Birth of Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor: May 6, 2019 - Page 32

Mbruno · #**621** 05-08-2019, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Elenath

Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe Victoria was once considered “unqueenly”. Archie might not be up to everyone’s standards, but it’s just a name. I’m sure the BRF and it’s history will survive an “unprincely” name.

I think Archibald is a fine royal name, the problem with Archie is that it is not a name , but a short nickname for Archibald. They could have named him Archibald just as Harry was named Henry.

Daenys · #**622** 05-08-2019, 01:01 PM

Come on people. It could be worse. Like Jaxon, or Jasen, or Brayden, or Tylor...

Moonmaiden23 · #**623** 05-08-2019, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pranter

He may have a Royal parent(s) but I don't think he will ever be Prince Archie.

LaRae

No I don't think so either..but by fact of his birth he is the son, grandson, and great grandson of princes whether he holds the title of "Prince" or not.

Sigh....there are sooo many beautiful English Royal names out there, and the poor child will already be vulnerable with "Dumbarton" in his title.

But it's done.

Fem · #**624** 05-08-2019, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fijiro

"Master" because he is a boy child, when he becomes an adult, then he will be a "Mr." e.g. Mr. Peter Philipps. A girl child would be listed as "Miss" - eg. Miss Isla Philipps.

I think Mbruno asked why the boy isn't styled as a child of a Duke (that he is) - and we don't know the answer to that question. Probably some kind of decision was made and the child won't be styled like that.

Fijiro · #**625** 05-08-2019, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

No I don't think so either..but in fact of his birth he is the son, grandson, and great grandson of princes whether he holds the title of "Prince" or not.

Sigh....there are sooo many beautiful English Royal names out there, and the poor child will already be vulnerable with "Dumbarton" in his title.

But it's done.

He is still heir apparent to the Dukedom of Sussex

Biri · #**626** 05-08-2019, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mbruno

I think Archibald is a fine royal name, the problem with Archie is that it is not a name , but a short nickname for Archibald. They could have named him Archibald just as Harry was named Henry.

In fact I would prefer Prince Archibald Henry of Sussex.

loonytick · #**627** 05-08-2019, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mydeardrsattler

I'll be honest, I'm not a big fan.

I'm not fond of nicknames as full names as it is, and Archie feels like one of those names that every kid born in the last 5 years has, like how every other kid is called Jack. It's one of those names where you feel as though the parents went "it'll be so cute on a baby and a sweet old grandad!!" but didn't picture him as a 16 year old goth or a 45 year old businessman. (This is not directed at M&H specifically, just these sorts of names in general)

Except, as I've been reminded, if a name is common among a generation then by the time they become surly teens/powerful businessmen/sweet grandpas, there will be a lot of other surly teens/powerful businessmen/sweet grandpas with the same name so it won't seem so odd. What is an "old lady name" today once sounded impossibly trendy and youthful to our great-grandparents.

Fijiro · #**628** 05-08-2019, 01:08 PM

All I can think of is Archie Manning and Harrison Ford -

RoyalNight · #**629** 05-08-2019, 01:09 PM

Is master a child version of mister?

kathia_sophia · #**630** 05-08-2019, 01:09 PM

I like Harrison, it reminds me of Harrison Ford, which I am a fan of. Archie...Well, it's not good nor bad, but I guess it's kinda cute. I think it will grow on me eventually, as it did for Louis (never really liked the Cambridges choice for their 3rd child, but it grew on me over time).

There have been several times before when royal names grew on me when I didn't like them at first, such as Estelle, Oscar, Liam, George, Louis, Savannah, Adrienne. But the one that surprised me the most was Athena of Denmark...

BTW, just a question. It seems that Meghan and Harry want their son to be a private citizen, so that means that we won't get to see the pictures of his christening? Or his 1st birthday pictures?

Betsypaige · #**631** 05-08-2019, 01:10 PM

Can I just say how much I love that family photo? Seeing Harry and Meghan beaming over their little boy ...and the Queen and Prince Philip radiating sheer joy ...is just beautiful. I wish Charles could have been there - I can’t wait to see him with his new grandson.

I’m getting used to Archie - and I love him to bits already

tihkon2 · #**632** 05-08-2019, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RoyalNight

Is master a child version of mister?

Yes. It is.

sophie25 · #**633** 05-08-2019, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fijiro

He is still heir apparent to the Dukedom of Sussex

I don't think he will ever be titled. I think the Dukedom will revert back to the Crown on Harry's death. I also think that giving him no title at all is a bit drastic. Even the children of all the Queen's HRH cousins are Lords and Ladies and I'm sure he could have still lived his own life with that sort of title.

Nico · #**634** 05-08-2019, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fem

I think Mbruno asked why the boy isn't styled as a child of a Duke (that he is) - and we don't know the answer to that question. Probably some kind of decision was made and the child won't be styled like that.

I think the lack of style underlines very much the contradictions of the Sussexes, or let's say the impossible equation to resolve : living a private life while still performing royal duties.
You just can't cherry pick what's better in one life (the outrageous amount of privileges) and what's better in the other (the privacy of a "normal" life).
More headaches to come i'm afraid ...

Pranter · #**635** 05-08-2019, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

No I don't think so either..but by fact of his birth he is the son, grandson, and great grandson of princes whether he holds the title of "Prince" or not.

Sigh....there are sooo many beautiful English Royal names out there, and the poor child will already be vulnerable with "Dumbarton" in his title.

But it's done.

But there will be no Dumbarton title...he will simply be Master (later Mister) Archie Mountbatten-Windsor.

LaRae

wyevale · #**636** 05-08-2019, 01:18 PM

The name sounds like the son of a 'hipster' north London hedge fund manager...

Pranter · #**637** 05-08-2019, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Fem

That's a very interesting observation! Because on one hand, that's the exact way that Prince Anne chose for her children - no titles at all, but she has never accepted any title for herself and her husband.

I guess the point of accepting the Dukedom would be so that Meghan wouldn't be called Princess Henry... Or Princess Harry. I mean, I'm a Brit and used to that, but even for me it sounds bad.

What? Meghan is Princess Henry ..and she's also the Duchess of Sussex and whatever other female version of the various titles Harry has.

LaRae

JuliannaVictoria · #**638** 05-08-2019, 01:19 PM

It seems the announcement from Royal Reporters is that Archie will not use the subsidiary title AT THIS TIME. This to means that in the future, depending on the situation, title may be used. Just as HM bestowed new title onto Edward, the same can be done for Archie.

wyevale · #**639** 05-08-2019, 01:19 PM

Why did Ms Markle accept the title of a Royal Duchess if she is so averse to titles..???

Andr19 · #**640** 05-08-2019, 01:21 PM

Archie, ooooohhhhhhkay.
Well, if only they chose to live private life.
But those who cannot cope, be realistic about this childs chances in future with all this racism in british nobility, what if he turned out „coloured“, who would marry him.... the decision towards this woman means to do it from A to Z.
Hopefully times are getting better but at the moment, sorry, no��