guessing here.

And my guess is that "once they have had an opportunity to celebrate privately as a new family" means they'll at some point say "hey, we had a baby a week ago, be happy for us!" and according to that statement, both versions are equally probable.

I'm not saying what they're doing is wrong, just that the statement should be written to clear things up and not confuse people further and make wild guesses. Just... be specific, it's easy.
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