Birth of Lilibet “Lili” Diana Mountbatten-Windsor: June 4, 2021

[Prinsara]

Has the official site been updated with the line of succession?

[Anna1519]

What a beautiful name and a lovely tribute to HM. I also recall that Doria's nickname for Meghan was "Flower" so perhaps it works both ways. Archie and Lili go quite well together. So thrilled for Harry, Meghan, Archie, and Doria.

[Heavs]

Originally Posted by ladongas

Really? That seems very unlikely.

From the wording it could go either way. I think they probably found out a bit before but maybe not much. It's a pretty generic announcement compared to Eugenie's:

https://www.royal.uk/announcement-bi...99s-first-baby

Definitely no easels outside Buckingham Palace - apart from anything else, they removed the one announcing Prince Philip's death because people were crowding round it and they got stressed about social distancing.

Good point.

[Kataryn]

Originally Posted by Archduchess Zelia

Didn't she oppose Andrew and Sarah naming Beatrice "Annabel"? If she could oppose that, surely she could tell H&M if "she was less than pleased" that they would use Lilibet.

Come to think of that (if it is true at all), didn't Andrew and Sarah befriend Lady Annabel Goldsmith, who was pretty notorious back then?

I wouldn't want a princess of the Uk being named after a nightclub as well, but yeah...

"The response of many" Random people on the internet's opinions – especially in spaces where there's generally great animosity towards H&M – have absolutely no relevance whatsoever in terms of what the "better" way to honour QEII is. She's H&M's child and they decided the best way to honour QEII was to use Lilibet.

Yes, I agree. It's one thing to critize them for what they do or don't for their living, but certainly it should be their right to name their baby as they want to? They didn't name her "princess better than Charlotte MW" and called her Prinny or Charlie, after all.


And I can't even imagine how HM really feels about the naming of a little girl that will grow up in a world so completely different from what she has known all of her life! Harry and Meghan wanted to honour HM and his mother Diana (and it is IMHO the right to a son from a titles marriage to think of his father and mother by the titles they held when he was born, even if that changed later on). I like that!

[soapstar]

Congratulations to the Sussexes on the birth of their daughter. I’m glad mother and baby are doing well.

I’m not a fan of the name Lilibet, but Lili is nice. I’m a little surprised they didn’t include Doria’s name.

Originally Posted by Heavs

I'm trying not to read anything into that. But it's probably just a quick initial announcement and there might be a more detailed one later. I was wondering if we'll get a "HM was asked and is delighted to give permission for the name" officially in the next few days.

I guess there won't be an easel outside BP this time?

Yeah, I’m not reading anything into it either. Today is the 77th anniversary of D-Day, so I think BP is focused on that. We might get a longer statement tomorrow.

ETA: The Cambridge’s just tweeted this:

We are all delighted by the happy news of the arrival of baby Lili. Congratulations to Harry, Meghan and Archie.

[ACO]

Clarence House posts on Baby Lili

https://twitter.com/ClarenceHouse/st...14894894661638

[soapstar]

Seems they all decided to send their congratulations at the same time. Here’s the tweet from the Royal Family account.

https://twitter.com/RoyalFamily/stat...14927236841474

[SLV]

Happy to hear that Meghan and their little girl are doing well and are happy at home.

[Kellydofc]

Glad baby and mother are well but I admit the name feels like a huge grab for attention or to keep a place in granny's will. It also seems like a slap in the face to the Queen after all the stunts they've pulled the last two-three years. I wish I could think the name was well intentioned but I really can't.

[Leopoldine]

I'm glad mother and baby daughter are healthy and well.

I don't like the first name. I think it's disrespectful, tone-deaf and also very awkward for HM. One wonders if Harry and his wife have already trademarked "Lilibet" in the US.

When I see the name in print, I cannot move beyond the off-putting hubris of the parents.

[An Ard Ri]

Had any members guessed the name correctly?
And not in a million years would I have.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by An Ard Ri

Had any members guessed the name correctly?
And not in a million years would I have.

I think most people guessed Diana and a lot of people mentioned Lily. Lilibet no..

Originally Posted by Prinsara

Considering Harry and Meghan are no longer affiliated with the British monarchy, what makes you think they had to ask permission?

I doubt if they asked permission.

[Kataryn]

Originally Posted by Kellydofc

Glad baby and mother are well but I admit the name feels like a huge grab for attention or to keep a place in granny's will. It also seems like a slap in the face to the Queen after all the stunts they've pulled the last two-three years. I wish I could think the name was well intentioned but I really can't.

I wonder, though why we accept the name "Elizabeth" for a girl as a tribute to HM, when no polite person calls her "Elizabeth" at all, her family use "Lilibet" and all the others use HM. I mean, how many of us use "Kate" instead of Catherine for HRH The Duchess of Cambridge?And now the grandson of a lady called "LIlibet" in her family uses that to name his daughter who won't probably ever be queen and it's not okay?

[lady of hay]

Originally Posted by An Ard Ri

Had any members guessed the name correctly?
And not in a million years would I have.

I had guessed that Diana would be in there . I did think they might have used Philippa , as a nod to Prince Phillip .

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Kataryn

I wonder, though why we accept the name "Elizabeth" for a girl as a tribute to HM, when no polite person calls her "Elizabeth" at all, her family use "Lilibet" and all the others use HM. I mean, how many of us use "Kate" instead of Catherine for HRH The Duchess of Cambridge?And now the grandson of a lady called "LIlibet" in her family uses that to name his daughter who won't probably ever be queen and it's not okay?

her family and intimate friends may call her Lilibet.. but I'm sure she has other less intimate friends who call her Elizabeth..and the rest of the world call her by her title. if Harry wanted to pay tribute to his grandmother why not use her proper name?

[kalnel]

So last month the Queen was neglectful and unfeeling of Harry, and this month he's naming his daughter after her. (Sort of.)

Why didn't they just follow their hearts and name her "Diana ATM Mountbatten-Windsor?"

[Denville]

Originally Posted by kalnel

So last month the Queen was neglectful and unfeeling of Harry, and this month he's naming his daughter after her. (Sort of.)

Why didn't they just follow their hearts and name her "Diana ATM Mountbatten-Windsor?"

I really dont know why they didn't pick a name that they liked, if Lily was that name use it.. and then add the names of both her grandmothers..

[Curryong]

How do we know the Queen isn’t highly delighted that her great-granddaughter is going to have her childhood name? Why regard it as an insult?

And CH, KP and The Royal Family Twitter accounts sent warm congratulations very quickly. As did Boris Johnson and others. They were happy for this little family.

[MissJanet]

Wonderful news. But the name is just so ... not very subtle.

Not that unexpected from the Sussexes, but still...

[Heavs]

Originally Posted by An Ard Ri

Had any members guessed the name correctly?
And not in a million years would I have.

There were discussions IIRC because members pointed out their love of nicknames as regular names, so Lilibet was discussed along with Lily or Betty etc. But I think most assumed they wouldn't go for something so intimate or obvious.