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Old 04-21-2019, 06:58 AM
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Yep...and Roya is now backpedaling or trying to spin the story. This was such a cluster-f..k. If this was meant to test the waters, it backfired tremendously.

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Eh, the same was said of Andrew, once upon a time.
He was more popular than Charles, hard as it is to believe today.

And the Snowdens were once the glitzy ones...

Popularity is very fickle; it can turn sour in a heartbeat. What matters is position in the hierarchy, and William is the one who has it. The RF is well-aware of that.
Which is exactly my point. Harry and Meghan's popularity would have eventually faded.

William should focus on doing the best as the DoC, and preparing to be a great PoW.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:08 AM
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This piece was not necessary and does more to sour the relationship between the Cambridges and Sussexes. FGS Meghan is going to give birth anyday now and this story leading up to it is poor timing.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:21 AM
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William should focus on doing the best as the DoC, and preparing to be a great PoW.
Is that not what he is doing?
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:25 AM
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Is that not what he is doing?
Not according to the article by Roya...but hey, what do I know.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:29 AM
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"sussexroyal: Happy Birthday Your Majesty, Ma’am, Granny. Wishing you the most wonderful day! ��Harry & Meghan"

I absolutely adore this message from the Sussex's IG. The accompanying photos were a great choice also.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:29 AM
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Which is exactly my point. Harry and Meghan's popularity would have eventually faded.

William should focus on doing the best as the DoC, and preparing to be a great PoW.
I don't think their popularity would have faded, the Sussexes come across as engaging, caring people who want to help others/communities and that's why people like them. The monarch needs that type of connection with people to continue to be successful (changing with the times). The hope would have been that clickbait media would have faded.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:30 AM
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Is that not what he is doing?
Absolutely. He has been going on high-level official visits, attending state banquets and diplomatic receptions, taking part in major memorial services/ceremonies, and getting a more in-depth knowledge of the British state machinery and of the different government departments. Everything an heir is supposed to do .

It is really unfortunate that those press reports make it look like William and Catherine are “ conspiring” against Harry and Meghan when they probably have no part in whatever plans Charles or the Queen, may have for the Sussexes.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:40 AM
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Absolutely. He has been going on high-level official visits, attending state banquets and diplomatic receptions, taking part in major memorial services/ceremonies, and getting a more in-depth knowledge of the British state machinery and of the different government departments. Everything an heir is supposed to do .
I could not agree more with you. It is great to watch how William and Catherine have stepped up the quality and number of engagements they both carry out. William had made some very high profile and sensitive trips in recent years to Israel and Palenstine, and to China. No longer do they look like apprentices or newbies in the role, but "steady" players.

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It is really unfortunate that those press reports make it look like William and Catherine are “ conspiring” against Harry and Meghan when they probably have no part in whatever plans Charles or the Queen, may have for the Sussexes.
Spot on.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:46 AM
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The article doesn't mention BP, Charles or the Queen. It mentions Simon Case as the key figure behind this, whatever it is. BP issued their denied, calling it just speculation. KP has said nothing.

What annoys me the most here, that Harry and Meghan have done nothing wrong. They're just really liked and popular. Meghan is a few days from giving birth, and might just be hit by an article, that she and Harry will be sent "somewhere in Africa" perhaps in 2020. And KP and courtiers are planning this only because they're too popular and too much in the media, which, again, none of it is Meghan and Harry's fault.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:54 AM
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I just don’t like any of this. I just hate how the media has decided to turn the Sussexes and Cambridges relationship into a dueling relationship. And, Meghan. Meghan, has been pretty turned into a punching bag for everything for months on end. A lot of Palace PR mistakes has happened here, if you ask me.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:56 AM
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As much as William would like to have that kind of power, he doesn't.

If Harry and Meghan go anywhere, it's the Queen with the authority to do it.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:59 AM
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The article doesn't mention BP, Charles or the Queen. It mentions Simon Case as the key figure behind this, whatever it is. BP issued their denied, calling it just speculation. KP has said nothing.

What annoys me the most here, that Harry and Meghan have done nothing wrong. They're just really liked and popular. Meghan is a few days from giving birth, and might just be hit by an article, that she and Harry will be sent "somewhere in Africa" perhaps in 2020. And KP and courtiers are planning this only because they're too popular and too much in the media, which, again, none of it is Meghan and Harry's fault.
You cannot put this all on Simon Case. The article says this plan was developed by Sir David Manning, who was appointed as advisor (especially in foreign and diplomatic matters) by the Queen to William and Harry years ago and Lord Geidt, who was the Queen’sPrivate Secretary until 2017.

KP has no power over Harry-only BP and CH do. Anything this big would involve BP and CH is the holder of the purse strings.
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:03 AM
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Popularity is very fickle; it can turn sour in a heartbeat. What matters is position in the hierarchy, and William is the one who has it. The RF is well-aware of that.
This. This is so important.
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:05 AM
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I don't think they are going anywhere. Heck the story only says it is being "suggested" which is a clever work around. The real story is implication of wanting them ship out and the juvenile reason why. Not that one has the power to actually do it. Besides people seem to be forgetting Meghan is applying for citizenship. There are literal rules that have to be followed -- one being she has to live in the UK for 5 years. Unless they are suddenly fast-tracking her status after saying that wouldn't which will start a very different conversation.
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:07 AM
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The Queen is the boss. If Meghan and Harry end up in Timbuktu, it's because of her.
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:08 AM
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The point being, whoever leaked this story, is just very bad at PR. At this point it makes absolutely no sense. It doesn't sound there has been discussions WITH Meghan and Harry at all. She is days from having a baby, they just moved to FC, newly renovated dream home, and Meghan has to wait good few more years for citizenship of UK.

Leaking an article saying, that courtiers are creating a plan to ship Harry and Meghan to Africa away from the media (let me not start on the ignorance of THAT) because they're too popular, it just makes the whole RF look really bad. I read about the optics all the time here. Well, the optics here aren't good, at all.
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:10 AM
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The point being, whoever leaked this story,
Why does it have to be a leak...?
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:13 AM
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The point being, whoever leaked this story, is just very bad at PR. At this point it makes absolutely no sense. It doesn't sound there has been discussions WITH Meghan and Harry at all. She is days from having a baby, they just moved to FC, newly renovated dream home, and Meghan has to wait good few more years for citizenship of UK.

Leaking an article saying, that courtiers are creating a plan to ship Harry and Meghan to Africa away from the media (let me not start on the ignorance of THAT) because they're too popular, it just makes the whole RF look really bad. I read about the optics all the time here. Well, the optics here aren't good, at all.
Or it is what I said yesterday, this was devised to find a leak. Because none of it makes sense.
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:18 AM
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Why does it have to be a leak...?
Roya actually named names who were involved in crafting this plan. All of whom could easily rubbish her story. They haven't. This wasn't a "royal sources say" kind of story. Imho someone tipped Roya.
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:19 AM
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Or it is what I said yesterday, this was devised to find a leak. Because none of it makes sense.
HORRIBLE timing for that. Like I said, imho, very bad PR, terrible optics.
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