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Old 04-06-2019, 11:25 AM
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that was a long time ago, and I don't really see it reviving.
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Old 04-06-2019, 12:56 PM
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I read that it was blossom in several articles on southern African names.
Also, I read that Tswana was the language spoken in Botswana, a country with which they certainly do have a connection.
I am no expert and was relying on information that was supported in multiple sources.
Fun fact: there are 3 times more Batswana in South Africa than there are in Botswana. There are probably a few dialectical variations between the Setswana spoken in Botswana and the Setswana spoken in South Africa so Sethunya might mean flower in Botswana. However if all your sources are Western I remain skeptical.

As for their connection to Botswana, I'm sorry but enjoying a country as a holiday destination doesn't entitle you to any part of that country's culture. They weren't born in Botswana, have never lived in Botswana and aren't descended from anyone who's Tswana. I'd be willing to bet that they don't speak more than 3 words of the language. Most westerners who give their children African names can't even pronounce them properly.
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Old 04-06-2019, 04:07 PM
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True, Ps Alice of Cambridge would have been OK, but Sussex not so good. I don't think that Philip really is keen on his name being used, otherwise I would have expected William to use it as a middle name for one of his boys.. I don't know what H and Meg are going to go for.. think it is too hard to guess...
I've wondered about the same thing, Denville, about Philip's not wanting his name used.

Has David been discussed here? (I'm late to this conversation.) It's one of Harry's names, and I like it a lot, but do you think HM would approve it as a first name? After all, she did name her son Edward...

I don't know why I'm feeling so strongly about Richard especially since I think the baby is a girl.

Richard Henry Alexander Philip
Matilda/Margaret Elizabeth Diana Doria
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Old 04-06-2019, 04:11 PM
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I can see Philip being grumpy and saying he didn't want a load of Philips, unlike all the Alberts that Q Victoria insisted on having in the family. I don't think Richard is likely.. there si already the D of Gloucester and I think they think of it as a slightly unlucky name..
I don't know about Matilda, to me it sounds awfully medieval.. but you never know.. Maybe Margaret as there is no Margaret now..
I wonder if David IS a possibility.. as its one of Harry's names. and the Patron saint of Wales...and it would be a new name since the D of Windsor was officially called Edward
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Old 04-06-2019, 04:18 PM
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I don’t think HM would have any issues if they wished to use David as a first name. After all, Princess Margaret did name her son David.
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Old 04-06-2019, 04:44 PM
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after the queen Mothers brother, David. It would be nice to have a new name... though Wll and Kate have brought in Louis
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Old 04-06-2019, 05:38 PM
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Time is running out, so here are my final predictions.

Born: April 14
Gener: boy (but I REALLY want a girl)
Godparents: 6, 3 from Meghan and 3 from Harry.
Not sure on names, but I think Princess Eugenie and Mark Dyer have a good shot. Some of Meghan’s close friends are disqualified since they’re not baptised, so that will narrow the field for her.

Names:
I think they’ll surprise us with a first name, but use honoring names as middle names.
I’d like to see:

Alexander Charles Philip
Noah Charles Dorian
Jacob Alexander Charles

Emma Frances Doria
Olivia Diana Elizabeth
Amelia Doria Diana
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Old 04-06-2019, 07:30 PM
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Daphne Dunne, the Australian fan of Harry, passed away Monday, April 1. She was 99 years old.
I was so sad to hear that news. I didn't know about it when I posted my previous message. I knew Ms. Dunne was ill and still in the hospital when H&M sent her the birthday card. They must surely be thinking about Daphne a lot and remembering her fondly.
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Old 04-06-2019, 07:35 PM
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Time is running out, so here are my final predictions.

Born: April 14
Gener: boy (but I REALLY want a girl)
Godparents: 6, 3 from Meghan and 3 from Harry.
Not sure on names, but I think Princess Eugenie and Mark Dyer have a good shot. Some of Meghan’s close friends are disqualified since they’re not baptised, so that will narrow the field for her.

Names:
I think they’ll surprise us with a first name, but use honoring names as middle names.
I’d like to see:

Alexander Charles Philip
Noah Charles Dorian
Jacob Alexander Charles

Emma Frances Doria
Olivia Diana Elizabeth
Amelia Doria Diana
I like your name choices, specially the girls I also like the traditional ones like Mary or Victoria, but Harry and Meghan seem like modern people to me, maybe they'll go the unconventional route for their baby's name.
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Old 04-06-2019, 10:40 PM
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Marianne could be used as a middle name for a daughter.

Franklin could be used as a middle name for a son.
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Old 04-07-2019, 01:02 AM
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Whilst the BRF traditionally seem to use a lot of honour names, names don't *have* to honour relatives and can equally honour friends or famous fans like Daphne. I think it would be a sweet, warm gesture though do agree that it's more likely Daphne would be a middle name or a name for a second child if it were ever considered in honour of Mrs. Dunne.
What makes Daphne any more special then the soldiers, sick kids and other people Harry has connected with over the years?

While Daphne has touched the heart of many fans on this board, and Harry, is it enough to single her out for such an honor? Over any others he bonded with? I doubt it.

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Time is running out, so here are my final predictions.

Born: April 14
Gener: boy (but I REALLY want a girl)
Godparents: 6, 3 from Meghan and 3 from Harry.
Not sure on names, but I think Princess Eugenie and Mark Dyer have a good shot. Some of Meghan’s close friends are disqualified since they’re not baptised, so that will narrow the field for her.

Names:
I think they’ll surprise us with a first name, but use honoring names as middle names.
I’d like to see:

Alexander Charles Philip
Noah Charles Dorian
Jacob Alexander Charles

Emma Frances Doria
Olivia Diana Elizabeth
Amelia Doria Diana
I don't think they will go way out of the box and choose names with no royal/family connection. Unlike Anne's grandchildren, these ones will have titles, and be grandchildren of the king one day.

A few of your choices do have some royal pedigree to them:

Alexander has a royal pedigree. It is one of George's names. It perhaps doesn't have the best British royal pedigree as a first name for boys, as the only time it was used as a first name was the short lived son of Edward VII. Scotland had three kings though. Prince Philip's great uncle was Prince Alexander of Battenberg and his great-grandfather.



-Queen Emma was wife of 2 kings, mother of 2 kings, stepmother of 2. And was the aunt of William the conqueror (his claim to throne through her).

-George II and III both had daughters named Amelia

There is of course already Lady Amelia Windsor, granddaughter of the Duke of Kent. But names are commonly reused in the royal family so no ruling that out of use.
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Old 04-07-2019, 02:31 AM
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Alexander would be nice. It was the name of Prince Philip's great-grandfather, Prince Alexander of Hesse (father of Philip's grandfather Louis of Battenberg and great-uncle Alexander of Battenberg) as well as three medieval Kings of Scotland.
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Old 04-07-2019, 03:59 AM
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Marianne is more associated with France than with the UK.
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Old 04-07-2019, 04:16 AM
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Princess Margaret was formally called Princess Margaret Rose while she was a girl.



Not currently, but double names were common in the British Royal Family during the 18th and 19th centuries.


The BRF had double first names in the 18th and 19th centuries reflecting their Hannoverian roots. Unlike the UK, it was and is still common in the upper classes, for double names in the German states. It started with George Louis (George I). By the reign of Victoria we see a change in that. Only her eldest son has a double first name. Alfred, Arthur and Leopold all had singular names despite their mother and father both being German.


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Marianne is more associated with France than with the UK.
Yes, Marianne aka Lady Liberty is certainly a French personification, not British.

Not sure Cyril considered the association. Many names Cyril chooses seem to just be random ones liked.

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True, Ps Alice of Cambridge would have been OK, but Sussex not so good. I don't think that Philip really is keen on his name being used, otherwise I would have expected William to use it as a middle name for one of his boys.. I don't know what H and Meg are going to go for.. think it is too hard to guess...
Its also just possible William and Kate didn't like the name. And chose other ways to honor him like Louis and George, both names of his Uncles. Both served as mentors to him, George first before he died of cancer, serving as Philip's guardian.
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Old 04-07-2019, 04:42 AM
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The Telegraph has printed a sweepstake if anyone wants to play it with friends.

Victoria = 8/1
Diana = 10/1
Isobella/Isabella & Alice = 12/1
Arthur = 14/1
Edward, James, Phillip, Elizabeth, Alexandra & Grace = 16/1

Lots more names suggested in the sweepstake.
https://cf.eip.telegraph.co.uk/embed...stake-2019.pdf
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:19 AM
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Margaret wasn't officially a double first name, it was just how she was called.

The BRF had double first names in the 18th and 19th centuries reflecting their Han



Yes, Marianne aka Lady Liberty is certainly a French personification, not British.

Not sure Cyril considered the association. Many names Cyril chooses seem to just be random ones liked.



Its also just possible William and Kate didn't like the name. And chose other ways to honor him like Louis and George, both names of his Uncles. Both served as mentors to him, George first before he died of cancer, serving as Philip's guardian.
Even if they don't like the name, I can't see why they could not give it as a second name.. he is getting on and he's a beloved grandfather to WIlliam. So I suspect that (since the name hasn't been given that muc in the family.. Charles has it as a second name.. so does Will and so does Ed's son).. Perhaps PHilip does not want there to be loads of Philips..
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:21 AM
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Whilst the BRF traditionally seem to use a lot of honour names, names don't *have* to honour relatives and can equally honour friends or famous fans like Daphne. I think it would be a sweet, warm gesture though do agree that it's more likely Daphne would be a middle name or a name for a second child if it were ever considered in honour of Mrs. Dunne.
why? There are lots of people that harry has met in his work.. why single one person out?
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Old 04-07-2019, 07:52 AM
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Alexander would be nice. It was the name of Prince Philip's great-grandfather, Prince Alexander of Hesse (father of Philip's grandfather Louis of Battenberg and great-uncle Alexander of Battenberg) as well as three medieval Kings of Scotland.
I really like the name Alexander.
(I was hoping William and Kate would use that but instead they went with Louis, a name I'm meh about!)

But really I think Baby Sussex will be a girl.
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Old 04-07-2019, 08:57 AM
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I hope it is a girl and I would love it were she named Princess Alice, the last Princess Alice being Prince Philip's mother.

She ticks all the boxes. She was a woman ahead of her time, treated shabbily by her philandering husband and conveniently shipped off to a Swiss Sanitorium so they could 'cure' her schizophrenia! Come the war she ran toward the danger rather than from and set up home in Athens, Greece.

When the island was occupied they obviously knew exactly who she was . . . Princess Andrew of Greece and a close relative of the BRF. Nevertheless she was both a devout Christian and a patriot to her bones and gave no quarter. While living close to yhe Germans she helped the jews and hid a Jewish family and was posthumously recognised as "Reightous Among the Nation's"

Oh, did I forget that she was born profoundly deaf. There are books written that will tell you the true misfortunes of her life but it didn't break her. Mistreated, wrong headed, passionare, pig-headed, she was in no way perfect but she was never raised to live the life she did and she made the most of the hand she was dealt.
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Old 04-07-2019, 09:22 AM
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Jacquetta Loyce Frances. Jacquetta is steeped in royal history. I heard of the witchcraft claim but Harry and Meghan got married on the anniversary of Anne Boleyn's execution. No superstition here. Loyce is Doria's middle name; Frances is Diana's. Joseph (Ragland) Arthur (Charles) Henry (Harry) for a boy. No Markle names.
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