View Poll Results: Guess the sex of Harry and Meghan's first baby!
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05-02-2019, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Osipi
I would be more likely to put it all down to a lack of formality between family members than to suggest that their titles aren't important to them. Their titles and styles are a necessity in the line of work they're in but among family members, they're just family. It remains to be seen just how Harry and Meghan will handle their child(ren)'s titles and styles going into the future and I sincerely think that we won't know anything now until Charles becomes King and hopefully that's a long, long way off.
We've seen a report where George wondered "why is Uncle Harry being so quiet?". We know that the Cambridge children call HM, The Queen "Gan-Gan". This is what families do.
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I think that's just it- I don't think it is a lack of formality. Surely William and Catherine don't call their eldest son "Prince George ". He is just "George" to them.
I think Harry & Meghan's omission of titles is signified here.
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05-02-2019, 09:24 AM
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I still bet it will be a boy. In the names I bet on Albert, Philip or Alexander.
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05-02-2019, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wymanda
Yes Charles has expressed a wish for a more pared down working family but when you look at the current working royals you only have W&C, H&M, E&S who are under 60 years of age. The Princess Royal, Prince Andrew, the Gloucesters & Prince & Princess Michael are all close to or over 70 & the Kents & Princess Alexandra are in their 80's with the Dchs of Kent retired from public life.
In the years to come the younger members will have to step up to fill the gaps.
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Poor Andrew. He just turned 59 in february but is already considered to no longer qualify as under 60 and is even perceived as being close to 70
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05-03-2019, 09:49 AM
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Poor Andrew. He just turned 59 in february but is already considered to no longer qualify as under 60 and is even perceived as being close to 70 
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Well, like I said, I believe Charles already has a strict plan and maybe it will be to eliminate every little appearance of a "firm" royal. Andrew's daughters are not firm royals or on the payroll but they do a very nice job for the organizations they favor. What I mean is that not every school or business opening will need a royal attending. Other countries do not and they survive nicely. Many organization would rather have a "star" athletic or entertainer showing up at their venue. I am sure Charles ideas will be put in place and might even start soon under the eye of the Queen. I personally will enjoy seeing a bit of change. JMO
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05-03-2019, 10:44 AM
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Well, like I said, I believe Charles already has a strict plan and maybe it will be to eliminate every little appearance of a "firm" royal. Andrew's daughters are not firm royals or on the payroll but they do a very nice job for the organizations they favor. What I mean is that not every school or business opening will need a royal attending. Other countries do not and they survive nicely. Many organization would rather have a "star" athletic or entertainer showing up at their venue. I am sure Charles ideas will be put in place and might even start soon under the eye of the Queen. I personally will enjoy seeing a bit of change. JMO
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It'll be interesting to see how this play out. While royal patronages and such don't mean much to me as an American, I've heard from marketing executive that have worked in UK that just having the royal endorsement in UK means a lot from a marketing perspective. So I don't know if what you are saying there is entirely true in UK.
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05-03-2019, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Winnie
Well, like I said, I believe Charles already has a strict plan and maybe it will be to eliminate every little appearance of a "firm" royal. Andrew's daughters are not firm royals or on the payroll but they do a very nice job for the organizations they favor. What I mean is that not every school or business opening will need a royal attending. Other countries do not and they survive nicely. Many organization would rather have a "star" athletic or entertainer showing up at their venue. I am sure Charles ideas will be put in place and might even start soon under the eye of the Queen. I personally will enjoy seeing a bit of change. JMO
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Well, I don't think you understand the importance the royal patronage has for the organisations all around UK. I am sure that Charles, seeing as he has more than 400 of them, understand how it works and will act accordingly.
Also, not every school or business opening needs or gets a royal attending right now, it's just a select number. It's not about being a "star" or a celebrity or your picture being on the front of a newspaper twice a week. I'm sure the organisations that have Princess Anne as their patron are very happy with having her.
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05-03-2019, 07:06 PM
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Peter for a name or Peter Phillips as a godparent.
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05-04-2019, 09:35 AM
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Still saying a girl, no royals as Godparents, her friends will have a major part
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05-04-2019, 09:54 PM
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George Windsor, The Earl of St. Andrews could be a godfather.
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05-04-2019, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla
George Windsor, The Earl of St. Andrews could be a godfather.
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That seems a very unlikely choice to me. Why do you think Harry and Meghan would ask him?
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05-05-2019, 12:18 AM
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May the fourth has come and gone so I guess there will be no ...
Dorian Arthur Richard Thomas - Darth
Lauchlan Uri Kenneth Edmund - Luke
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Loyce Elizabeth Ivy Amalia - Princess Leia
Rosemary Rachel Kate - R2-KT
May 5th - Midwives Day, St George feast Day ...
Peter Frederick George Henry
Majella Georgiana
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05-05-2019, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by King of the Jungle
May the fourth has come and gone so I guess there will be no ...
Dorian Arthur Richard Thomas - Darth
Lauchlan Uri Kenneth Edmund - Luke
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Loyce Elizabeth Ivy Amalia - Princess Leia
Rosemary Rachel Kate - R2-KT
May 5th - Midwives Day, St George feast Day ...
Peter Frederick George Henry
Majella Georgiana
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I think you meant Rosemary Rachel Doria Diana
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05-05-2019, 02:50 AM
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That would be the well known R2-D2, yes, also relevant on 4th May.
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05-05-2019, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by loonytick
I think you meant Rosemary Rachel Doria Diana

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Originally Posted by King of the Jungle
That would be the well known R2-D2, yes, also relevant on 4th May.
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Best! Suggestion! Ever!
Okay, close the polls, we have a name, now the baby can come
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05-05-2019, 07:25 AM
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You guys all need to cut your coffee intake! Any stranger wandering in here will think you've almost the plot . . . in the nicest possible way of course.
R2D2: That train has left the station. All for want of a baby.
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05-05-2019, 09:51 AM
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I can potentially see Rose being used, but not Rosemary. Rosemary is definitely an elderly woman name these days.  I would love it if they named the baby Rose, and called her Rosie.
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05-05-2019, 10:12 AM
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I can potentially see Rose being used, but not Rosemary. Rosemary is definitely an elderly woman name these days.  I would love it if they named the baby Rose, and called her Rosie. 
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I'm not fan of nicknames, but I do love Rosie from the name Rose. Very beautiful.
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05-05-2019, 10:49 AM
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I can potentially see Rose being used, but not Rosemary. Rosemary is definitely an elderly woman name these days.  I would love it if they named the baby Rose, and called her Rosie. 
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I think more the fact that Rosemary is the middle name of Camilla, might eliminate it more then it being 'old lady'
Now if they did choose to honor Camilla, they could pull a Harry and say 'her name is Rosemary but she will be known as Rosie'.
I can just see people having total meltdowns around the world, and the media having a field day, if Diana's granddaughter was named for Camilla
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05-05-2019, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Countessmeout
I think more the fact that Rosemary is the middle name of Camilla, might eliminate it more then it being 'old lady'
Now if they did choose to honor Camilla, they could pull a Harry and say 'her name is Rosemary but she will be known as Rosie'.
I can just see people having total meltdowns around the world, and the media having a field day, if Diana's granddaughter was named for Camilla 
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Then they could use that as a middle name. Cause Rosemary is jus eh. No offense to Camilla.
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05-05-2019, 12:08 PM
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What is an ugly name or not is a personal choice. Many names suggested here, I would find old fashioned/old woman like.
But again I don't see them honoring Camilla even as a middle name. With all the others they could honor.
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