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Old 12-30-2018, 07:44 AM
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You are correct, the Queen and her family must remain neutral in all things political, it is a major part of our constitution. It is not up to Meghan to come in and whip things up or change things, if she didn't know what she was getting in to she should have done her homework better. I am actually a bit fed up of Meghan losing her voice, being silenced, if you don't like the heat get out of the kitchen.
I think Meghan knows very well that she's restricted on tackling issues and speaking out on them that are political in nature or divisive or controversial. She may not be able to speak out so much but the reality is that actions speak louder than words.
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Old 12-30-2018, 08:32 AM
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While there can be political aspects involved, feminism at its core is just women’s rights and equality of the sexes-something many do not see as political but as a basic right of women.
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Old 12-30-2018, 09:48 AM
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Feminism itself (equality and equal rights for women) is not political. However it is used by many as a political tool or in various political ways. IMO there is nothing worse than dealing with rabid feminists ...however I do not consider Meghan to be one of those, she's never behaved in that manner and seems very rational in her views of it.


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Old 12-30-2018, 10:01 AM
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IMO there is nothing worse than dealing with rabid feminists ...
IMO never is nothing worse that rabid anything.. it seems that lately though, with the metoo movement, etc, all women need to pay the price for a very small (loud) group of idiots.
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Old 12-30-2018, 10:11 AM
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Meghan is just getting settled into her royal role and there's going to be trial and errors along the way. That's what happens when one is human. She'll be announcing some of her patronages soon and that, more or less, is what is going to define her role rather than any faux pas she may make.
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Old 12-30-2018, 10:13 AM
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Let's move on from discussing Protocols here, there is another thread where that topic can be discussed. In that regard, please also leave the rules of protocols for the Palace to decide upon.
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Old 12-30-2018, 10:36 AM
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How is equality of genders political? Especially this day and age in the western world? Most developed countries have equal rights laws in place in some form. The issue now is social norms and biases.
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Old 12-30-2018, 11:03 AM
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The Queen has been on the throne so long that what she does, what she wears and how she does things have been the "normal" for almost 67 years. We don't know any different. However, I'd be the last person to suggest that HM, The Queen would be so adamant that all her female family members that works as a team end up being MiniHMs.

There are certain protocols in place and they are there for a good reason. I don't believe, though, that its so restrictive that each lady must check off a list as she dons her attire for the day or can't wear something differently than HM does. Can you imagine any of them walking around in the Queen's wardrobe.

Its the uniqueness of Meghan that is her greatest appeal to the public and the last thing HM would want to do is stifle that or attempt to change and mold her into a duchess marionette.

Meghan is just getting settled into her royal role and there's going to be trial and errors along the way. That's what happens when one is human. She'll be announcing some of her patronages soon and that, more or less, is what is going to define her role rather than any faux pas she may make.
Right, but I hope folks will understand that The Queen comes from a different time and just used to doing things that reflect that time. Some things aren’t enforced on the royal ladies of today.

We gotta allow Meghan to not only carve out her own path, but let her be herself. The worst thing the public, media and Palace officials can do is try to place high unattainable standards on her shoulders or on any other senior royal. Judging from the past; it all leads to massive stress and disastrous outcomes.
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Old 12-30-2018, 11:17 AM
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How is equality of genders political? Especially this day and age in the western world? Most developed countries have equal rights laws in place in some form. The issue now is social norms and biases.
It is used as a political tool by many.


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Old 12-30-2018, 11:24 AM
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It is used as a political tool by many.


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Yeah, some, but Meghan wonít.
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Old 12-30-2018, 11:26 AM
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I don't think anyone here has said she will.


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Old 12-30-2018, 11:31 AM
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Hopefully, the new year will bring the reveal of her patronages. I saw the other day that Angelina Jolie will be executive producing a BBC children’s show that will focus on education and empowerment worldwide. I wondered if Meghan could participate or contribute to the show since it will go outside of the UK to some Commonwealth countries.
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Old 12-30-2018, 11:38 AM
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To be honest, I don't think we'll see Meghan with Angelina Jolie on TV. It would send the wrong idea that Meghan is still aiming for "celebrity" mode. That's my take on it anyways.

Rather than a television show, I expect Meghan's list to include charities and organizations of which she will become their patron and get involved with them.
Keeping it royal is going to be a mainstay for Meghan.
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Old 12-30-2018, 11:39 AM
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To be honest, I don't think we'll see Meghan with Angelina Jolie on TV. It would send the wrong idea that Meghan is still aiming for "celebrity" mode. That's my take on it anyways.

Rather than a television show, I expect Meghan's list to include charities and organizations of which she will become their patron and get involved with them.
Keeping it royal is going to be a mainstay for Meghan.
Well, The Countess of Wessex was just seen with Ms Jolie on an official engagement. The Cambridge’s had a meeting with her at their home at Kensington Palace. So I don’t think anything wrong if Meghan meets up with her at some point as well.

It’s just that people have to get over this thing about it being bad that an actress has become an actual senior royal.
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Old 12-30-2018, 12:28 PM
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To be honest, I don't think we'll see Meghan with Angelina Jolie on TV. It would send the wrong idea that Meghan is still aiming for "celebrity" mode. That's my take on it anyways.

Rather than a television show, I expect Meghan's list to include charities and organizations of which she will become their patron and get involved with them.
Keeping it royal is going to be a mainstay for Meghan.
Angelina isnít appearing in the show. Sheís producing it. Her influence, like Meghanís, would be behind the scenes.
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Old 12-30-2018, 01:07 PM
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Ahhh.... I read your post too fast and got it all wrong it seems. Behind the scenes perhaps is a horse of a different color. I suppose it would have to be run up the flagpole with the Queen and TPTB to see if it was an acceptable thing for Meghan to do.

One thing that may stand in the way of approval though just might be that the program will have advertisements and British royals shy away from being connected to merchandising.

Then again, what do I know? My eyes are seeming to read things right even today.
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Old 12-30-2018, 01:45 PM
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Ahhh.... I read your post too fast and got it all wrong it seems. Behind the scenes perhaps is a horse of a different color. I suppose it would have to be run up the flagpole with the Queen and TPTB to see if it was an acceptable thing for Meghan to do.

One thing that may stand in the way of approval though just might be that the program will have advertisements and British royals shy away from being connected to merchandising.

Then again, what do I know? My eyes are seeming to read things right even today.
I would imagine the monies made off advertisements would be viewed similar to the monies made off the cookbook. It's all well and good because the direct proceeds would go to a charity or social cause. Or it could be stipulated as such, as the case may be.

I would imagine we'll hear about Meghan's choices in the end of January or early February. It'll be interesting, because they're likely to announce and have 6-8 weeks and then she'll be on maternity leave. I wonder how much behind the scenes there will be during the maternity leave time, to help her establish her place. Or will they wait until then perhaps?
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I guess it will depend too on how much maternity time she actually takes.


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Old 12-30-2018, 02:10 PM
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My guess is that she'll go out similar to Catherine, this last year, mid-March, and we'll see her at Trouping, and then she'll come back full time, following the summer holiday. An April baby makes maternity leave Apr-Aug at minimum. And maybe ease back in. It's their first baby, I suspect they'll want some time to adjust and enjoy. But with new patronages, she'll probably be "working" and just make it behind the scenes.
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