Harry and Chelsy: Relationship Musings - Page 44

segolen · #**861** 06-23-2010, 08:47 PM

I believe it wasn't a break up "over the phone ". Most likely it happened before Harry's trip to Africa. According to this, Chelsy is hiding her emotions as well, not only the members of the royal family.

georgiea · #**862** 06-23-2010, 09:50 PM

I just don't believe two people who broke up recently would look that good in public. I don't think they are broke up-I am going with my gut on this.

Sister Morphine · #**863** 06-23-2010, 10:20 PM

Sometimes when you break up with someone, it can manifest a sense of a relief. Perhaps there were issues, perhaps they just came to realize that the direction they both were headed wasn't the same. When Madeleine and Jonas broke off their engagement, she was out socializing with friends, gallivanting around the US......doesn't mean she wasn't hurt by the break-up, just that perhaps seeing what kind of man he really was, the decision to end the engagement might have been easy to make and she was glad that it was over.

You can't judge anything from a picture.

georgiea · #**864** 06-23-2010, 10:34 PM

I remember Princess Madeline was devastated and her photos show her unhappy. There was also talk of her not finishing her engagements in America. I don't know if she did. Also, that she was going to not attend some of the wedding events, but she did. So you can see things from a photo.

Sister Morphine · #**865** 06-23-2010, 10:44 PM

I said you can't judge things from a photo. There's a difference between seeing something and interpreting something. I can look at a picture of a woman standing on a street corner smiling, but that's all I see. I don't know why she's smiling. Maybe she won the lottery. Maybe she just got a job after being unemployed for several years. Maybe she just found out she's having a baby. Maybe she just killed a cheating lover. Who knows. The point is, just that picture alone doesn't tell the whole story, other than a woman is standing on the corner smiling.

georgiea · #**866** 06-23-2010, 10:58 PM

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I said you can't judge things from a photo.

No you can not judge most of the time from photos. But Princess Madeleine in her photos from America looked devastated and then we had reports on her dealing with the break up. Princess Diana and Prince Charles in the 1990's started to show in photos their dissatisfaction with each other. So Sister Morphine even the royals show sometimes their feeling in photos.

I think we have to disagree to agree in what a person judges from a photo.

I am going with my gut feeling and it is not over with Prince Henry and Ms. Davies.

CrownPrincess5 · #**867** 06-24-2010, 12:28 AM

You know whats funny to me? Reading some of the posters comments on how in love Harry and Chelsy are. My question is "how in the world do you know how in love they are?" I'm sorry but pictures can lie...

We do not know their feelings for one another. To me it seems like Harry likes her a lot, but I don't see Harry being head-over-heels in love with her! I think if we quit being so biased we would see that.

I don't know much about their relationship but I do know that Harry lives in England and Chelsy lives in SA...that sounds like a long distance relationship to me. I know from experience that long-distance relationship do not work. They "can" work but it takes a whole lot of effort, and I mean a whole lot of effort, on both parties.

I read an article today in which William said how free-spirited Harry is. Will said when Harry wants to do something he puts his whole heart in it. Maybe Harry's "whole heart" isn't in the relationship. He does seem enamored with Sentebale. Chelsy on the other hand is so work driven. She's at the time in her life where she wants something for herself. She probably wants to be known as Chelsy Davy not Harrys girlfriend.

Bottom line, their both really young. I don't feel sad for either of them because I'm sure in the future they'll both find somebody they truly love and care about and will jump over hurdles to be with them.

Mermaid1962 · #**868** 06-24-2010, 01:10 AM

Exactly. This relationship has always seemed dramatic and volatile to me. Harry strikes me as a man who's passionate about whatever he does, and he might need a woman who's as passionate about common interests as he is.

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Bottom line, their both really young. I don't feel sad for either of them because I'm sure in the future they'll both find somebody they truly love and care about and will jump over hurdles to be with them.[/QUOTE]

georgiea · #**869** 06-24-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CrownPrincess5

You know whats funny to me? Reading some of the posters comments on how in love Harry and Chelsy are. My question is "how in the world do you know how in love they are?" I'm sorry but pictures can lie...

People can hide their feelings in photos. But I mention in earlier post some situations when royal feelings came across in photos. I am voicing my opinion and others can voice theirs. We can agree to disagree. We don't know for sure if Prince Henry and Ms. Davies have split. I just think we have not heard the end to this couple's relationship.

CrownPrincess5 · #**870** 06-24-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by georgiea

People can hide their feelings in photos. But I mention in earlier post some situations when royal feelings came across in photos. I am voicing my opinion and others can voice theirs. We can agree to disagree. We don't know for sure if Prince Henry and Ms. Davies have split. I just think we have not heard the end to this couple's relationship.

No, I wasn't disagreeing with what you were saying.
I was talking about the posters who think they are absolutely sure about the situation. They look at a photo and think the couple is so in love, but photos can lie. A couple can "look" in love on a photo, but behind closed doors they could be far from love. Like what you said about Madeleine. A lot of people saw a girl partying, but I too saw the hurt on her face. Hope I explained it right

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georgiea · #**871** 06-24-2010, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CrownPrincess5

No, I wasn't disagreeing with what you were saying.
I was talking about the posters who think they are absolutely sure about the situation. They look at a photo and think the couple is so in love, but photos can lie. A couple can "look" in love on a photo, but behind closed doors they could be far from love. Like what you said about Madeleine. A lot of people saw a girl partying, but I too saw the hurt on her face. Hope I explained it right

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I understand now CrownPrincess, sorry.

Prince Henry and Ms Davies have been in a fairly close relationship since she moved to the UK. I think they lived together over the weekends. If they really broke up in the last few weeks they are both great actors in the recent photos. But there can be many different scenarios to the relationship and only they know what comes next.

Sereta · #**872** 06-24-2010, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mermaid1962

Exactly. This relationship has always seemed dramatic and volatile to me.

What are you basing this statement on?

segolen · #**873** 06-24-2010, 07:56 PM

they don't really look like a couple who just broke up

Prince Harry makes time for Chelsy Davy during his official tour of Africa | Mail Online

SarahMay · #**874** 06-24-2010, 09:57 PM

I didn't believe they had broken up.

The breakup was denied by several in the press almost immediately after News of The World reported it.

Mermaid1962 · #**875** 06-24-2010, 11:40 PM

There have been three highly publicized breakups, although this last one seems to not have happened after all. It seems, at least from media reports, that she gets upset with him over his situations with other girls, or because he can't put her ahead of his career and his duties. Chelsy was visibly upset with Harry when he didn't meet her at the airport when she landed in England on one occasion. It seems like Chelsy gets upset with Harry and they break up. Harry seems to be the one who does the running all the time. Perhaps this is just tabloid guess-work, but something like this happens to them on what seems like a regular basis. I have the sense that there's a lot of passion in this relationship but perhaps not a huge amount of staying power. I could be wrong; but this is how things appear to me.

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What are you basing this statement on?

rmay286 · #**876** 06-25-2010, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by georgiea

I remember Princess Madeline was devastated and her photos show her unhappy. There was also talk of her not finishing her engagements in America. I don't know if she did. Also, that she was going to not attend some of the wedding events, but she did. So you can see things from a photo.

I agree that you can tell things from photos. Even the royal family, as professional as they have to be, can look strained at times. Charles didn't look so happy during the time of his marriage break-up, for example. Based on Harry looking quite cheerful (plus the recent Daily Mail article) I'd say that Chelsy and Harry haven't split.

I don't think, unfortunately, that they will ever marry, but I do think Harry and Chelsy will be together for a few years yet until one of them decides they want a family (probably Chelsy, since time runs out on that faster for women). As a prince, Harry isn't supposed to have children until he is married, and I just don't think Chelsy has any interest in marrying a royal. In fact, I think Harry would also be happy with an anonymous career in the military and then a life in Africa. But Harry will never get that, and as a result, his life is ultimately going to take him in a different direction from Chelsy.

I find it sad, because any couple who has been together for 6 years obviously cares a lot for each other. The other sad thing is that Harry and Chelsy will probably stay together as long as they can, which will make the break-up all the harder in the end. Harry and Chelsy have spent a lot of their youth and young adulthood together, and those memories and the what-ifs will probably be there for the rest of their lives, even if they do eventually split up for good.

Lumutqueen · #**877** 06-25-2010, 03:20 AM

I knew they wouldn'y have broken up, like I said, the papers were having a slow news day.

Idriel · #**878** 06-25-2010, 06:24 AM

I am also confused as to why people are always saying that they are never going to last, their relationship is too unstable, etc. Often, those are the same people making wedding plans for Will and Kate.

H&C have been dating for 6 years (same length as W&K), they have reportedly broken up twice, with the second break up more serious than the first one (same as W&K), they have been in a long distance relationship for the majority of their time together and have managed to survive this (a feat in itself), they publicly show affection and love for each other and have obvious chemistry and complimentary body language.
Yes, they have fights, like any couples, but how is getting upset to be stood up at an airport with 20 paps harassing you while you wait a sign of instability? Wouldn't you be?

If anything, these two seem the more solid and loving couple and actually seem to be together for the right reasons (i.e., because they are madly in love with each other, not because it's a convenient relationship or because they're too lazy, paranoid or scared to try and meet somebody new).

I think people who say this the relationship is volatile just hope it is because they don't really like the idea of Chelsy as a permanent addition to the BRF.
Imo, if that relationship doesn't last the distance, it won't be because of lack of love or stability, but because of Chelsy's professional ambitions and disinterest in becoming a royal.

rmay286 · #**879** 06-25-2010, 11:59 AM

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Imo, if that relationship doesn't last the distance, it won't be because of lack of love or stability, but because of Chelsy's professional ambitions and disinterest in becoming a royal.

I think so too. Chelsy doesn't seem like she is being groomed for royal life or giving up any of her own ambitions to prepare for a life as a princess, so I have to conclude that she isn't at all interested in becoming royal. Since Harry is royal, I don't see how their relationship can then last the distance. However, I do agree that between Harry's army career/Chelsy's home in Africa, they've had a long distance relationship for most of the time--yet somehow they've made their relationship work for 6 years. That takes effort and commitment. So I think there must be a real connection between them as well as commitment. Maybe their relationship won't last the distance, but I also don't think it will be because of lack of love or stability.

Iluvbertie · #**880** 06-25-2010, 06:09 PM

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I think so too. Chelsy doesn't seem like she is being groomed for royal life or giving up any of her own ambitions to prepare for a life as a princess, so I have to conclude that she isn't at all interested in becoming royal. Since Harry is royal, I don't see how their relationship can then last the distance. However, I do agree that between Harry's army career/Chelsy's home in Africa, they've had a long distance relationship for most of the time--yet somehow they've made their relationship work for 6 years. That takes effort and commitment. So I think there must be a real connection between them as well as commitment. Maybe their relationship won't last the distance, but I also don't think it will be because of lack of love or stability.

Let's not forget that Chelsy did move to England to be closer to Harry and to attend Leeds university. She certainly has tried living in England and that shows commitment on her part to make the relationship work and that she knows that Harry really can't leave Britain due to his position including but not exclusively due to his rank as a Councillor of State. In order to hold that position he must live in the UK and be a British citizen. So until there are 4 adults in line of succession over 21 ahead of him it isn't a simple matter of deciding to live in another country - there are legal considerations as well.