Birth of Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor: May 6, 2019

[amaryllus]

Originally Posted by Pranter

It doesn't matter however the issue has been raised as to who the baby resembles ...you can hardly pretend the baby's mixed racial background doesn't exist.


LaRae

I can. Because I don’t make everything a racial issue, esp concerning a newborn. He is just a cute healthy baby and if he was Mongolian or Apache that would not define his intelligence, talents, character or role in the Family. Those are the relevant matters not his looks. But from reading around will say People are absolutely wanting this child to look black for what diversity? To send a message? And others want him to be white because they hate Meghan I assume. All very silly. He will look like what his genetics has programmed him to look like. No changing that.

[Pranter]

Originally Posted by amaryllus

I can. Because I don’t make everything a racial issue, esp concerning a newborn. He is just a cute healthy baby and if he was Mongolian or Apache that would not define his intelligence, talents, character or role in the Family. Those are the relevant matters not his looks. But from reading around will say People are absolutely wanting this child to look black for what diversity? To send a message? And others want him to be white because they hate Meghan I assume. All very silly. He will look like what his genetics has programmed him to look like. No changing that.

Frankly I don't care if he is white or black or whatever...I was responding to YOUR comments near the top of the page. I didn't raise the issue.


LaRae

[zembra]

I came to wonder about something....

Is is normal british protocol not to ask about the birth in detail? I am used to Danish reporters asking Danish royals about details, and I like to hear them, but I fully respect if there is a different protocol in the UK.

[Fem]

Originally Posted by zembra

I came to wonder about something....

Is is normal british protocol not to ask about the birth in detail? I am used to Danish reporters asking Danish royals about details, and I like to hear them, but I fully respect if there is a different protocol in the UK.

Uhm... What do you mean exactly when you say 'details'?

[Kellin]

People are absolutely wanting this child to look black for what diversity? To send a message?

I remeber an old saying that I can roughly retell as; "We will defeat racism not when each movie, each government or each organisation will have people of different races but when we stop mentioning person's race at all! it shouldn't matter."

[zembra]

Originally Posted by Fem

Uhm... What do you mean exactly when you say 'details'?

How long she was in labour for? How well the birth went in general. How the mother experienced it. If the mother had an epidural or not......That sort of thing.

[Curbside]

Noticing and commenting that the child is part African is not making it a racial issue. It is simply a description. Not good or bad, just a part of who this baby is.

It's a little hard to tell who he looks more like, but I think he has his mom's lips and perhaps her coloring.

[Curryong]

You mean, Zembra, about the pain, and whether Harry was there beside Meghan all the time, the medical staff, midwife etc? No, BRF royals don't usually go into fine details. I would have liked a few more minutes of interview actually, questions about the place of birth, names considered etc.

[Rena M.]

I think, I see some freckles

[Rudolph]

Originally Posted by zembra

How long she was in labour for? How well the birth went in general. How the mother experienced it. If the mother had an epidural or not......That sort of thing.

We don't know even know basic details like the hospital or the names of the attending physicians

[zembra]

Originally Posted by Andr19

Are you really discussing racial questions here? Shame on you!
It‘s a baby, cute as any other, nothing special but still a miracle.

Wow.

My remark on his lips maybe being the african american gene was an observation and a cute compliment

Is it also not allowed of me to say I like Meghan's skin colour then??, cause I see no problem in that......and I REALLY LIKE her skin colour. She has a gorgeous teint.

Don't create issues and drama where there are none, would you?!

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by amaryllus

No he is not. The boy has African DNA. Him being Part African would mean Meghan was full African. The fact is she is a Bi racial person with African decent and little Earls Caucasian traits will almost certainly dominate.

That's not how genetics works. Dominant gene is the one that will show up. Not which gene is more common in parents. So if he ended up with a dominant gene even if Meghan has a dominant and recessive and Harry has two recessive. It'll be the one dominant gene that triumphs. Now genes are a funny thing, and there are traits that's determined by a combination of genes, so it's anyone's guess. But that's the basic explanation.

I do detect a little bit of olive tone. Unfortunately, red hair is recessive. Although, I've seen a child with brown hair with obviously red highlights in them before. Absolutely beautiful.

Originally Posted by zembra

How long she was in labour for? How well the birth went in general. How the mother experienced it. If the mother had an epidural or not......That sort of thing.

Isn't that a bit too personal?

[Ista]

You can tell that Harry and Meghan are still in the ecstatic "Look what we did!" phase of new parenthood, before the sleep deprivation really kicks in in a major way! They looked so happy, which was lovely to see, and Harry cradling his new little one was adorable. The baby, what little we could see of him, looked cute--hard to tell much, but between Meghan's and Harry's noses, this baby is likely to have a very distinct profile eventually.

I have no idea why an American camera crew were included, it seems totally unnecessary in the context of this very limited photo op.

I also can't say that I liked the setting in St. George's hall, which seemed very stiff and overly formal, but it's also not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. I certainly didn't find it any warmer or more personal than the Lindo steps photo ops for the Cambridges. Whatever works for the individuals, however, it's a toss up as far as I'm concerned.

[ladongas]

Originally Posted by Erin9

I loved the bit about them running into Prince Philip on the way over.

Better than the last time Philip ran into someone, I hope!

[zembra]

Originally Posted by jacqui24

That's not how genetics works. Dominant gene is the one that will show up. Not which gene is more common in parents. So if he ended up with a dominant gene even if Meghan has a dominant and recessive and Harry has two recessive. It'll be the one dominant gene that triumphs. Now genes are a funny thing, and there are traits that's determined by a combination of genes, so it's anyone's guess. But that's the basic explanation.

I do detect a little bit of olive tone. Unfortunately, red hair is recessive. Although, I've seen a child with brown hair with obviously red highlights in them before. Absolutely beautiful.



Isn't that a bit too personal?

Not according to danish journalists and the danish royals. But as I said I respect it, if the culture about this is different in the UK.

Originally Posted by Curryong

You mean, Zembra, about the pain, and whether Harry was there beside Meghan all the time, the medical staff, midwife etc? No, BRF royals don't usually go into fine details. I would have liked a few more minutes of interview actually, questions about the place of birth, names considered etc.

I see. thanks for clearing that up for me

[CTchic]

Why do you want to know that? That is a private thing. If she wants to share that she will.

[Zaira]

Originally Posted by Kellin

I remeber an old saying that I can roughly retell as; "We will defeat racism not when each movie, each government or each organisation will have people of different races but when we stop mentioning person's race at all! it shouldn't matter."

The "color-blind" approach doesn't solve racism. Recognizing and celebrating our diversity and how it informs our views, lives and experiences versus trying to elide it is the actually more inclusive approach.

Regardless, this baby is a blessing and also historic as the child of the first mixed race marriage in the senior line of the BRF. But baby and mom seem healthy and daddy is thrilled and that is all that matters.

[zembra]

Originally Posted by CTchic

Why do you want to know that? That is a private thing. If she wants to share that she will.

I find births and the details about it fascinating, and therefore I love to hear as much about it as possible, but of course only if the parents want to tell about it. It IS personal information so it is only up to the parents if they want to share the details or not.

The danish royals shared the details, and I love them for that, but like I said before, I also fully respect if others don't want to share these details. Doesnt make me like Harry and Meghan any less

[jacqui24]

One thing I noticed on the SussexRoyal IG photo is the background as they are walking in. I believe the couple took some engagement photos at Windsor Castle as well as Frogmore now. The background of them walking into St. George's Hall is exactly as the background on the photo we saw first on HM's table at BP and then again in NZ.

[Fem]

Originally Posted by zembra

How long she was in labour for? How well the birth went in general. How the mother experienced it. If the mother had an epidural or not......That sort of thing.

I see that someone else answered that, but no, in the UK we don't ask questions like this. It's kind of... weird? I mean, please don't be offended, but it's, yeah, it's really weird for me And they actually answer?