Birth of Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor: May 6, 2019

[Hallo girl]

Originally Posted by jacqui24

I didn’t say it wasn’t a big event, as in important, in US. It’s just mostly a private event. The christening is an event for the child, although more so a decision made by parents, whereas the baby shower is about celebrating the first time a woman is about to become a mother. And since my direct relationship is with the parent, that’s where I’d more likely go. Different for godparents.

I would be delighted to be invited to a child's christening even if not one of the god parents. The shower on the other hand wouldnt bother me. Just different views.
As for god parents, I have no thoughts at all, agree with regards the Beckham's, they like others were at the wedding via their link to charity, so cannot take that as a clue.

[ACO]

Originally Posted by muriel

It will be interesting to see which celebrities get invited to the christening. Oprah, Gayle, the Clooney's, Beckhams?

Yawn.

If anyone of the friends attended it would be Heather, Genevieve, Lucy, Lindsay, Benita...these snide comments are so predictable and boring.

Cute picture of Archie released for Father's Day. What a special day for Harry. I hope he is having the best one ever.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Hallo girl

I would be delighted to be invited to a child's christening even if not one of the god parents. The shower on the other hand wouldnt bother me. Just different views.
As for god parents, I have no thoughts at all, agree with regards the Beckham's, they like others were at the wedding via their link to charity, so cannot take that as a clue.

The shower just appears to be a gift giving party...

[Hallo girl]

Originally Posted by Denville

The shower just appears to be a gift giving party...

I agree with that sentiment, any I have been aware of has been all about the gifts.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by Denville

The shower just appears to be a gift giving party...

The idea originated as helping new parents get things the baby would need. That’s why it’s typically only for the first baby. Although it’s certainly grown since then. As have the idea of it. Most of the showers I’ve been to are more about celebrating someone becoming a parent as the value of the gifts often doesn’t cover the expenses of the shower. And some even have gifts that are more sentimental than valuable.

Although it does depend on the situation of the parents. I have a friend who recently attended a baby shower for a distant relative who is about to become a teenage mother, and they did load up on the gifts that are necessities for a baby since they need all the help they can get.

[Hallo girl]

Originally Posted by jacqui24

Personally, not something I’d travel for unless I’m the godparent. Even if I’m close to the parents. It’s just not an occasion for huge celebrations. And yes, I would travel for a baby shower and to visit the baby at a mutually convenient time.

I would be surprised if anybody declined an invitation to this christening even if not a god parent, without a really important reason.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Hallo girl

I would be surprised if anybody declined an invitation to this christening even if not a god parent, without a really important reason.

Presumably then Meg wont be inviting many people other than her mother...

[ACO]

Originally Posted by Denville

The shower just appears to be a gift giving party...

It is a celebration of becoming parents. Do people bring gifts? Sure. My cousin did a supply collection (hers was around Christmas) where to celebrate her we also helped another child in need. People do all sorts of things but it is mostly about expressing love to the new parents.

But yes this is likely were culture clashes come into play.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by Hallo girl

I would be surprised if anybody declined an invitation to this christening even if not a god parent, without a really important reason.

I didn’t say decline an invitation for no reason. Long distance travel is a reason as it take a lot longer than an afternoon plus jet lag and everythin else. In the old days, even royal godparents don’t always attend christenings and have stand ins.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by jacqui24

I didn’t say decline an invitation for no reason. Long distance travel is a reason as it take a lot longer than an afternoon plus jet lag and everythin else.

but Meg went all the way to N York for a baby shower and I imagine her friends travelled long distances to meet her there....

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by Denville

but Meg went all the way to N York for a baby shower and I imagine her friends travelled long distances to meet her there....

And that included more than an afternoon. Even then, not all of her friends were there. I can only imagine the difficulty in trying to get everyone’s schedule together. People do have lives outside of royalty and tend to put their own responsibilities ahead. I find royal watching world often forget that. New York is also a good hub for that group as a good number of them already live there at least part time and it’s an easy flight from rest of US and Toronto. With the exception of Meghan and Amal, others had a much shorter flight. I think most either lived in NYC or a short (think shorter than London) flight away.

My original point is still that the shower is to celebrate your friend becoming a parent. And christening is really for the baby whom the person might not have a direct relationship with.

[ACO]

Originally Posted by Denville

Presumably then Meg wont be inviting many people other than her mother...

Who else needs to be there except her mother and the god parents? I can see people like Lucy and Lindsay attending as they live in London though it is a very good chance Lindsay will be there anyways as a god parent.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by ACO

Who else needs to be there except her mother and the god parents? I can see people like Lucy and Lindsay attending as they live in London though it is a very good chance Lindsay will be there anyways as a god parent.

Lindsay is Jewish, so she can’t be a godparent unless she has converted since her marriage. Her husband is Anglican. They had an interfaith ceremony when they married.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by CTchic

Lizzie Cundy was on Talk Radio being interviewed by Dan Wootton promoting her book. She had spoken to Adam Bidwell (did not mention name but was stupid enough to describe him) and he said Meghan made Harry drop all of his old friends. Harry's non celeb friends are very connected people so they know people that work in the media. Hence all of the negative press surrounding Meghan. Only a handful of Meghan's friends have spoken to the media and it was in defence of Meghan which I can't blame them for.

Just sounds like gossip to me.

[ACO]

Originally Posted by Hallo girl

Do you think Meghan will offer an olive branch to her father, he has been noticeable by his silence since the birth of Archie. He is maybe trying to build bridges.

Why? He did his damage. Meghan needs to just focus on her own family. The Markles are the Markles and she is best away from their toxicity.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by ACO

Who else needs to be there except her mother and the god parents? I can see people like Lucy and Lindsay attending as they live in London though it is a very good chance Lindsay will be there anyways as a god parent.

generally speaking as he's beign welcomed into the Christian family, most people would think it was nice to have friends and family there..

[ACO]

Originally Posted by Denville

generally speaking as he's beign welcomed into the Christian family, most people would think it was nice to have friends and family there..

Friends and family will be there.

[Erin9]

Originally Posted by jacqui24

I didn’t say decline an invitation for no reason. Long distance travel is a reason as it take a lot longer than an afternoon plus jet lag and everythin else. In the old days, even royal godparents don’t always attend christenings and have stand ins.

Exactly. And the travel expense. Not to mention the almost inevitable need for time off work if it is overseas. And in the US, that is a much bigger issue, since many people don’t get more than 10 days off in a year, if that. Unlike Europe.

[TLLK]

Originally Posted by Denville

generally speaking as he's beign welcomed into the Christian family, most people would think it was nice to have friends and family there..

This is the baby's first sacrament so IMO it is a big deal and I would definitely expect family and friends there especially if they've not yet met the baby.

[Erin9]

Originally Posted by TLLK

This is the baby's first sacrament so IMO it is a big deal and I would definitely expect family and friends there especially if they've not yet met the baby.

It depends on how big the Christening is to begin with. It seems British ones lately have been fairly small gatherings in terms of both family and friends invited.