Harry and Chelsy: Relationship Musings - Page 2

PadThaiPrincess · #21 03-09-2008, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcarroll-royal

Yes, Harry is the kind that would do what his heart tells him first and then what his brain tells him later!

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he was telling Granny what he'd done with the new Princess Chelsy.

lyndaW · #22 03-10-2008, 05:18 PM

As long as the Queen & Prince Philip have anything to say about it the wedding will be in England. However, I have no idea what Camilla (the future Queen) may do or should I say convince Charles to do. I really do thaink that the Queen Prince Phillips & Charles just want Harry to be settled and happy. However he may have to compromise 6-months in England, 6months in Africa (not bad).
Just please-------------------someone help Chelsy with her clothes and ditch the fake plastic jewelry

branchg · #23 03-10-2008, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PadThaiPrincess

Thanks to everyone who answered my questions. Does anyone think Prince Harry would actually run off with Chelsy if it came to that?

I doubt he's that rebellious. The price would be the loss of his royal rank and title and Parliament acting to remove him from the line of succession. There is no way the Government will entertain consenting to a marriage.

mcarroll-royal · #24 03-13-2008, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by branchg

I doubt he's that rebellious. The price would be the loss of his royal rank and title and Parliament acting to remove him from the line of succession. There is no way the Government will entertain consenting to a marriage.

They consented to Camilla - a divorcee?

sirhon11234 · #25 03-13-2008, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PadThaiPrincess

Thanks to everyone who answered my questions. Does anyone think Prince Harry would actually run off with Chelsy if it came to that?

I hope to god he doesen't.

kimebear · #26 03-13-2008, 05:17 PM

I don't think they would have to run off. There is nothing wrong with Chelsy apart from a little roughness around the edges that is only apparent in royal circles. She comes from a wealthy family, is a good student and apparently discreet. If she makes Harry happy, there will probably be no problem with her joining the RF.

jspate · #27 03-13-2008, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimebear

I don't think they would have to run off. There is nothing wrong with Chelsy apart from a little roughness around the edges that is only apparent in royal circles. She comes from a wealthy family, is a good student and apparently discreet. If she makes Harry happy, there will probably be no problem with her joining the RF.

I agree. I dont see anything wrong with Chelsy. She may not be the perfect candidate but I dont see a problem with the Royal Family accepting her.

Mermaid1962 · #28 03-14-2008, 12:04 AM

As a person, she might be acceptable. But I can see the government of the UK having a problem with a Royal bride who's father made a fortune from collaborating with a despot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspate

I agree. I dont see anything wrong with Chelsy. She may not be the perfect candidate but I dont see a problem with the Royal Family accepting her.

Mermaid1962 · #29 03-14-2008, 12:04 AM

*whose* My mistake.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mermaid1962

As a person, she might be acceptable. But I can see the government of the UK having a problem with a Royal bride who's father made a fortune from collaborating with a despot.

kimebear · #30 03-14-2008, 12:46 AM

They may not like it, but in the end they most likely won't do anything about it. If Harry has the Queen's permission, then that's that. Perhaps the government would step in if it was William, but its not. It's very unfair to paint Chelsy with her father's brush. She can't help who he is. He also hasn't been proven to be guilty of anything. It is all merely speculation and inuendo at this point.

Having a father who has been associated with a corrupt politician didn't hurt Princess Maxima of The Netherlands. She has been a great asset to the Dutch RF and, from all accounts, the people seem to love her.

Mermaid1962 · #31 03-14-2008, 04:01 PM

True. However, she did have the heartbreak of not having her father at the wedding.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimebear

Having a father who has been associated with a corrupt politician didn't hurt Princess Maxima of The Netherlands. She has been a great asset to the Dutch RF and, from all accounts, the people seem to love her.

kimebear · #32 03-14-2008, 05:37 PM

Yes. I felt very bad for her personally. But there are sacrifices to be made when you join a royal family. Politically, it was the right choice at the time. Perhaps Chelsy would be asked to do the same, although I think it unlikely. I doubt wedding plans would get far if that issue isn't clarified first.

PadThaiPrincess · #33 03-14-2008, 05:49 PM

Chelsy's got big to haute couture shoes to fill following Princess Diana. She's naturally a very pretty young lady and with a bit of polish she'll make a fine princess if Prince Harry chooses to make her one.

branchg · #34 03-14-2008, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimebear

They may not like it, but in the end they most likely won't do anything about it. If Harry has the Queen's permission, then that's that.

The Queen cannot grant consent without taking advice from the Prime Minister as Harry remains third in-line to the throne at the present time. If the Government has no objection, everything will be fine. If they do object (which I think would be the case), Harry will face the same choice Princess Margaret did.

It would be more likely to be accepted if he waited until William married first and had an heir.

kimebear · #35 03-14-2008, 07:10 PM

I don't agree. Times have changed. The main objection to Peter Townsend at the time of his relationship with Princess Margaret was his status as a divorcee. If the Queen and the government consented to the marriage between Charles and Camilla, Charles being the next in line to the throne, they would be unlikely to object to Chelsy because of a relationship that her father may/may not have with Mugabe. I think they may be getting the point that royal marriages should take place for love as well as for maintaining the status quo. You have Margaret, being denied marriage to Peter, so she marries Tony Armstrong Jones and they wind up divorced anyway. Charles being advised not to marry Camilla in his youth, he marries Diana and look what a mess that was. Then he marries Camilla anyway. Harry strikes me as the type that would make Chelsy non-negotiable if he chooses to marry her. To be frank, if they made him choose between her and his title, I don't think he would waste a second choosing her.

LadyCat · #36 03-14-2008, 07:51 PM

I have to agree with Kimebear. Harry's pretty much and "all or nothing" kind of guy. If Chelsy is the one for him he won't hesitate to ditch the title and enjoy his life. However, I don't think it will come to that. Fortunately the European royals have learned to flow with the tides of change and safely arrived n the 21st century. For this they, and we, can all be grateful.

Cat

randomlyKeira · #37 03-15-2008, 06:21 PM

I think that Harry would marry Chelsy whether he had the Queen's permission or not... He isn't the kind of person that cares about royal aproval. If he wants to marry Chelsy, he'd marry her no matter what, and that applys to any woman, not only Chelsy. Harry hates the royal protocall, and all that goes along with it, he hates the titles, the demeanour, I think the only thing that the only thing he actually likes is the money

. He really wouldn't care about loosing his title, and place in the line of succession; but that wouldn't be his punishment if he married someone the Queen didn't approve of. He most likely would only be either forced to get a divorce, forced to conced his place in succesion, or be cut out of financial support.

But this is the 21st century, and I think that the Queen would undertstand that, and allow him to marry anyone he so chooses... After all, Sophie was nowhere near aristocracy or royalty (and she had a great of a step down from Chelsy's financial background), adn Sophie is teh Queen's favorite daughter-in-law. Not even to mention that Harry really is never expected to ever be the monach because he's just the spare heir, and it really doesn't matter who he marries like it does in William's case.

yvr girl · #38 03-16-2008, 10:57 AM

Harry doesn't need financial support. He was left a great sum by his mother.

Jo of Palatine · #39 03-16-2008, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mermaid1962

As a person, she might be acceptable. But I can see the government of the UK having a problem with a Royal bride who's father made a fortune from collaborating with a despot.

Harry will in all probabilty never be king. The parliament of the Netherlands agreed to a future queen whose father actually was part of a despote regime. Their policy was that you should not blame the sins of the parents on the children. I guess the same would happen in Britain.

Mermaid1962 · #40 03-17-2008, 11:37 PM

No one expected George V, George VI, and The Queen to end up as Monarchs, but they did. There's only one bullet, bomb, illness, or bad accident between Prince Harry and the throne once Prince Charles accedes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jo of Palatine

Harry will in all probabilty never be king.