Gender, names, and godparent guessing for Harry and Meghan's first child

[AnnaNotherThing]

Originally Posted by Terri Terri

Let me get this straight. You think that it is a good idea to name the child of a bi-racial woman after someone who was a known racist? And I think the last thing that Harry and Meghan would want is to have their child/children named after an 'American divorcee' connection!

Well if that is your view, Meghan better watch out! Her husband is named after a known wife beheader! To us these names have some negative historical connotations or connections, but to the royal family they are just "family names" 😍

[lea]

Girl -
Bianca Frances Elizabeth
Ayana Jeanette Alexandra
Dorothea Frances Elizabeth
Mariel Frances Dorothea
Michelle Jane Elizabeth
Rachel Amal Alexandra
Alexandra Frances Dorothea
Caroline Rachel Alexandra
Edie Alexandra Frances

Boy -
Henry Philip Dembe
Joseph Philip Charles
Euan Henry Philip

I would have to give boys names more thought!

Somewhat unique that they could use their own proper first names but not be called Harry or Meghan.

I’ve enjoyed reading everyone’s name ideas!

I also think Rosa Jeanette Alexandra is beautiful, especially with the flower connection.

And maybe Amal Clooney as a Godparent?

[Lady Reem]

Originally Posted by AnnaNotherThing

Another name I have been thinking about for a boy is Edward or David because of the obvious parallels between King Edward and Harry's choice of partner - divorced American - and how it has come full circle. I know the circumstances are different with Prince Harry not being the reigning monarch, but the Queen saw what effect NOT allowing that marriage had on her life, she was more accepting of it with her grandson in her later years. So to honour the Queen's favourite Uncle and parallel narrative, I like the combo of:

Edward Charles Philip Thomas

And I still like for a girl:

Victoria Elizabeth Margaret Diana

Errr I believe for the Queen the process of acceptance of divorce & remarriage within her family actually began with her own children. Trying to connect Harry’s choice of wife, a lovely bi-racial lady, to a twice-divorced woman from almost a century ago and who had real life links to Nazis is just absurd. The American Nationality is all they had in common. Also I just can’t see H&M opting for the name ‘Thomas’ but God does love a trier.

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by lea

I also think Rosa Jeanette Alexandra is beautiful, especially with the flower connection.

And maybe Amal Clooney as a Godparent?

Seeing as Meghan's mother fondly called her "Flower", they could name their daughter Penelope and we'd have a Poppy in the family.

I don't really think that they're going to go too far outside of the box with names. It will be something unique to the child yet could be seen as standard, traditional names.

[jacqui24]

Well, Harry is predicting it’s a girl. I’m sure he’s happy as long as the baby is healthy, but the man really wants a daughter.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RoyalFami...26341207310336

[Osipi]

That will definitely be a double whammy for Harry then. He's already been totally smitten by his wife and with a daughter, he'll be doubly bamboozled to the nth degree. Of course, with Harry, this will happen even if the child is a boy. He's going to make such an excellent father.

[Dani257]

I just hope somewhere they're able to pick a name from Meghan's side of the family.


Getting back to this child, obviously they won't name him/her Blueberry Sparkle or anything outlandish. But, I find it odd that certain names that aren't the least bit unusual are deemed "not royal". But even though there have been a lot of Henrys in the family throughout history at some point someone was the first. to have it. If we had a slew of King Matthews that Harry had been named after and there had never been a Henry, would Henry be out of the running for his and Meghan's child?


And is Meghan (or Rachel) a royal name now, since there's a royal duchess with those names? Not that I see them naming a child after themselves. But, with the possibility of the child having three or four names, I hope no one would begrudge one of those names coming from Meghan's side, even if it hasn't been used before on Harry's.

[Ish]

Originally Posted by Dani257

Getting back to this child, obviously they won't name him/her Blueberry Sparkle or anything outlandish. But, I find it odd that certain names that aren't the least bit unusual are deemed "not royal". But even though there have been a lot of Henrys in the family throughout history at some point someone was the first. to have it. If we had a slew of King Matthews that Harry had been named after and there had never been a Henry, would Henry be out of the running for his and Meghan's child?

The truth of it is, people like to make up rules about what names Harry and Meghan can use, without anything to support it. The idea that Harry and Meghan are restricted to naming their children after previous kings, or even just previous British royals, doesn’t hold true of you look at the names of other members of the family. After all, Louis, Eugenie, Andrew, and Prince Michael all get their given names from non-British royals.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by AnnaNotherThing

Another name I have been thinking about for a boy is Edward or David because of the obvious parallels between King Edward and Harry's choice of partner - divorced American - and how it has come full circle. I know the circumstances are different with Prince Harry not being the reigning monarch, but the Queen saw what effect NOT allowing that marriage had on her life, she was more accepting of it with her grandson in her later years. So to honour the Queen's favourite Uncle and parallel narrative, I like the combo of:

Edward Charles Philip Thomas

And I still like for a girl:

Victoria Elizabeth Margaret Diana

where do you ge the idea that the D of Windsor was her favourite u ncle…

[Fijiro]

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Originally Posted by Terri Terri View Post
Let me get this straight. You think that it is a good idea to name the child of a bi-racial woman after someone who was a known racist? And I think the last thing that Harry and Meghan would want is to have their child/children named after an 'American divorcee' connection![/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by AnnaNotherThing

Well if that is your view, Meghan better watch out! Her husband is named after a known wife beheader! To us these names have some negative historical connotations or connections, but to the royal family they are just "family names" 😍

I thought Prince Henry (Harry) was named after Prince Charles's late great uncle Prince Henry of Gloucester, and Prince William named after Prince Henry's late son Prince William of Gloucester. Prince William of Gloucester was Prince Richard of Gloucester's elder brother.

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by Fijiro

I thought Prince Henry (Harry) was named after Prince Charles's late great uncle Prince Henry of Gloucester, and Prince William named after Prince Henry's late son Prince William of Gloucester. Prince William of Gloucester was Prince Richard of Gloucester's elder brother.

I’m not sure if that is 100% true, but i think what AnnaNotherThing meant was that Henry shares the same name as Henry VIII, rather than naked after.

Originally Posted by Terri Terri

Let me get this straight. You think that it is a good idea to name the child of a bi-racial woman after someone who was a known racist? And I think the last thing that Harry and Meghan would want is to have their child/children named after an 'American divorcee' connection!

Can we just highlight the fact that there is an Edward currently in the family, and there will be Edwards again. Not everything has to be about race.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

Can we just highlight the fact that there is an Edward currently in the family, and there will be Edwards again. Not everything has to be about race.

I think Terri Terri's objection was to name the baby after Duke of Windsor rather than just the name Edward or David.

Anyways, remember the sailor that picked up Harry at IG? He did an interview with ET. Apparently, what we didn't see is that he touched the royal bump after he hugged Meghan. He, like dad, is predicting a girl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__6NR2rg7MQ

[LauraS3514]

[QUOTE=Lumutqueen;2164290
Can we just highlight the fact that there is an Edward currently in the family, and there will be Edwards again. Not everything has to be about race.[/QUOTE]


In fact, there are THREE Edwards currently in the Royal Family: HRH The Earl of Wessex, HRH The Duke of Kent, and his grandson Baron Downpatrick.

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by LauraS3514

In fact, there are THREE Edwards currently in the Royal Family: HRH The Earl of Wessex, HRH The Duke of Kent, and his grandson Baron Downpatrick.

There is a difference between using a name with bad history vs naming a child for someone with a bad reputation.

The name Edward in itself isn't bad. But choosing the name Edward specifically because of Edward VIII is another matter. The suggestion was made they use the name because both men married an American divorcee. This is not the kind of connection to put on a baby.

The Duke of Kent was named for his uncle who served as his godfather. He was born in the life time of his grandfather, before the whole abdication crisis and issues with Edward. His grandson was named for him. It was the queen who chose to really bring the name back into the fold.

Same could be said for names like Richard. No one would name a kid for Richard III. They would simply overlook that particular history.

[jacqui24]

Or Charles for that matter.

[Curryong]

I would say though that the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester did name their younger son Richard after the Richard Duke of Gloucester who later became King Richard III. It's quite an unusual name in Royal circles otherwise.

Unless of course it was a family name on the Duchess's side. Perhaps they didn't believe that the Princes in the Tower were murdered by their uncle and wanted to make the point.

[wymanda]

Godparents

Jessica Mulroney
Princess Eugenie
Jack Brooksbank
Serena Williams

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by wymanda

Godparents

Jessica Mulroney
Princess Eugenie
Jack Brooksbank
Serena Williams

I’m don’t know that they’d choose both Eugenie and Jack. I know it is not uncommon in non royal circles but I don’t see it here.

We talked about Serena earlier in the thread, friendship wise yes, but since she is a Jehovah’s Witness it is not clear how her religion or the CoE would be with it.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by wymanda

Godparents

Jessica Mulroney
Princess Eugenie
Jack Brooksbank
Serena Williams

Doubt Jack will be on the list. I can think of a few friends and family that would have a better chance of being picked than him.

[Gawin]

Originally Posted by Curryong

I would say though that the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester did name their younger son Richard after the Richard Duke of Gloucester who later became King Richard III. It's quite an unusual name in Royal circles otherwise.

Unless of course it was a family name on the Duchess's side. Perhaps they didn't believe that the Princes in the Tower were murdered by their uncle and wanted to make the point.

Maybe they chose it because they liked it and it was a suitably royal name. For example, Queen Mary suggested they name their oldest son Robert because "Robert of Gloucester sounds nice." The Duke and Duchess of York (later King George VI and Queen Elizabeth) wanted to name their second daughter Ann because they liked it and thought it went well with York. George V vetoed the name and they settled on Margaret instead. Prince Charles wasn't named after Charles I, II, Bonnie Prince Charlie. His name was chosen because his mother liked it. So it seems the BRF doesn't always chose names to honor others with the same name.