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06-21-2010, 09:35 PM
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Both William and Harry could die with out heirs and there would still be someone to sit on the throne. It’s best for someone to wait to have kids until they are truly ready for them, does not always happen but the best path to take.
What with aid of fertility treatments now a days and women having babies in mid to late 30's, 40’s and even some in their 50’s. I don’t think they have to worry as much as they might in say days gone by. More and more women are having baby’s what one would call late in life. Prince Victoria who just got married she's 32 (will be 33 next month) and the Swedish line of succession is far shorter then the British one. I think the boys are wise not to jump into marriage or fatherhood.
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06-21-2010, 10:19 PM
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Even the Earl and Countess of Wessex have two children despite marrying later in life and having fertility problems. The fact that they were not under any pressure to get married and pop out heirs might have something to do with why they have the longest-lasting marriage of any of the Queen's children.
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06-22-2010, 01:09 PM
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Now there are reports that the two have not split and that she is going to practice law in SA while Harry finishes his training... I hope this is the true report ...
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06-22-2010, 02:04 PM
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hope so. In reality, she has nothing to do in England, while waiting for Harry. If they want to see each other, while he is off his duty, they can fly and meet in SA or UK or anywhere else The distance could be " very small" when someone has the money . And I also believe, if she wants to land up a good job, is not better place for that than SA. Probably her father has more connections there then in the UK
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06-22-2010, 02:11 PM
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Yes, I agree I think if she landed a great job in UK all we would hear is how she used BRF to get it... but in SA it is better all children use their parents for jobs..
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06-22-2010, 03:14 PM
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^I think if she stayed in the UK she would get some criticism but most of it would just be baseless and would not ultimately stick.
People keep bringing up Sophie as a example why royal consorts can't hold jobs but I find this argument to be weak.
Sophie was in the PR business, a profession where your work tools are your rolodex and your connections. It's all about 'who you know'. So of course she was using her Royal connections (and got rightfully criticised for it), that's what her whole business was about.
But Chelsy is in a profession where you are judged based on skills, not connections. She got her qualifications because she worked hard and did well at all her exams. And in her profession she will never win cases by name-dropping. The royal clout might open some doors for her but she'll be on her own from that point on.
She isn't a criminal lawyer either so is very unlikely to get into very controversial situations (like having to defend a pedophile, for example).
Imo, it's not a problem for royal girlfriends and consorts to hold jobs as long as those are jobs where you build a career based on objective skills.
PR was clearly unsuitable, but business law is perfectly fine.
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06-22-2010, 03:36 PM
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good points.... great examples ....
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06-22-2010, 10:20 PM
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It seems that Chelsy wants to do something productive with her life, rather than just sit around doing nothing, waiting for Harry to propose. I admire her for that
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06-22-2010, 10:34 PM
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06-22-2010, 10:36 PM
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Well, it sucks they broke up but if it wasn't meant to be and it wasn't going anywhere, better find that out now than after a wedding and a couple kids. Now they both have the opportunity to do what they want, and pursue other interests. No harm in that. I wish them both the best.
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06-22-2010, 11:42 PM
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very sad
I think it has been a real struggle for Chelsy, and I feel very sorry for her and Harry, because Harry must feel like crap.... I mean, she hates the publicity and having people recognize her as his girlfriend, because she wants to build a career in law that is based on her abilities. It's perfectly understandable that she feels like that. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be much better in SA. Is she going to work in CT? Isn't it considerably smaller than London? And there are people in CT who probably have known her through her family for her whole life. I'm sure she is every bit as much "Harry's girl" in CT as in London.
Besides, if she is committed to her work and studies, it won't matter. People will see beyond the "Harry's girl" facade quickly if she is genuinely committed and accomplished in her work. She can't work around this. She just has to deal with it. It's not going away.
I am sad for Harry too. I'm sure he wishes he could be someone else or do something else in order to be with Chelsy. It's been obvious how much they love each other for some time now. Why else did they return to each other after breaking up before? Why did they stay together and try to make it work despite their aggravations with the media? It's because they fell in love. You don't just get over a love like theirs overnight.
If Harry truly loves her and doesn't want to lose her, I guess he should propose. But........ he could propose, but.... would she accept? Would she choose her prince or her career?
I wish she would choose him. But..... I doubt I have a vote.....
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06-23-2010, 12:28 AM
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It takes a special kind of woman to put up with the baggage that comes with royalty. Especially someone who is as widely recognized as Harry. If it really is over between them I'm sure they'll be great friends in the future and hopefully they find someone that will make incandescently happy.
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06-23-2010, 02:13 PM
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according to most of the articles, Chelsy split with Harry because, Harry will not propose to her before his brother does and she is tired of the wait. And according to the same news sources, William will propose soon to Kate, therefore, Harry can propose as well after his brother does and Chelsy doesn't have to wait as long. It makes no sense. The reason for their split must be something else....and of course, those are all speculation of the paparazzi
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06-23-2010, 02:22 PM
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I've read nothing like that.
I'll i've read is that Chelsy wants to go home.
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06-23-2010, 02:39 PM
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Stories such as these are far more juicier than stories of her wanting to build a career. And I hope all goes well. You don't work your butt off in law school to never use your degree. Can't say I really blame her.
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06-23-2010, 04:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by segolen
according to most of the articles, Chelsy split with Harry because, Harry will not propose to her before his brother does and she is tired of the wait. And according to the same news sources, William will propose soon to Kate, therefore, Harry can propose as well after his brother does and Chelsy doesn't have to wait as long. It makes no sense. The reason for their split must be something else....and of course, those are all speculation of the paparazzi
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Can you post some links to these articles as all I have read is that she wants to live in SA and have here career and Harry's future is in Britain and the army.
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06-23-2010, 07:32 PM
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Yes, I agree I think if she landed a great job in UK all we would hear is how she used BRF to get it... but in SA it is better all children use their parents for jobs..
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Why should she need any connections to get a job? She has a good education and seems like a smart girl. I don't see why she couldn't get a job on her own.
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06-23-2010, 08:30 PM
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Quote:
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I've read nothing like that.
I'll i've read is that Chelsy wants to go home.
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here is the article, you can read it :)
Why Prince Harry and Chelsy Davy Really Split | PopEater.com
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06-23-2010, 08:36 PM
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Just an observation. Prince Henry is smiling in all photos of him since the suppose breakup. So either he is a good actor like his mother, Princess Diana of Wales was and other Spencer relatives or there is no breakup. I think there is no breakup, but maybe a change in plan for Ms. Davies. They had a long distance relationship before. Why not again until the Prince makes up his mind to marry.
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06-23-2010, 08:41 PM
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I think that, if there has indeed been a break-up, it has been over something major. Members of the RF are very good at covering up their emotions in public. They only things that they're "allowed" to weep over are deaths of close family members. And even then, they're not apt to show much emotion when cameras are around. I think that it's engrained into them that they have to be "up" for all engagements and do the job regardless of how they feel.
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