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07-11-2018, 03:37 PM
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True, Its foolish enough to make comments on controversial issues in the UK.. (or even human rights abuses elsewhere) but to say something indiscreet about a very controversial issues in another country, and one which has had a difficult relationship with the UK... that's very foolish indeed.
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Except that she didn't. The person who conversed with Meghan later clarified that it was only her personal impression that the DoS was pleased but she actually only said that she followed the referendum along with interest.
Of course the Daily Fail posted an article on it AFTER the person already clarified that no audible endorsement in any shape or from came from the DoS. Journalistic integrity of the highest order..... (I so wish we would stop giving such a vile and nasty place any clicks here. )
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07-11-2018, 03:45 PM
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I sincerely hope that child asked to touch Meghan's hair. Because everyone knows you don't touch a black woman's hair without asking first...

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07-11-2018, 04:19 PM
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Ahhh.. but don't you know? Children are color blind. They do, however have sensitive radar to pick up on nice ladies and nice guys. We could learn a lot from children.
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07-11-2018, 05:01 PM
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A very successful and beautiful visit!
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07-11-2018, 05:18 PM
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A very successful and beautiful visit!
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Doesn't this make you even more excited for late October and early November?
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07-11-2018, 05:25 PM
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As a descendant from Irish farmers affected by the potato famine I like that Harry and Meghan visited the famine memorial. It seems like it was a great trip for them overall and very interesting for them both.
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Aw, such a sweet photo!
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07-11-2018, 06:13 PM
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Exceptionally fun to watch these two on tour. Their personal chemistry as a couple is just WOW! Plus they have charm and charisma for days. They seemed to win over everyone they met from the President to the littlest of kids. Plus, they both seem to be genuinely interested in the people that they meet. They've done their homework but they also just know how to work the room. It will be interesting to see if any of the conversations have staying power beyond today. Will Ireland join the Invictus Games? Will Meghan actually go back to the Old Library when the 1st female bust is installed? The tour can be counted a success either way but I'm excited to see if they follow-up.
Also interested to see what their signature outing will be. That event that becomes the standard for every tour. W&K tend to challenge each other in a local sport. I think C&C try local delicacies. Based on this tour, I hope H&M's signature is outings with kids and/or dogs. Other ideas?
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07-11-2018, 07:08 PM
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Also interested to see what their signature outing will be. That event that becomes the standard for every tour. W&K tend to challenge each other in a local sport. I think C&C try local delicacies. Based on this tour, I hope H&M's signature is outings with kids and/or dogs. Other ideas?
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Holding hands.
I'm kidding...sort of.
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07-11-2018, 08:24 PM
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Goodness Meghan talked about the politics of abortion in Ireland and nothing said if that was Kate she would in trouble but not Meghan. She won’t be able to get away this much sooner. She knows she can’t talk like that
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07-11-2018, 08:33 PM
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Goodness Meghan talked about the politics of abortion in Ireland and nothing said if that was Kate she would in trouble but not Meghan. She won’t be able to get away this much sooner. She knows she can’t talk like that
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Yes this was talked about a few pages ago right after it happened. She will learn she can't have or show any sort of opinions about political issues.
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07-11-2018, 08:39 PM
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Goodness Meghan talked about the politics of abortion in Ireland and nothing said if that was Kate she would in trouble but not Meghan. She won’t be able to get away this much sooner. She knows she can’t talk like that
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Actually A LOT was said. It even made newspapers. It's something that she is going to have to learn. Don't trust anyone who's not in your inner circle.
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07-11-2018, 08:50 PM
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Holding hands.
I'm kidding...sort of.
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 of course! They do tend to turn PDA into a sport. Unless HMQ starts crashing the party I think we're going to get handholding in all its variations. My new favorite from today and Ascot is the I'm going to walk holding hands while being in a conversation with someone in the entirely different direction.
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Actually A LOT was said. It even made newspapers. It's something that she is going to have to learn. Don't trust anyone who's not in your inner circle.
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Agree that taking a stance about abortion rights would've been out of bounds but I think it's worth acknowledging that the rules about what's "political" are very subjective. Meghan called LGBTQ rights human rights. That made the paper and no one raised an eyebrow. Her comments about the Me Too movement ruffled a few feathers but she and KP navigated that tightrope fairly well. No real backlash. Just saying it's not as cut and dry as we're suggesting.
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07-11-2018, 08:56 PM
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Goodness Meghan talked about the politics of abortion in Ireland and nothing said if that was Kate she would in trouble but not Meghan. She won’t be able to get away this much sooner. She knows she can’t talk like that
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First, it was talked about. Second, she didn't.
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07-11-2018, 09:32 PM
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Well she did she gave an opinion
I don’t know how she still is making mistakes like that. Thought the mess with her father talking was the end of talking.
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07-11-2018, 09:37 PM
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Well she did she gave an opinion
I don’t know how she still is making mistakes like that. Thought the mess with her father talking was the end of talking.
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But... she didn’t.
She said she had been interested in the referendum, but did not voice an opinion on the referendum. The woman she spoke to then tweeted that Meghan had been in favour of the outcome of the referendum, only to clarify that it was her opinion that Meghan was in favour of it - not that Meghan herself had said anything of the sort.
And not only has it been discussed a lot on the forum, it’s also been hugely misreported by the press, who have chosen to focus on the initial tweet, but not the clarification.
I’d say Meghan is being roasted for this just as much as if Kate or any other royal had done the same - that is to say, far too much, given as she didn’t actually give any opinion.
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07-11-2018, 09:48 PM
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AND she is NOT to blame for her father talking to the media.
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07-11-2018, 09:49 PM
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Well she did she gave an opinion
I don’t know how she still is making mistakes like that. Thought the mess with her father talking was the end of talking.
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Where did she give an opinion? Because someone tweeting something that they admitted to be misleading and has clarified that the Duchess make a comment either for or against (although most of us can deduct what her opinion on this would be, but having private opinion isn't the same as expressing them publicly).
I'm not understanding what her father said has anything to do with anything here. She didn't divulge private family conversation unless I missed something.
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07-11-2018, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ish
But... she didn’t.
She said she had been interested in the referendum, but did not voice an opinion on the referendum. The woman she spoke to then tweeted that Meghan had been in favour of the outcome of the referendum, only to clarify that it was her opinion that Meghan was in favour of it - not that Meghan herself had said anything of the sort.
And not only has it been discussed a lot on the forum, it’s also been hugely misreported by the press, who have chosen to focus on the initial tweet, but not the clarification.
I’d say Meghan is being roasted for this just as much as if Kate or any other royal had done the same - that is to say, far too much, given as she didn’t actually give any opinion.
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Ok, you said the same thing I did, but just did it more eloquently.
Just one thing to add, but not only did some papers do what you said. Some of them included both tweets in their article, but of course the headline is that she gave an opinion and then starts the article with she gave an opinion, but once you get down to the middle of the article, they point out that there was a clarification by the person and she actually didn't say anything either way.
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