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07-06-2019, 07:45 PM
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Forget about William's smile, what I can't understand is why Harry looks so scruffy at his firstborn son's christening. Says a lot about him that he couldn't make the effort!
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 Uggh....why can't people just be happy for them on this beautiful day? There is no reason see this type of stuff on a day when the Archie was welcomed into the CoE. Harry wore what he wanted and had his reasons but to say he couldn't make an effort is just wrong. Especially when it is clear the man is over the moon about that little boy.
On a positive note it was nice seeing the Spencer family represented as well, they mean a lot to Harry and from the engagement interview seemed like they were very welcoming of Meghan and will be the same way with little Archie.
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07-06-2019, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Soula
Forget about William's smile, what I can't understand is why Harry looks so scruffy at his firstborn son's christening. Says a lot about him that he couldn't make the effort!
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What exactly is scruffy, other than maybe his choice of shoes? His suit is a normal summer suit.
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07-06-2019, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile
What exactly is scruffy, other than maybe his choice of shoes? His suit is a normal summer suit.
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I agree. I liked the suit. Especially the lighter color. Now those shoes, I wouldn’t mind if he burned them. But I have a feeling they are the new blue suit.
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07-06-2019, 07:57 PM
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I love Doria's hat. Actually I love Doria's whole outfit and color -
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07-06-2019, 08:24 PM
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I love the pictures that have been released and was so happy to see yet another black and white one to add to the collage of personal and intimate Sussex photos.
To be honest, I didn't even really notice too much what the people wore. My eyes were drawn mostly to the faces of the people in the photos. The family one was actually a generic type formal portrait kind so posed and most people don't emote overly much for formal family portraits. The black and white photo of mom and dad and Archie oozed the closeness and the intimacy of family.
Just one last word about the baptismal certificate. I'm including information on how *anyone* can apply to access the Royal Archives and perhaps peruse Archie's baptismal certificate. I don't think it would be an easy thing to get permission though.
https://www.rct.uk/collection/about-...lection/access
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07-06-2019, 08:27 PM
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There were 25 guests. And 7 in the photo. Some of the windsors may have been at the christening. Not all 18 other guests would be godparents. Charles siblings would not have been in the photo either way. Just like the Cambridge christening photos it's just immediate family. As Diana's sisters, Harry had his aunts stand in her place. Just like when they left the church at the wedding. Charles is there, he doesn't need one or all his siblings to stand in for him.
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If I were to guess, I would say that the Mountbatten-Windsors (namely Anne, Edward and Andrew) were not at the christening as the event was for Prince Harry's immediate family and friends primarily. They were not at the christenings of the Cambridge kids either.
Diana's sisters were there because either they were godmothers (no need to guess if H&M actually told us as they should have !), or because Harry is indeed closer to them than he is to his father's siblings. Again, if the latter is true, I doubt Anne, Andrew or Edward would care. They are not close to Charles either.
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07-06-2019, 08:57 PM
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Doria looked amazing. So regal.
The B&W photo is my favorite. The love they have for each other and Archie is so palpable.
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07-06-2019, 08:58 PM
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It would have been nice if the Cambridge children had been included in the family picture.
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07-06-2019, 09:10 PM
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It would have been nice if the Cambridge children had been included in the family picture.
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I don't think they were present.
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07-06-2019, 09:29 PM
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I think some of us may be projecting our own family issues onto the Windsor-Mountbatten family.
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07-06-2019, 09:33 PM
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Wonder how long Doria had been there. I guess she left her house in the middle of the night and had a private entrance to LAX and a lot of PET . and a private exit at Heathrow or Gatwick. She looks really nice and I wonder that broche she has on her coat from where is it? It might look subreal for her now to be so many times in Windsor and now through her daughter related to the royal familly
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07-06-2019, 10:11 PM
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Roya Nikkah is reporting that one of Archie's godfathers was Charlie van Straubenzee. An unsurprising choice.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...yone-nmhg7fxjr
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07-06-2019, 10:35 PM
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I like the fact that the Lily Font was used. Tradition is important.
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07-06-2019, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ashelen
Wonder how long Doria had been there. I guess she left her house in the middle of the night and had a private entrance to LAX and a lot of PET . and a private exit at Heathrow or Gatwick. She looks really nice and I wonder that broche she has on her coat from where is it? It might look subreal for her now to be so many times in Windsor and now through her daughter related to the royal familly
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It all depends. Sometimes people just luck out. Even Meghan wasn’t pictured every time she flew from Toronto or London. Although sometimes the paparazzi catches them. This week is high travel time, she could very well simply blended in more with more people at the airport.
The more I look at Archie, the less certain I am about who his features take after.
Btw, with that elaborate gown, I’m always in fear that the baby will slip out of the parent’s arm. Maybe it’s just because I’m not used to holding babies.
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07-06-2019, 10:55 PM
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I think it is a great picture! Everyone looks proud and happy. With respect to William's expression, photos capture a split second in time. The photographer probably took many pictures and Harry and Meghan choose the one that made the two of them look the best. I have one sister who always looks great in photos and, when we take family pictures, the rest of us have to find the ones in which we look the best, and it is a different photo for everyone.
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07-06-2019, 11:02 PM
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So, if Archie is "not royal and a private citizen' as some posters claim here, why did he have all the trappings of a royal christening including being baptized by the Archbishop of Canterbury in a royal chapel using the silver gilt Lily Font, water from the River Jordan, and the ivory Honiton lace and satin gown used for all royal babies’ baptisms since the reign of Queen Victoria?
And, as a private citizen, why is his baptism certificate not being kept in the local parish register where it can be seen by anyone according to law upon paying a modest fee ? Instead, Dickie Arbiter is telling us that his baptism record will be kept separately at Windsor Castle to be made " available to historians" at some unspecified point in the future.
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07-06-2019, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mbruno
So, if Archie is "not royal and a private citizen' as some posters claim here, why did he have all the trappings of a royal christening including being baptized by the Archbishop of Canterbury in a royal chapel using the silver gilt Lily Font, water from the River Jordan, and the ivory Honiton lace and satin gown used for all royal babies’ baptisms since the reign of Queen Victoria?
And, as a private citizen, why is his baptism certificate not being kept in the local parish register where it can be seen by anyone according to law upon paying a modest fee ? Instead, Dick Arbiter is telling us that his baptism record will be kept separately at Windsor Castle to be made " available to historians" at some unspecified point in the future.
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As I recall weren't Zara, Peter, Peter's kids and Zara's kids baptized wearing the Honiton gown? None of them are Royal.
I don't believe Archie is a private citizen at this point. He has the titles and will become HRH when Charles is King..nothing indicates the titles were declined...they simply deferred using the titles at this time from how I understand it.
His baptism records are being handled in the same manner as the Cambridge children's were.
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07-06-2019, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pranter
As I recall weren't Zara, Peter, Peter's kids and Zara's kids baptized wearing the Honiton gown? None of them are Royal.
I don't believe Archie is a private citizen at this point. He has the titles and will become HRH when Charles is King..nothing indicates the titles were declined...they simply deferred using the titles at this time from how I understand it.
His baptism records are being handled in the same manner as the Cambridge children's were.
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Can’t remember them all, but I remember seeing a picture of Peter holding one of his girls in that christening gown. We don’t know how their baptism records are stored as we’ve never seen them either.
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07-06-2019, 11:27 PM
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Peter, Zara and their children are not HRHs, or have titles, but they are in the line of succession and are members of the royal family. I think they are #14 through 20.
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07-07-2019, 12:10 AM
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That man forfeited his rights as a father and grandfather by selling out his daughter. Don't share that toxic man's words. He has himself to blame.
Delightful pictures and a very handsome wee baby. His chubby cheeks and expressive eyes. The Sussexes are so cheesy naming their red haired son Archie though lol! Here's hoping that he doesn't get teased for a comic book character ��.
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