Birth of Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor: May 6, 2019

[Grandma828]

I love the name Archie Harrison. Archie is cute for a child and he can use the more formal Harrison as an adult business man. Meaghan uses her middle name.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Frelinghighness

Princess Anne accepted the additional titel of princess royal which many poster did not know. She did not reject titles for herself, just her children.

I am not sure what many posters don't know? She never rejected titles for her children. Anne and Mark rejected a title for Mark and as a consequence their children aren't titled.

Unlike with a ducal title, there are special styles or titles attached for the children of the Princess Royal.

As far as Harry’s children, he is a royal duke and his children will be styled lords and ladies. Also, do not kill the goose that laid the golden egg, no matter if your mother was Diana, whom I adored

Harry literally announced that his child will be styled as a plain master Mountbatten-Windsor and not as lord/earl (of) Dumbarton.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by Zaira

very cute!
https://metro.co.uk/video/winnie-poo.../?ito=vjs-link

So, when I saw this earlier, I didn't realize it was officially released by Disney to celebrate Archie's birth.

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To celebrate the birth of Archie Mountbatten-Windsor, @Disney have created a special Winnie-the-Pooh animation as a gift for Harry and Meghan. The short was hand-painted in watercolour by Disney’s senior principal artist Kim Raymond. Really special🎨

https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1126580022150598657

[HereditaryPrincess]

Originally Posted by jacqui24

I saw that. It was offensive. The "apology" that followed was even MORE offensive if it's possible. I'm glad BBC took swift action. I couldn't see that picture was racist because my brain is not diseased? Seriously?

Couldn't agree more. If that was even an apology then he's very bad at them. I'm glad the BBC fired him - people in his position should know that even if they think such things, it's not acceptable to publicly post them. (I mean, it's not okay for anyone to tweet something so offensive, but especially people in Mr. Baker's position.) Racism such as this and racist "jokes" are still very common here in the UK sadly and things like this don't help at all. I was born in the '90s and whilst I'm white I vividly remember the awful racial slurs that were directed at mixed race and black children in my classes which were very poorly dealt with by the teachers (and I live in a very multicultural town in London).

[Rena M.]

Both Harry and Meghan are feminists, so I'm sure they are also against the law which states that only sons can inherit peerages.
Championing Women's Equality in Politics - Daughters' Rights
I can also imagine that they want Archie and their future child / children to be equals.

[sophie25]

Despite the double barrelled surname I imagine he will get called Archie Windsor as time goes by just as Lady Louise generally gets called only the Windsor part. The full surname is a bit of a mouthful.

[camelot23ca]

Originally Posted by muriel

The Sussex may have been the first to post it, but as you say, that image would only have been used with the consent of the Queen or her team. And that consent was, IMO, only provided as the Queen and her team could see the powerful message that was being sent.

Harry was very likely the only one of the Queen’s grandchildren who asked if a photo could be made public. You really think that if Peter Phillips, her eldest, (and long rumoured favourite), grandchild, had asked her to release a picture with him, Anne, and QEII’s first great grandchild, she’d have said no? Ok, maybe a five percent chance she’d have said no due to Peter not being royal but...

Do you honestly think that if William had asked permission to take and make public a photo of The Queen meeting the future King George as the future Kings Charles and William looked on she’d have REFUSED?

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by camelot23ca

Harry was very likely the only one of the Queen’s grandchildren who asked if a photo could be made public. You really think that if Peter Phillips, her eldest, (and long rumoured favourite), grandchild, had asked her to release a picture with him, Anne, and QEII’s first great grandchild, she’d have said no? Ok, maybe a five percent chance she’d have said no due to Peter not being royal but...

Do you honestly think that if William had asked permission to take and make public a photo of The Queen meeting the future King George as the future Kings Charles and William looked on she’d have REFUSED?

The real intriguing question is why Harry and/or Meghan felt they needed to release a picture of their son meeting the Queen when William, a probable future King, saw no need to do any of that for his firstborn son who most likely will be King too.

[American Observer7]

Harry and Meghan, said, "not at this time," via the palace which means the option is still on the table. The Queen wanted to do it but Archie's parents said no. The Queen did not refuse the little guy which is what I was saying... she wasn't going to.

I wish he had gotten it now, being the first biracial royal baby in the family. He is so adorable!!

[caethi]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

The real intriguing question is why Harry and/or Meghan felt they needed to release a picture of their son meeting the Queen when William, a probable future King, saw no need to do any of that for his firstborn son who most likely will be King too.

We can't ever know the answer to that, but it was a picture that included Megan's mother. If I were Harry and Megan, I would want a picture that included both sides of the family. It is a lovely picture...and the symbolism is profound.

[Gawin]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

The real intriguing question is why Harry and/or Meghan felt they needed to release a picture of their son meeting the Queen when William, a probable future King, saw no need to do any of that for his firstborn son who most likely will be King too.

They felt they *needed* to release the picture? How do you know that?

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by caethi

We can't ever know the answer to that, but it was a picture that included Megan's mother. If I were Harry and Megan, I would want a picture that included both sides of the family. It is a lovely picture...and the symbolism is profound.

I think the symbolism is the reason for the photo. The Queen and the DOE are showing support and inclusivity for the Sussex family and Meghan's mother.

[suztav]

I agree —- the Queen and Duke wanted to show their support.

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Gawin

They felt they *needed* to release the picture? How do you know that?

If they didn’t want to release it, it wouldn’t have been released. They could have had a private ” celebration as a family “ as they previously said they wanted to have before showing the baby to the public. In fact the same kind of private family celebration all other great-grandchildren of the Queen had with great-granny .

You may disagree , but the baby’s introduction in the Great Halll of Windsor Castle followed by the pictures of the Queen’s visit suggest to me a very media-savy Sussex couple . They may say they want privacy, but they sure look like they don’t plan to lay low / keep a low profile as other cadet children of monarchs like Anne or Edward do.

[CyrilVladisla]

Does Doria have any ancestors with the surname of Harrison?

[Pranter]

Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile

I know it is a typo but it is Fermoy, not Femroy.

Interesting that Harry's second cousin is Archie.

Oh darn typos! Thanks!


LaRae

[Gawin]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

If they didn’t want to release it, it wouldn’t have been released. They could have had a private ” celebration as a family “ as they previously said they wanted to have before showing the baby to the public. In fact the same kind of private family celebration all other great-grandchildren of the Queen had with great-granny .

You may disagree , but the baby’s introduction in the Great Halll of Windsor Castle followed by the pictures of the Queen’s visit suggest to me a very media-savy Sussex couple . They may say they want privacy, but they sure look like they don’t plan to lay low / keep a low profile as other cadet children of monarchs like Anne or Edward do.

You may be right but my question was how you knew Harry & Meghan felt they *needed* to release the picture which is what you stated in your original post. Now you've changed *need* to *want* which isn't the same. I need something out of necessity but I want something because I wish for it.

Needing to release the picture can imply they believe it's necessary to present themselves as a happy family (negative connotations). Wanting to release it can mean they simply wish to share a happy moment with the public, similar to the photographs of the Queen with her great-grandchildren we have already seen (positive connotations).

[Pranter]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

If they didn’t want to release it, it wouldn’t have been released. They could have had a private ” celebration as a family “ as they previously said they wanted to have before showing the baby to the public. In fact the same kind of private family celebration all other great-grandchildren of the Queen had with great-granny .

You may disagree , but the baby’s introduction in the Great Halll of Windsor Castle followed by the pictures of the Queen’s visit suggest to me a very media-savy Sussex couple . They may say they want privacy, but they sure look like they don’t plan to lay low / keep a low profile as other cadet children of monarchs like Anne or Edward do.

It was supposed to be on the steps outside where they took the wedding photos but due to the weather they moved it indoors.

Because they released a photo does not show they don't want privacy...it shows they want to control what is put out there just like the Cambridges do. They are just doing things a different way. No Lindo Wing day of birth but we will do a photocall and release a pic as well.



LaRae

[Kataryn]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

The real intriguing question is why Harry and/or Meghan felt they needed to release a picture of their son meeting the Queen when William, a probable future King, saw no need to do any of that for his firstborn son who most likely will be King too.

They probably felt it would be nicer than just the three of them on a more "public" pic. The relation to the queen (and Charles, of course) is what makes little Archie so interesting for so many people, so the queen they got.

[COUNTESS]

Originally Posted by PtahHotep

I totally disagree.
Alvin............seriously?????????

He would get tormented for the rest of his life with chipmunk jokes and people singing to his face "Christmas, Christmas, don't be late" and other such songs.

Alvin and the Chipmunks (I'm sure) is shown in the US.

So.

That would be a bad choice.


He also played a character named Archie Gates in an action movie in 1997 with Nicole Kidman.

Whoa.

Weird.

I never said I liked Alvin and you are right. But I think it is better than Archie, which at best is a nick name, and all I could think of was Archie Bunker or Archie Comics. Put together with Harrison, which makes no sense, as his father's name is Henry, not Harry, he sound like any kid. And if they want him to be any kid, then give up their tiles and move out of that large residence and live somewhere and raise him as any kid.