Birth of Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor: May 6, 2019

[Fijiro]

Originally Posted by Mirabel

As for Harrison, I can only think of the kid on the TV series Dexter. His name was Harrison.

I'm with you- I don't like the name at all.
But then, they didn't consult me!

I love the names.
for Archie - I think of Archie Manning, a great Football Quarterback and the father of two also great Football Quarterbacks Peyton Manning and Eli Manning.
For Harrison - I think of Harrison Ford - a great actor.

[Abbigail]

Originally Posted by Elenath

As a (self-proclaimed) feminist I really don't see why this is a problem. Seems like people are trying to find problems where there are none.

The name isn't feminist enough (not sure what the criteria are), she gave up her career to move abroad which isn't feminist, she took her husbands last name (again not feminist). Did I miss anything? And there I was thinking feminism is about giving women a choice and chances… How silly of me.

I was going to respond but you've stated the point well already. Thanks.

[Erin9]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

Archie is not acronym of Rachel. And Meghan doesn’t use the name Rachel, not even in her wedding vows.



Meghan’s fans will just have to accept that a self-proclaimed feminist agreed to name her child “ the. Son of Harry” as in some old patriarchal Viking society. They also chose a Germanic first name ( Archibald , or Archie). Very Northern European and with little connection to Meghan’s background, which is somewhat disappointing.

She can be a feminist and give him a middle name that honors his father. These aren’t mutually exclusive issues.

Not sure why it matters that his first name has no connection to Meghan’s background. They picked the name they liked. Like most parents.

I just love the pic of the great grand parents meeting Archie. They look so happy. I think it does have powerful symbolic value, but more importantly to me, it’s just a lovely candid family photo of everyone admiring the baby. Informal and personal.

Originally Posted by Elenath

As a (self-proclaimed) feminist I really don't see why this is a problem. Seems like people are trying to find problems where there are none.

The name isn't feminist enough (not sure what the criteria are), she gave up her career to move abroad which isn't feminist, she took her husbands last name (again not feminist). Did I miss anything? And there I was thinking feminism is about giving women a choice and chances… How silly of me.

Thank you. You hit the nail on the head by emphasizing it is about choice and chances.

[Abbigail]

Originally Posted by muriel

Given the couple's seeming desire to bring up their child privately, do you think they will release pictures at the time of the christening?

Given that they haven't said they want to raise him privately, I wouldn't assume anything. They seemed just fine with posting pics of him so far.

[Daenys]

Oh, so Harrison is anti-feminist name.
Now this is what we call "reach".

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Erin9

I think it does have powerful symbolic value, but more importantly to me, it’s just a lovely candid family photo of everyone admiring the baby. Informal and personal.

I completely agree with you. Symbolism aside, it is an intimate, family photograph, with happiness all around.

[Andr19]

There could be a photo with the grandparents, who are still in Germany��

[PtahHotep]

Originally Posted by Daenys

Oh, so Harrison is anti-feminist name.
Now this is what we call "reach".

I agree. :):)

And I specifically said Archie was considered by fans to be a CLOSE acronym of Rachel, not that it was an EXACT acronym of Rachel. It could be that they are "reaching" as well. Who knows. Just relaying information.

I do believe there might be something to the George/Archie story.

IF true (again), either George learnt the name from Harry and Meghan and appropriated it for himself or George came up with it himself and H & R decided to use it for their little one.

Or maybe it IS just reaching. Or maybe-------the name has meaning that proves they know what they are doing?

[Dman]

Originally Posted by PtahHotep

It appears that fans of the couple have "detected" something that may explain their choice of Archie as the first name-----apparently Archie is a "close acronym" of Rachel. Hmmmmmm.

Therefore, "Rachel and Harry's Son."

Don't know why she used her first name, but ok.

And IF true, this shows M & H's ingenuity and the confirmation that they know EXACTLY what they are doing.

Good show.



He also has the Markle nose, as others here have pointed out.

It’s still trying to get used to the name Archie. It’ll happen. Just like Louis.

[PtahHotep]

Originally Posted by Dman

It’s still trying to get used to the name Archie. It’ll happen. Just like Louis.

The only "thing" I had with Louis was that they spelled it the French way. I understand why (Louis Mountbatten).....still, "unpatriotic." LOL.

Aside from that, I had no problem with it.

I also have no problem with Archie or Harrison.

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by Fijiro

I love the names.
for Archie - I think of Archie Manning, a great Football Quarterback and the father of two also great Football Quarterbacks Peyton Manning and Eli Manning.
For Harrison - I think of Harrison Ford - a great actor.

And Archie Griffin--former American football running back and Ohio State University alumnus-the only college player ever to win the Heisman Trophy twice.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by PtahHotep

The only problem I had with Louis was that they spelled it the French way. I understand why (Louis Mountbatten).....still, "unpatriotic." LOL.

Aside from that, I had no problem with it.

I also have no problem with Archie or Harrison.

Whilst it may be the French way, it is also the way often used in the UK. I understand in the US, Lewis is often used, but that is not the case here.

[duchessrachel]

Originally Posted by Fem

'Master' and 'Mister' are the same thing - the only difference is that 'Master' is used with children. So when Archie grows up, he'll be known asMr. Archie Mountbatten-Windsor (if nothing changes, of course, but my point is, these are the same term just used with different age groups).


I thought so too - that we won't see the child much if at all. But now I'm starting to slowly doubt it. Leaving behind a fact that I can't imagine Harry leaving his bundle of joy for a few week long royal tour means we could see a glimps of little Archie here and there, but also their behavior since the birth. I think whole "we want privacy" was a bit blown out of proportion by the fandom and the press. Not only we got a photocall with a baby, which also included answering a few question that William didn't do after George, but also a picture with the Queen and DoE, so that's another extra bit we don't get with Cambridge children.

I'm begining to suspect it's more "we will do things our way" than "we'll keep the child completely private". I bet we'll get pictures from Christening, that in a year or two (maybe two) we'll see little Archie on the balcony during Trooping the colour and I wouldn't exclude the posibility we'll get birthday pictures too.

I totally agree. I posted the same thing in a previous post and was clear that I was not slamming the Cambridges and that I love the Cambridges. I was, like you, just pointing out how silly the press acted. However, my statement about the Cambridges got edited out. It really ticked me off. I am happy yours did not get edited out.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by muriel

Whilst it may be the French way, it is also the way often used in the UK. I understand in the US, Lewis is often used, but that is not the case here.

Louis is also used in US. But it's just pronounced as Lewis as well. In fact, I feel like I see more Louis/Luis than Lewis in US in the younger generations.

I think it's unusual to see an Archie in US. I've seen Archibald, and know Archie is used as a nickname. But even Archibald is rather unusual here. In fact, I think I've seen more Archibald as last name than first name. But I guess it's a bit more popular in UK.

[Pacific Poppy]

I adore the Disney “Pooh” cartoon. What a very special gift for little Archie and his parents.

[Hallo girl]

Originally Posted by duchessrachel

I totally agree. I posted the same thing in a previous post and was clear that I was not slamming the Cambridges and that I love the Cambridges. I was, like you, just pointing out how silly the press acted. However, my statement about the Cambridges got edited out. It really ticked me off. I am happy yours did not get edited out.

I thought William did say a few words when they brought George out of the hospital, not a statement like Harry but a couple of words. He didn't do it for the other two and the press were disappointed.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Hallo girl

I thought William did say a few words when they brought George out of the hospital, not a statement like Harry but a couple of words. He didn't do it for the other two and the press were disappointed.

That is correct, he did have a very brief chat, from some distance. It was not like the brief Q&A the Duke and Duchess of Sussex had with the Press.

[Hallo girl]

If any of the contributors on this site have children how would you feel if there was a bombardment of posts on a website discussing the rights and wrongs of the name. It is their business nobody else's . let it go.

[PtahHotep]

And now, another entry in the continuing saga of "Why did they do it?"--------

Daily Express online just came out with a claim that the REAL reason Archie was named the way he was was that it happens both Meghan and Senior were fans of Archie comics in her childhood------that in fact, Senior introduced Meghan to the comic-----that it holds a special place in her heart and this is her way of reaching out to him....OOOOOKKKKKKKKKK.
.Pretty big claim, I must say. LOL.

Just reporting what I've read.

[Lilyflo]

Originally Posted by Hallo girl

If any of the contributors on this site have children how would you feel if there was a bombardment of posts on a website discussing the rights and wrongs of the name. It is their business nobody else's . let it go.

I'd hate it & I'd also hate every single thing that goes with being any kind of public figure. Harry & Meghan are part of our royal family though & people are always going to discuss what they're doing in the public domain. I don't believe we should be discussing their private lives at all but anything that's public is open for comment.