The Royal Forums Coat of Arms


Join The Royal Forums Today
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #321  
Old 07-29-2019, 04:29 PM
Ish's Avatar
Ish Ish is offline
Moderator Emeritus
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 4,111
Quote:
Originally Posted by sophie25 View Post
I think it was very ill-advised for Vogue to point out that she thought it would be 'boastful' to appear on the cover when Kate was on it not that long ago. It looks like a cheap shot even if it wasn't intended to be. Surely someone should have realised that wouldn't be a wise thing to say.

I think that wording may have been taken out of context; the full quote is “she felt that it would be in some ways a ‘boastful’ thing to do for this particular project.” Neither Meghan nor Vogue editor-in-chief Edward Enninful (who made the statement) are saying that it would be boastful for a woman (Meghan, Kate, or someone else) to appear on the cover of Vogue, or the cover of a magazine that they’re guest editing, just that Meghan doing so for this issue would be.

Which makes sense - if the theme is inspirational women who force change, then for Meghan to put herself on the cover it certainly would strike a boastful note. The way she’s done it, she’s instead highlighting women who inspire her - in line with the theme of the project. It’s not any criticism of Kate at all - when Kate was on the cover, it was a different project.
__________________

  #322  
Old 07-29-2019, 04:32 PM
Dman's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Midwest, United States
Posts: 15,828
Video:
British Vogue Editor-in-Chief, Edward Enninful, Interview about the Duchess of Sussex’s role as editor for Vogue’s September issue-
https://mobile.twitter.com/gma/statu...86154354503682
__________________

__________________
"WE CANNOT PRAY IN LOVE AND LIVE IN HATE AND STILL THINK WE ARE WORSHIPING GOD."

A.W. TOZER
  #323  
Old 07-29-2019, 05:01 PM
HereditaryPrincess's Avatar
Heir Apparent
Royal Blogger
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 12,386
Not too keen on the cover but it fits in with the concept and aim of her interview well. It will be an interesting read!
__________________
"For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips, speak only words of kindness; and for poise, walk with the knowledge that you are never alone". Audrey Hepburn

*
"Think of all the beauty still left around you and be happy". Anne Frank
  #324  
Old 07-29-2019, 09:25 PM
Madame Verseau's Avatar
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Louisville, United States
Posts: 1,614
Here's the response from the authors of the book with the similar covers

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffp...9fd338d939/amp

I feel uneasy about the request for Meghan to promote their book first. It comes off as "admit you copied our cover". And why aren't they coming after Vogue UK?
  #325  
Old 07-29-2019, 09:48 PM
JR76's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Malmö, Sweden
Posts: 2,891
Quote:
Originally Posted by Madame Verseau View Post
And why aren't they coming after Vogue UK?
Because going after Meghan personally means they get more attention.
  #326  
Old 07-29-2019, 10:30 PM
Osipi's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: On the west side of North up from Back, United States
Posts: 14,679
Just checking in here after a very long day and catching up on the Vogue story with Meghan as guest editor.

With being a guest editor for that edition, I think we have to realize that this project was not Meghan's work only. In journalism, the editor assigns reporters to cover the news, checks for accuracy and fairness in the newspaper's articles and writes headlines. She most likely worked behind the scenes with the selection of women to feature but also took into consideration women that others on the project suggested. Just as with the "Together" cookbook, it was a joint effort that included the Duchess of Sussex as guest editor and meshes, IMO, with the focus on women and girls empowerment that she's going to be highlighting once their foundation is established and up and running.

One thing we do know now is that even on maternity leave, Meghan is getting involved in things behind the scenes and to me, that tells me she's ready, willing and able to embrace her royal role.

All in all, I believe it is a successful venture and will be well worth the read.
__________________
No law can be sacred to me but that of my nature. Good and bad are but names very readily transferable to that or this; the only right is what is after my constitution, the only wrong what is against it.

~~~Ralph Waldo Emerson~~~
  #327  
Old 07-29-2019, 11:35 PM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Canada, Canada
Posts: 313
It will be my 1st time purchasing British Vogue. I’m really looking forward to reading the entire magazine. Just seeing the magazine cover & reading the brief excerpts, brought back such fond Tig memories.

It made me realize how much I missed Meghan’s writing for her blog. Time flies quickly, it’s hard to believe that it’s over 2 years now since I received that goodbye, but thankful email from Meghan. Now I get to enjoy her work, in her new role for another project.
  #328  
Old 07-29-2019, 11:39 PM
soapstar's Avatar
Super Moderator
Picture of the Week Coordinator
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hermosa Beach, United States
Posts: 5,475
Quote:
Originally Posted by Madame Verseau View Post
Here's the response from the authors of the book with the similar covers

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffp...9fd338d939/amp

I feel uneasy about the request for Meghan to promote their book first. It comes off as "admit you copied our cover". And why aren't they coming after Vogue UK?
Probably because Meghan put together the Vogue cover and because she wrote an essay for 'The Game Changers,' so she is aware of what their cover looks like. I do see the similarities, so I don't fault the authors for acknowledging that.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Empress Merel View Post
I can't judge the inside but after over a decade of being a fashion follower, I know a crap Vogue cover when I see one and this one belongs in that category.
I expect a bit more for the September issue, so I'm not loving the cover either. I think individual covers would have worked better. Having said that, I'm interested in seeing what's inside and reading some of the interviews.
__________________
  #329  
Old 07-30-2019, 01:05 AM
Dalriada's Avatar
Nobility
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 336
General News about the Sussex Family, Part One: May 2019 -

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudolph View Post
There’s clearly going to be some rebuttal over this.

JAN MOIR: The cause Meghan Markle is supporting is the Me, Myself and I Foundation
Yes, I agree the optics are all wrong again for the ordinary taxpayer who won’t be buying this magazine or buying into anything it is saying from many of these supermodels and glamorous foreign actresses. It appeared a worthy effort until I saw the plagiarism around the Australian ‘Game Changers’ book and now the whole venture looks naff and copied.
  #330  
Old 07-30-2019, 01:08 AM
Commoner
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Frenchs Forest, Australia
Posts: 18
I think individual covers would not have been in the theme of the women chosen being forceS of change. It is not just about one person but collective action. I really like the idea and think the cover fits that. The multiple image cover is by no means a unique concept so I'm not sure why the authors feel they are being plagiarised. They almost definitely got the idea from other magazine/book covers too. Which is totally fine.
  #331  
Old 07-30-2019, 02:03 AM
Lumutqueen's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
Royal Blogger
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Middlewich, United Kingdom
Posts: 20,878
I’ve got zero problems with Meghan guest editing, Charles, Kate and Henry have all done it and this platform makes sense.

However I do agree with Cepe on Twitter, I think it would have been a far better idea considering the choice of cover and content to be a guest editor for American Vogue. Much larger readership and it was garner a lot more attention.

For anyone that counters with the, Meghans married to Henry in the UK now. This cover & story isn’t about Meghan though is it, it’s about Forces for Change.
__________________
We Will Remember Them.
  #332  
Old 07-30-2019, 02:16 AM
Duke of Marmalade's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
TRF Author
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Frankfurt am Main, Germany
Posts: 13,638
Maybe this belongs in the roles thread but I think in the current climate people in UK want to see Meghan doing the bread & butter work and not another celebrity project. The Vogue project is something almost all royals have done one way or the other but it will certainly not improve Meghan's image at this stage.
  #333  
Old 07-30-2019, 02:37 AM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Somewhere in, United Kingdom
Posts: 1,184
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade View Post
Maybe this belongs in the roles thread but I think in the current climate people in UK want to see Meghan doing the bread & butter work and not another celebrity project. The Vogue project is something almost all royals have done one way or the other but it will certainly not improve Meghan's image at this stage.
Personally I don't think Meghan needs to improve her image, though. Jmho.

And had Meghan done the Vogue US, she would be criticized for not doing it on a UK based publication. I'm 100% sure of that.
  #334  
Old 07-30-2019, 03:14 AM
Majesty
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 6,998
I agree. I think Meghan would have come under immense criticism for not guest editing Vogue UK. I do think she is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't by some whatever project she chooses, so she may as well do something that interests and inspires her.
  #335  
Old 07-30-2019, 03:35 AM
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Glasgow, United Kingdom
Posts: 215
I have to laugh to myself because of course anything Meghan does she will be criticised for it. If Meghan did American Vogue, those same people would criticise her for using her 'Hollywood' connections and remind her she is a British royal now. So I am glad she went with British Vogue.

People are saying this is another 'celebrity' endeavor. What were the other ones? The Together Cookbook? Are the women who contributed to that are celebs? No they are women who lost everything in a tragedy and the proceeds to that book helped those women get qualifications and keep that kitchen and endeavour financially stable for the time being. People had a problem with that initiative because the people it helped were marginalised minorities. Again Meghan is accused of making it about herself despite the fact it was her idea and she only wrote the forward amongst other things.

As for the women complaining about her 'stealing' the layout of their book. Collage covers are not original but sure go off! I will be buying a copy or ten of this issue because it is not about fashion but so much more.
  #336  
Old 07-30-2019, 03:49 AM
Elenath's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Nuth, Netherlands
Posts: 778
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumutqueen View Post
I’ve got zero problems with Meghan guest editing, Charles, Kate and Henry have all done it and this platform makes sense.

However I do agree with Cepe on Twitter, I think it would have been a far better idea considering the choice of cover and content to be a guest editor for American Vogue. Much larger readership and it was garner a lot more attention.

For anyone that counters with the, Meghans married to Henry in the UK now. This cover & story isn’t about Meghan though is it, it’s about Forces for Change.


Considering the amount of criticism she gets for not wearing British clothes, what do you think would have happened if this had been printed in Vogue USA? I can already imagine the comments here not to mention the articles in the likes of the DM.
  #337  
Old 07-30-2019, 03:56 AM
Majesty
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: *******, Canada
Posts: 8,922
Quote:
The Duchess of Sussex's unabashed support for all things woke is fraught with risks. By aligning herself with the political Left, the Duchess threatens the Royal Family's neutrality
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...mpression=true

A pretty good take from the Telegraph. I think if Meghan truly wanted to be ‘inclusive’ she would have chosen people from across the political spectrum. Maybe even a few men.
  #338  
Old 07-30-2019, 04:10 AM
Lumutqueen's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
Royal Blogger
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Middlewich, United Kingdom
Posts: 20,878
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elenath View Post
Considering the amount of criticism she gets for not wearing British clothes, what do you think would have happened if this had been printed in Vogue USA? I can already imagine the comments here not to mention the articles in the likes of the DM.


She’s getting criticised now, on here and in a variety of articles (all BS as well), so what’s the difference. Might as well reach a larger audience.
__________________
We Will Remember Them.
  #339  
Old 07-30-2019, 04:12 AM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Somewhere in, United Kingdom
Posts: 1,184
I might be slow on the info pouring in, but who has had the time and energy to check on how left or not left these women are politically inclined? I mean, I didn't see one political comment from any of these women in any of the coverage. Is there some assumptions being made about "left" politics, or is any of it based on actual words said by these 15 women?
  #340  
Old 07-30-2019, 04:15 AM
MARG's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
Posts: 9,271
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalriada View Post
Yes, I agree the optics are all wrong again for the ordinary taxpayer who won’t be buying this magazine or buying into anything it is saying from many of these supermodels and glamorous foreign actresses. It appeared a worthy effort until I saw the plagiarism around the Australian ‘Game Changers’ book and now the whole venture looks naff and copied.
The term or phrase 'game changers', is as common as dirt as indeed are phrases such as ‘trail-blazing,’ ‘change-makers’ and ‘fearless women’. To claim them for oneself in the whole wide world of publishing is hubris in the extreme.

I will take the opportunity to read the edition and if it floats my boat, that's great, if it doesn't? Well, that will be my informed decision and mine alone because I am not conceited enough to think I am the arbiter of what is good or not.
__________________

__________________
MARG
"Words ought to be a little wild, for they are assaults of thoughts on the unthinking." - JM Keynes
Closed Thread

Tags
archie mountbatten-windsor, duchess of sussex, duke of sussex, meghan markle, prince harry


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 8 (0 members and 8 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Popular Tags
aristocracy armenia belgian royal belgian royal family birthday celebration charles of wales chittagong cht countess of snowdon cover-up crown prince hussein crown prince hussein's future wife cyprus denmark duchess of cambridge duchess of sussex duke & duchess of cambridge; dutch history dutch royal family dutch royals felipe vi future games germany haakon vii henry v hill house of bernadotte house of grimaldi house of orange-nassau jumma kent list of rulers lithuania lithuanian palaces mailing marriage mbs monaco christening monarchism nobel prize norwegian royal family official visit pakistan palestine popularity prince charles prince daniel prince harry princely family of monaco princess elizabeth pronunciation queen paola romanov family rown royal tour shakespeare snowdon spain spanish royal startling new evidence state visit sweden swedish history thailand tracts united kingdom unsubscribe usa videos


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:30 PM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2020
Jelsoft Enterprises
×