Birth of Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor: May 6, 2019 - Page 59

Elenath · #**1161** 05-20-2019, 03:55 PM

That doesn’t really answer the question though. Is there a need to know?

Perhaps Meghan chose a doctor who preferred not to have his/her name plastered all over the media incl. photo’s, cv, etc. And if that is the case this doctor has a right to privacy. The public’s desire to know irrelevant information is not more important than someone’s right to privacy. If that is what they prefer. And for something as intimate as a birth Meghan has the right to chose her doctor even if it means his or her name is not published.

HereditaryPrincess · #**1162** 05-20-2019, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudolph

I wonder why they didn't tell us the doctors. No doctor in the history of royal births has been 'harrassed' so I don't understand the need for secrecy.

There was the sad death of one of Prince George's midwives/nurses (can't remember what her role was in the little prince's birth) back in 2013 after a prank call was made to the hospital IIRC. Whilst there is the case of historical records I don't think there's a necessity to release the names of the doctors who were present at the birth. "At least" we have the location (from the media's point of view).

Rudolph · #**1163** 05-20-2019, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HereditaryPrincess

There was the sad death of one of Prince George's midwives/nurses (can't remember what her role was in the little prince's birth) back in 2013 after a prank call was made to the hospital IIRC. Whilst there is the case of historical records I don't think there's a necessity to release the names of the doctors who were present at the birth. "At least" we have the location (from the media's point of view).

She wasn't connected to the birth at all. She just happened to answer the phone that day

The birth team for all three births was released. In fact in 2016 Catherine had a BP garden party to thank everyone. Over 20 people attended

HereditaryPrincess · #**1164** 05-20-2019, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudolph

She wasn't connected to the birth at all. She just happened to answer the phone that.

The birth team for all three births was released. In fact in 2016 Catherine had a BP garden party to than everyone. Over 20 people attended

OK, it seems that I stand corrected - I had always thought she was involved in the medical team but I was wrong!

Countessmeout · #**1165** 05-20-2019, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HereditaryPrincess

There was the sad death of one of Prince George's midwives/nurses (can't remember what her role was in the little prince's birth) back in 2013 after a prank call was made to the hospital IIRC. Whilst there is the case of historical records I don't think there's a necessity to release the names of the doctors who were present at the birth. "At least" we have the location (from the media's point of view).

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She wasn't connected to the birth at all. She just happened to answer the phone that day

She wasn't at the hospital that day either. She died seven months prior.

The prank call happened in December. They announced the pregnancy so early because Kate had been admitted to the hospital due to HG. The radio called the hospital pretending to be the queen enquiring how Kate was doing. The nurse answered the phone and later took her own life.

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I wonder why they didn't tell us the doctors. No doctor in the history of royal births has been 'harrassed' so I don't understand the need for secrecy.

There has been no royal pregnancy until now that has been as insane as this one has been. The doula was being followed, or who they thought would be the doula. There were people on social media wanting to try and grab Meghan to prove she was not pregnant.

I wouldn't blame doctors not wanting their name out there. Conspiracy theorists who think she wasn't pregnant, or she gave birth much earlier, would be all over them.

There is no need to know who the doctor was anyways.

Cocoasneeze · #**1166** 05-21-2019, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudolph

I wonder why they didn't tell us the doctors. No doctor in the history of royal births has been 'harrassed' so I don't understand the need for secrecy.

Well, the doctor who helped deliver Meghan was sought out and harassed, and a bogus article was written about his non comments. The doula, that tabloids decided was going to help Meghan, was harassed. Meghan's good friend Daniel just revealed, that he'd been sent threats. So based on thus all, there's a good possibility the doctors helping Meghan would've been harassed too.

We don't need to know the names of the doctors, either, it's completely irrelevant information..

Hallo girl · #**1167** 05-21-2019, 05:41 AM

Historically, I am going back in time with this one, certain people had to be present at the birth of an heir to the throne, to ensure no replacements brought in by the back door. This changed to the home secretary in the adjoining room ( or somewhere in the building ). The doctors details were part of the transparency of the birth, it has now became part of tradition to announce the doctors names. By the way the politicians are no longer part of the deal. I do not see any public requirement for the doctors names to be provided. Not sure what harm it would have done, as I do not recall any stories re the doctors who delivered the other royal babies. It became a challenge for the media to try and find out. The place of birth was always going to become public knowledge at some point. Non story...

Iluvbertie · #**1168** 05-21-2019, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by HereditaryPrincess

There was the sad death of one of Prince George's midwives/nurses (can't remember what her role was in the little prince's birth) back in 2013 after a prank call was made to the hospital IIRC. Whilst there is the case of historical records I don't think there's a necessity to release the names of the doctors who were present at the birth. "At least" we have the location (from the media's point of view).

She wasn't involved in the birth at all. She was a nurse on duty when Catherine was admitted to hospital early in the pregnancy with the severe morning sickness. She put through the prank phone call from the Aussie DJs and consequently committted suicide (which is all the inquest has ruled with no blame attributed to any individual or organisation). That was in the December before George was born.

BaiSoSo · #**1169** 05-21-2019, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cocoasneeze

Well, the doctor who helped deliver Meghan was sought out and harassed, and a bogus article was written about his non comments. The doula, that tabloids decided was going to help Meghan, was harassed. Meghan's good friend Daniel just revealed, that he'd been sent threats. So based on thus all, there's a good possibility the doctors helping Meghan would've been harassed too.

We don't need to know the names of the doctors, either, it's completely irrelevant information..

Agreed, IT's unfortunate but I think a lot of the actions Harry and Meghan took with baby Archie had to do with security. It was reported that Harry got death threats after a certain article was written about Meghan and the cookbook. Who knows how many threats there are that we don't know about. The tabloids are looking for any information they can find on Meghan, so I can see how they would try to protect the delivery team and baby Archie as well.

Hallo girl · #**1170** 05-21-2019, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BaiSoSo

Agreed, IT's unfortunate but I think a lot of the actions Harry and Meghan took with baby Archie had to do with security. It was reported that Harry got death threats after a certain article was written about Meghan and the cookbook. Who knows how many threats there are that we don't know about. The tabloids are looking for any information they can find on Meghan, so I can see how they would try to protect the delivery team and baby Archie as well.

That is a very fair and valid point, which I had not considered.

ACO · #**1171** 05-21-2019, 12:39 PM

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The person thought to be Meghan's doula was. Doesn't matter if previous doctors were or not. And really, why does anyone need to know?

Exactly. They harassed this woman based off a tabloid rumor. They were wise to stay private especially since we know they went to the homes of doctors to ask them if they were part of the birth team. Who does that?!

Denville · #**1172** 05-21-2019, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocoasneeze

Well, the doctor who helped deliver Meghan was sought out and harassed, and a bogus article was written about his non comments. The doula, that tabloids decided was going to help Meghan, was harassed. Meghan's good friend Daniel just revealed, that he'd been sent threats. So based on thus all, there's a good possibility the doctors helping Meghan would've been harassed too.

We don't need to know the names of the doctors, either, it's completely irrelevant information..

so why have other royal mothers announced the names of their doctors?

Elenath · #**1173** 05-21-2019, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Denville

so why have other royal mothers announced the names of their doctors?

I don’t know. Does it matter? But the other mothers haven’t seen the vitriol Meghan has received over past 2 years. And releasing these names is not a requirement, so why should she. I don’t believe they’ve ever explained why they chose not to release them, I find it hard to believe they would make this choice for no good reason. So let’s give them the benefit of the doubt. Besides, it’s not information everyone is entitled to, even if others before them have released these names, and the public’s curiosity is insatiable so that’s not really a good reason either.

Denville · #**1174** 05-21-2019, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Elenath

I don’t know. Does it matter? But the other mothers haven’t seen the vitriol Meghan has received over past 2 years. And releasing these names is not a requirement, so why should she. I don’t believe they’ve ever explained why they chose not to release them, I find it hard to believe they would make this choice for no good reason. So let’s give them the benefit of the doubt. Besides, it’s not information everyone is entitled to, even if others before them have released these names, and the public’s curiosity is insatiable so that’s not really a good reason either.

I can't imagine that doctors objected to their names being released, since no royal doctor has before....

Elenath · #**1175** 05-21-2019, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Denville

I can't imagine that doctors objected to their names being released, since no royal doctor has before....

But the other royals did not the same type of harrasment. As far as I know the only one who came close was Kate.
And besides, we don’t know the reason. The doctors privacy might be, but we don’t know that, since no reason was given. I can’t imagine they’re just trying to be difficult. To me, they must have had a good reason, and yes, even “it’s none of anyones concern" is a good reason to me. Mainly because it’s true.

Jacknch · #**1176** 05-21-2019, 01:58 PM

Really I think the information as to which doctors assisted in Archie's birth isn't significant nor is it important. Even if we had such information it would have been as equally unimportant other than for miscellaneous information and factual detail.

I can think of no consequential reason why such information has not been given other than it falls under the category that the details surrounding Archie's birth would be kept private - and we are very well past that discussion as previously advised.

ACO · #**1177** 05-21-2019, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Denville

I can't imagine that doctors objected to their names being released, since no royal doctor has before....

Except the reporters said it was agreed between both parties. We have no idea if they didn’t want their names released. I’m sure they also didn’t appreciate the press bombarding them at their homes either. Just proving their point of privacy.

Just because others did it one way doesn’t mean it has to continue. Things eventually change just like the Lindo moment was new at one point too.

Rudolph · #**1178** 05-21-2019, 02:13 PM

Whoever she used it wasn't the royal doctors. Privacy? George's doctor even came out afterwards and made jokes with the press.

Here they are leaving the Lindo Wing. Dr Marcus Setchell is in the centre.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/...eg?imwidth=450

Cocoasneeze · #**1179** 05-21-2019, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Denville

so why have other royal mothers announced the names of their doctors?

I don't know. What I do know, is that this piece of information, and the reasons behind it aren't important. None of us or the press need to know the doctors names, or why they weren't released.

Osipi · #**1180** 05-21-2019, 02:45 PM

All I can say is that if Harry and Meghan thought it was pertinent to have their doctors attending the birth be known, it would be. It wasn't and I imagine if the couple wanted this to remain private, the doctors would have honored it no matter who they were.

This is a couple that seems to be on a path to controlling what is put out there for public consumption and doing it their way by their Instagram site. The media is more than welcome to cover their public roles but when it comes to their private, family life, they're going to have a tight fisted control over the content released. I kind of like it this way.