The Royal Forums Coat of Arms


Join The Royal Forums Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #1481  
Old 01-20-2020, 07:16 PM
soapstar's Avatar
Super Moderator
Picture of the Week Coordinator
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hermosa Beach, United States
Posts: 5,450


There is still an agreement in place. Although it’s only for certain things. Like they didn’t publish the photos of Kate from Closer and the photos of Harry in Vegas (although I believe one publication did break that agreement). There is also an agreement not to photograph William and Kate when they’re dropping off/picking up their kids from school.


Victoria Arbiter on the new photos of Meghan:

Quote:
@Victoria Arbiter
Amazing, Hugh. Pre-January 8th, photos like this never would have been allowed in the UK.
So I guess since they are no longer working royals, the UK papers are allowed to publish these type of pap photos now.
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #1482  
Old 01-20-2020, 07:18 PM
Eskimo's Avatar
Gentry
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Dallas, United States
Posts: 85
Quote:
Originally Posted by Betsypaige View Post

I can’t speak for Canada, but paparazzi in America are brutal, notorious...Real newspapers won’t cover them as in the UK, but tabloids will, and they’re shameless. Didn’t the U.K. media essentially agree not to cover William and Harry? That would never happen here in America. I remember Chelsea Clinton being mocked for being awkwardly preteen -
Given the smile, it is clear that someone does not have a problem with people taking pictures of her going about her business as a private citizen. Hypocrisy much?

This keeps getting worse. People are claiming that the pictures were taken by Splash News, an agency that celebrities call when they want to be papped for positive PR
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #1483  
Old 01-20-2020, 07:21 PM
Jacknch's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Suffolk, United Kingdom
Posts: 7,634
Quote:
Originally Posted by Countessmeout View Post
I hate the headline...not avoiding cameras

What does one expect her to do, hide away in the house she never leave heaven forbid she take her son and dog for a walk.
I totally agree - it's one thing to be photographed when out in a public space (and that element I hope is more often than not unobtrusive), the problem lies with how the photograph is portrayed as can be seen in the article.

It is good to see Meghan looking well and relaxed.
__________________
JACK
Reply With Quote
  #1484  
Old 01-20-2020, 07:29 PM
HighGoalHighDreams's Avatar
Nobility
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Unspecified, United States
Posts: 293
Yes, this will be a major change and adjustment, particularly for Harry, who has enjoyed protection from this for the greater part of his life.

Carefully brokered deals with the Palace have protected William and Harry from paparazzi intrusion for most of their lives, with small breaks. They were protected by a formal agreement from all but major stories until they were finished with their education. Then there was a brief frenzy before each entered the workforce (Harry in the army and William as a rescue pilot), where they would get mobbed and pictures would be published when they were out, mostly at night... but since they have become full-time working Royals, they have once again been allowed to go about their day-to-day lives, by and large, without being bothered. The Palace makes deals that control this very, very well.

Now all bets are off, and Harry will be in a position he has not been in for greater than a decade: the subject of uncontrolled tabloid frenzy. This makes me sad for him, and I wish him the best.
Reply With Quote
  #1485  
Old 01-20-2020, 07:48 PM
SOS SOS is offline
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Posts: 6
If Harry thought leaving the royal family would protect his family, he is mistaken. Famous celebrities like Taylor Swift or Beyoncé have no normal life. It's a whole other level than other celebrities, and I think Harry and Meghan are almost as famous as they are. Very famous celebrities rarely leave their houses. When they travel they use motorcades and private jets. Paparazzi track their private jets and follow them from the airport. If Harry and Meghan want any privacy, they should not go to Los Angeles or New York.
Reply With Quote
  #1486  
Old 01-20-2020, 07:50 PM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Atlanta, United States
Posts: 344
She looks good. Archie is a big boy. Wish I could see the pups, but I’m not giving the Sun clicks.
Reply With Quote
  #1487  
Old 01-20-2020, 07:52 PM
rominet09's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: LIEGE, Belgium
Posts: 4,394
So happy to see these pix, I shouldn't as they were taken by paparazzi but….
Reply With Quote
  #1488  
Old 01-20-2020, 08:04 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Midwest, United States
Posts: 3,557
May be total coincidence (and I hope it is), but interesting timing on the paparazzi photo.
Reply With Quote
  #1489  
Old 01-20-2020, 08:11 PM
LadyGlendower's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: City of Light, France
Posts: 225
Quote:
Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile View Post
May be total coincidence (and I hope it is), but interesting timing on the paparazzi photo.
Oh...I think this was intentional. That smile does not look in the least like she was caught off guard. More like "Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my closeup"
Reply With Quote
  #1490  
Old 01-20-2020, 08:18 PM
texankitcat's Avatar
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Dallas, United States
Posts: 1,003
Quote:
Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile View Post
May be total coincidence (and I hope it is), but interesting timing on the paparazzi photo.
She looks awfully happy to be photographed with her son. I thought They left the U.K. so they could have privacy and protect their son. These two really are their own worst PR.
Reply With Quote
  #1491  
Old 01-20-2020, 08:21 PM
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,555
Quote:
Originally Posted by HighGoalHighDreams View Post
Yes, this will be a major change and adjustment, particularly for Harry, who has enjoyed protection from this for the greater part of his life.

Carefully brokered deals with the Palace have protected William and Harry from paparazzi intrusion for most of their lives, with small breaks. They were protected by a formal agreement from all but major stories until they were finished with their education. Then there was a brief frenzy before each entered the workforce (Harry in the army and William as a rescue pilot), where they would get mobbed and pictures would be published when they were out, mostly at night... but since they have become full-time working Royals, they have once again been allowed to go about their day-to-day lives, by and large, without being bothered. The Palace makes deals that control this very, very well.

Now all bets are off, and Harry will be in a position he has not been in for greater than a decade: the subject of uncontrolled tabloid frenzy. This makes me sad for him, and I wish him the best.
I think there may be an uncontrolled frenzy for awhile but all stories get old eventually, if the people involved let them. No one is so inherently fascinating that they can’t be left in peace the majority of the time. Even the furor surrounding Diana was the result of the never ending dramas in her life combined with her deliberately courting the press when she thought it would be helpful.

There are mid-level celebrities covered by the US press all the time. And there are celebrities whose fame dwarfs that of Harry and Meghan who you rarely see unless they’ve got a movie to promote.

I think whether Harry and Meghan are eventually left alone will depend on what kind of work they plan to pursue and what PR strategy they use to help them attain their goal of a more private life. There are teams in NY and LA whose area of expertise is helping people attain the right kind of attention when they’ve got a project to promote, while minimizing attention at all other times. I imagine the first rule of this strategy would be to make sure both your words AND your actions match up with your stated goal.
Reply With Quote
  #1492  
Old 01-20-2020, 08:37 PM
Courtier
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Woodbury, United States
Posts: 638
Quote:
Originally Posted by texankitcat View Post
She looks awfully happy to be photographed with her son. I thought They left the U.K. so they could have privacy and protect their son. These two really are their own worst PR.
She's an actress.....she loves the media attention to her as a personality and as to her career; what she doesn't like is the media attention to her life, which - in her position - she's going to have to deal with.

Archie doesn't look very comfortable.......
Reply With Quote
  #1493  
Old 01-20-2020, 08:53 PM
texankitcat's Avatar
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Dallas, United States
Posts: 1,003
Quote:
Originally Posted by Betsypaige View Post
She's an actress.....she loves the media attention to her as a personality and as to her career; what she doesn't like is the media attention to her life, which - in her position - she's going to have to deal with.

Archie doesn't look very comfortable.......
In other words she wants attention on her terms, which in her position isn’t going to be possible.
Reply With Quote
  #1494  
Old 01-20-2020, 09:00 PM
Jacknch's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Suffolk, United Kingdom
Posts: 7,634
Let's move on please - this thread is not a platform to re-hash what seems to have been said endlessly on the "Stepping Back" thread.

Further, let's not create speculation as to what Meghan's thoughts were or intentions could be in terms of courting attention whilst outdoors.
__________________
JACK
Reply With Quote
  #1495  
Old 01-20-2020, 09:02 PM
Commoner
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Kansas City, United States
Posts: 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eskimo View Post
Given the smile, it is clear that someone does not have a problem with people taking pictures of her going about her business as a private citizen. Hypocrisy much?

This keeps getting worse. People are claiming that the pictures were taken by Splash News, an agency that celebrities call when they want to be papped for positive PR
This was my immediate thought. If she didn't call them, she certainly doesn't seem to mind being photographed. Every pic we've seen in Canada has a broad smile.
Reply With Quote
  #1496  
Old 01-20-2020, 09:18 PM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: New York, United States
Posts: 4
The video is...awkward - so much more awkward than the photos.

I wish one of her security could've helped her with the carrier's shoulder strap that has completely fallen off her.
Reply With Quote
  #1497  
Old 01-20-2020, 09:26 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Torrance, United States
Posts: 4,245
Quote:
Originally Posted by HereditaryPrincess View Post
It looks like the paparazzi photoshoots will increase given the massive coverage of the Canadian move. I hope I'm wrong.

Yes I believe that you are correct. I believe that there will be an increase in paparazzi style photos of the Sussexes now that they're out of the UK.


While I am pleased that Meghan is not hiding away, I was under the impression that this was exactly the type of situation that they were trying to escape from in Great Britain.
Reply With Quote
  #1498  
Old 01-20-2020, 10:34 PM
Zaira's Avatar
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: A, United States
Posts: 1,190
I think Meghan was more smiling because she was talking to Archie..in the video she is clearly looking down and talking to him. Very sweet mama moment. Archie is VERY big now! He has grown so much. Also our first sighting of their second dog and our first sighting of Little Guy in well over 2 years.

And in general, just like how Kate would often smile when being photographed or other royal ladies, I think time, place, and manner matter a lot. Pictures on occasion and taken respectfully probably wouldn't bother Meghan at least. Pictures taken constantly, with rude words shouted, at close range or in dangerous situations, or in private places are one thing.

But Meghan being snapped on a public trail, well there isn't much she can do so might as well go on with it. She would have to call the paps like some want to accuse since they have been camping out all over Vancouver and near their rental from what some friends have said. One of my besties said their usually isn't this much media in Vancouver!
Reply With Quote
  #1499  
Old 01-20-2020, 10:42 PM
Somebody's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Somewhere, Suriname
Posts: 3,894
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaira View Post
I think Meghan was more smiling because she was talking to Archie..in the video she is clearly looking down and talking to him. Very sweet mama moment. Archie is VERY big now! He has grown so much. Also our first sighting of their second dog and our first sighting of Little Guy in well over 2 years.

And in general, just like how Kate would often smile when being photographed or other royal ladies, I think time, place, and manner matter a lot. Pictures on occasion and taken respectfully probably wouldn't bother Meghan at least. Pictures taken constantly, with rude words shouted, at close range or in dangerous situations, or in private places are one thing.

But Meghan being snapped on a public trail, well there isn't much she can do so might as well go on with it. She would have to call the paps like some want to accuse since they have been camping out all over Vancouver and near their rental from what some friends have said. One of my besties said their usually isn't this much media in Vancouver!
When did that happen? As someone pointed out in one of the topics. On their engagements they have encountered lots of enthusiasm everywhere they went. It might have happened a few times but their reception by the public (and the photographers on those engagements) has been overwhelmingly positive. So, I assume that wasn't the reason for their recent actions.
Reply With Quote
  #1500  
Old 01-20-2020, 10:45 PM
Zaira's Avatar
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: A, United States
Posts: 1,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by Somebody View Post
When did that happen? As someone pointed out in one of the topics. On their engagements they have encountered lots of enthusiasm everywhere they went. It might have happened a few times but their reception by the public (and the photographers on those engagements) has been overwhelmingly positive. So, I assume that wasn't the reason for their recent actions.
I was speaking in the abstract, not about a particular instance.

And I don't think they have ever had an issue with photographers or at least not since the engagement. But what some refuse to see (and what is off topic for this thread) is that media can still be intrusive, bullying and abusive even if you are not physically being chased by photographers.

Edited to add: of course the tabloids (Sun I believe) did hire a drone to take photographs of their Cotswold home including photos through windows that showed details. That was one instance of intrusive photographer behavior.
__________________

Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
archie mountbatten-windsor, duchess of sussex, duke of sussex, meghan markle, prince harry


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Duke and Duchess of Sussex, General News 3: February - May 2019 JessRulz Current Events Archive 731 05-12-2019 06:13 PM
Duke and Duchess of Sussex, General News 2: December 2018 - February 2019 soapstar Current Events Archive 675 02-20-2019 06:26 PM




Popular Tags
althorp archie mountbatten-windsor aristocracy bangladesh belgian royal belgian royal family birthday celebration chittagong crown prince hussein's future wife crusades current events cypher danish royalty denmark diana princess of wales duchess of cambridge duchess of sussex duke & duchess of cambridge; duke of sussex dutch royal family dutch royals family search felipe vi french royalty future future wife of prince hussein germany haakon vii hamdan bin mohammed hill history israel jerusalem jumma king salman lithuania lithuanian palaces mailing meghan markle memoir mohammed vi monaco royal monarchism mountbatten netflix norway history official visit pakistan prince charles prince daniel prince harry princess margaret pronunciation qe2 queen maud rown royal children royal tour russian imperial family saudi arabia spanish history state visit state visit to denmark sweden tracts trump united kingdom valois visit from sweden working royals; full-time royals; part-time royals;


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:03 AM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2020
Jelsoft Enterprises
×