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Old 03-09-2020, 07:53 AM
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DM has this on future plans

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-duties.html

Nice plan for a charity for UK & US military. I can understand the tie for Harry but Meghan never served nor has anyone in her family (although her father was of age to be drafted to serve in the Vietnam War). Her connection with the military was through her appearance in the USO tour in 2014. My mother was Navy and my niece and nephew was Army so I will watch this planned endeavor with interest.
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Old 03-09-2020, 08:05 AM
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^ About as credible as most of the Mail's tripe...
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Old 03-09-2020, 08:36 PM
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I doubt it. I can't see that their relationship is likely to be great, with Harry having walked out and left Charles struggling to find subsitutes.
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Old 03-09-2020, 08:43 PM
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I doubt it. I can't see that their relationship is likely to be great, with Harry having walked out and left Charles struggling to find subsitutes.
Seriously

The Charles who has wanted to 'slim down the monarchy'? The same Charles who 'refuses to let his nieces work for the monarchy even though they want to'? Oh yeah he is struggling really hard to find replacements isn't he? I mean his siblings, his mother's cousins, his son and Kate. I mean the poor man is seriously going to cave under the pressure of doing it all by himself


If his plans to 'slim down' don't work out, there are other royals ready and willing to step up like his nieces. He has no shortage.

If he really was so desperate for his son not to 'abandon them' he could have insisted his mother allow them to be part time royals. Or he could have threatened to cut them off all together to scare them into staying. He didn't.
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Old 03-09-2020, 08:50 PM
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Seriously

The Charles who has wanted to 'slim down the monarchy'? The same Charles who 'refuses to let his nieces work for the monarchy even though they want to'? Oh yeah he is struggling really hard to find replacements isn't he? I mean his siblings, his mother's cousins, his son and Kate. I mean the poor man is seriously going to cave under the pressure of doing it all by himself


If his plans to 'slim down' don't work out, there are other royals ready and willing to step up like his nieces. He has no shortage.

If he really was so desperate for his son not to 'abandon them' he could have insisted his mother allow them to be part time royals. Or he could have threatened to cut them off all together to scare them into staying. He didn't.
yes because he DOES want to slim down the monarchy he needs Harry. He does not want to take on cousins and nieces.. he wanted it to be his 2 sons and their wives, in due course, when the older ones retire. He is not a young man, Neither is Princess Anne. Edward is younger but hardly a youth. and the cousins are elderly. Going into the future, Charles clearly saw his sons dividing the duties between them.. and if one of them leaves, and he takes on some other relative, he will have to support that person probably for life..
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Old 03-09-2020, 09:06 PM
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yes because he DOES want to slim down the monarchy he needs Harry. He does not want to take on cousins and nieces.. he wanted it to be his 2 sons and their wives, in due course, when the older ones retire. He is not a young man, Neither is Princess Anne. Edward is younger but hardly a youth. and the cousins are elderly. Going into the future, Charles clearly saw his sons dividing the duties between them.. and if one of them leaves, and he takes on some other relative, he will have to support that person probably for life..


Or long enough for the Cambridge kids to grow up.
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Old 03-09-2020, 09:56 PM
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Seriously

The Charles who has wanted to 'slim down the monarchy'? The same Charles who 'refuses to let his nieces work for the monarchy even though they want to'? Oh yeah he is struggling really hard to find replacements isn't he? I mean his siblings, his mother's cousins, his son and Kate. I mean the poor man is seriously going to cave under the pressure of doing it all by himself


If his plans to 'slim down' don't work out, there are other royals ready and willing to step up like his nieces. He has no shortage.

If he really was so desperate for his son not to 'abandon them' he could have insisted his mother allow them to be part time royals. Or he could have threatened to cut them off all together to scare them into staying. He didn't.
Charles wanted Harry to be part of his plan, he wasn't intending to slim down THAT much. Why on earth would he insist on Harry remaining when he loves him and wants him to be happy?

What other Royals do you see ready and willing to step up? Because I don’t see this long list...
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Old 03-09-2020, 10:00 PM
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yes because he DOES want to slim down the monarchy he needs Harry. He does not want to take on cousins and nieces.. he wanted it to be his 2 sons and their wives, in due course, when the older ones retire. He is not a young man, Neither is Princess Anne. Edward is younger but hardly a youth. and the cousins are elderly. Going into the future, Charles clearly saw his sons dividing the duties between them.. and if one of them leaves, and he takes on some other relative, he will have to support that person probably for life..
This I agree with, but not your take on their relationship. Charles loves his son - ultimately he cares about him being happy even if he’s sad and disappointed that Harry has flown the coop.
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Old 03-09-2020, 10:08 PM
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Forgive me for not following their doings since they left, but an article in today’s New York Times, very unusual, regarding their last engagement had me gasping. It mentioned that the Sussexes had responded on their website that ,to paraphrase, they were being held to a higher standard than other family members who wanted to work in the private sector with their 12 month review and that they had no legal barrier to using the word royal outside Britain but would drop it anyway. WOW
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Old 03-10-2020, 01:14 AM
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They possibly all had a meal together after the service or in the days that folow.
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Old 03-10-2020, 03:12 AM
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Forgive me for not following their doings since they left, but an article in today’s New York Times, very unusual, regarding their last engagement had me gasping. It mentioned that the Sussexes had responded on their website that ,to paraphrase, they were being held to a higher standard than other family members who wanted to work in the private sector with their 12 month review and that they had no legal barrier to using the word royal outside Britain but would drop it anyway. WOW
Their website says this:

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While there is precedent for other titled members of the Royal Family to seek employment outside of the institution, for The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, a 12-month review period has been put in place.
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While there is not any jurisdiction by The Monarchy or Cabinet Office over the use of the word ‘Royal’ overseas, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex do not intend to use ‘Sussex Royal’ or any iteration of the word ‘Royal’ in any territory (either within the UK or otherwise) when the transition occurs Spring 2020.
Both of these things are true, but people will interpret this anyway they want. The UK has no jurisdiction over the word "Royal" outside the UK, that seems pretty logical to me. As is the choice the Sussexes made not to use it anywhere if they can't us it in the UK. That would be far too confusing.

Their website says nothing about a higher standard though, but people will interpret this any way they will.
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Old 03-10-2020, 04:06 AM
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I wish they will come back on royal stage in the next year, after the review has ended.
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Old 03-10-2020, 06:16 AM
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I wish they will come back on royal stage in the next year, after the review has ended.
IMO the review is in relation to the finances. If Charles is funding them just now, there is also the cost of the security then in 12 months time if the Sussex's are earning substantial sums of money these things need to be re visited.
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Old 03-10-2020, 06:16 AM
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Or long enough for the Cambridge kids to grow up.
Its hard to say. IN bygone Days, I think there was an implicit bargain that if a royal took on full time royal duties.. the King would help them out and provide a pension when they gave up or had to retire. I think if Charles DOES take on younger relatives now, he will make it clear that it is a temporary thing.. but the old style practice was that he would be commiting himself for life. And it will be probably about 20 years or more before George is old enough, has done military service and mabey taken on some kind of outside job for a time.

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They possibly all had a meal together after the service or in the days that folow.
I thought they flew back to N Amer after the service.
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Old 03-10-2020, 09:00 AM
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Both of these things are true, but people will interpret this anyway they want. The UK has no jurisdiction over the word "Royal" outside the UK, that seems pretty logical to me. As is the choice the Sussexes made not to use it anywhere if they can't us it in the UK. That would be far too confusing.

Their website says nothing about a higher standard though, but people will interpret this any way they will.
They are wrong. In many countries, including Canada, you need permission to use "Royal" as part of your brand name.
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Old 03-10-2020, 11:20 AM
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They are wrong. In many countries, including Canada, you need permission to use "Royal" as part of your brand name.
Might be, but not the UK governments consent and that is what they mean. Every country has it's own rules regarding this. I can understand they prefer to use one global name.
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Old 03-10-2020, 11:28 AM
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Let's not rehash the "royal" Discussion.
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Old 03-10-2020, 03:04 PM
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BTW I got such a Duke and Duchesse of Windsor vibe watching the video of them yesterday.
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