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05-07-2019, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Osipi
Perhaps it was because of the email system crashing and not being able to alert the media that Harry decided to come out and physically announce the birth of his son. That short interview wasn't ever really on the agenda for the birth of this child. It definitely was an unexpected bonus and gave the media (through SkyNews) something to gush over, report on and actually be a bit more involved in their stories.
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Yes, saying she was in labor when she had already had the baby was a lie. I do believe Harry did his interview to put a good face on things, well done.
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05-07-2019, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DuchessMia
Seriously, who cares if they didn’t get the info that she was in labor before getting the announcement she had had the baby. I mean they have 3 days of camping out at Windsor to do their stories on the birth. Just grousing to grouse. With social media, they are quickly becoming obsolete.
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Seriously...not everything is a conspiracy. Sometimes things happen...email servers crash..people don't follow thru on a simple task....mistakes happen...some people are just not good at their job. IF she went into labor early morning maybe the person who was supposed to let the press know didn't get to work until 8 and by than she had already had the baby, it could be anything.
And I totally agree about social media.
Either way...Congratulations to Harry, Meghan and Baby Sussex! A BOY!
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05-07-2019, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Osipi
Throughout the entire pregnancy, my first and sole wish to happen at the time of the birth was to be able to see Harry's face after his child was born so I was really over the moon watching that short interview. To me, it surpassed the media getting the information that Meghan was in labor or just a general announcement on Instagram or the easel at BP.
Yeps... that interview was golden. 
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Can you believe we might see him holding his child likely tomorrow?!?! Wonder how that's going to top the euphoria he was feeling right after the birth.
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05-07-2019, 11:12 AM
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While the labour announcement was a little misleading in its phrasing it was not a lie. It was past tense.
"The Duchess of Sussex went into labour in the early hours of this morning.
The Duke of Sussex was by Her Royal Highnesses’ side. An announcement will be made soon."
None of that was untrue. The media ran with the headlines "Meghan in labour" because of the awkward phrasing. "An announcement will be made soon" also sounds like they already have something to announce as opposed to just announcing when it happens.
They should have just said baby is here (even just "announcement soon" or something) to give them time to set up for a full announcement and then sent Harry out but it was not a lie.
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05-07-2019, 11:17 AM
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One question for my UK peeps. I thought UK uses the metric system, but why are all the babies weighed in lbs and oz?
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05-07-2019, 11:17 AM
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I am so happy for the Sussex little family. I was simply hoping for a healthy baby and a safe delivery for mom. I was looking forward to the family pictures a few days later. TBH I thought at least a better chance of a good baby picture. The lovely surprise was Harry coming out and announcing the birth. It was a delight to watch his joy, utter sense of awe and relief of the birth of their first child.
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05-07-2019, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DuchessMia
Seriously, who cares if they didn’t get the info that she was in labor before getting the announcement she had had the baby. I mean they have 3 days of camping out at Windsor to do their stories on the birth. Just grousing to grouse. With social media, they are quickly becoming obsolete.
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Absolutely. And I can't say I feel the least bit sad for them. The constant nitpicking and faux outrage surrounding everything Harry and Meghan do is just tiring now. It's no wonder why they feel the need to share less.
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Originally Posted by Frelinghighness
Yes, saying she was in labor when she had already had the baby was a lie. I do believe Harry did his interview to put a good face on things, well done.
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I think I read that the plan was always for Harry to do the interview, if all went well. And it very much seemed like a Harry thing to do, sharing his joy with the public in his own way.
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05-07-2019, 11:28 AM
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One question for my UK peeps. I thought UK uses the metric system, but why are all the babies weighed in lbs and oz?
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We use imperial measurements a lot actually. Stone, feet, inches, miles - all regularly used over here.
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05-07-2019, 11:28 AM
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One question for my UK peeps. I thought UK uses the metric system, but why are all the babies weighed in lbs and oz?
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I think most of Europe is all metric, all the time, but the UK uses a mix of metric and Imperial units, depending on what’s being measured.
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05-07-2019, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jacqui24
One question for my UK peeps. I thought UK uses the metric system, but why are all the babies weighed in lbs and oz?
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It's just tradition that we want this measurement in lbs & ozs because then we can compare with our own, our parents, grandparents etc. It's the preferred currency for babies! :) The medical records probably use metric.
Older people use imperial measures for lots of other things even though the measure on the packet or bottle is metric. The younger generation use metric much more & I use metric myself for almost everything - but not for babies!
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05-07-2019, 11:45 AM
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Looking back at coverage of previous births for comparison, I saw heads up before Kate’s that if things happened in the middle of the night, any announcement of her going into labor would be postponed until the morning. But even then no one seemed to consider that both labor and delivery could happen in the off hours.
I think the timing of the birth, happening as it did before an hour deemed appropriate for sending out alerts, threw them off in terms of how to tell the press that it’s time to take up their stations on the Long Walk without announcing that the baby had already arrived. They could have just said, “go to the Long Walk now,” but who knows what conclusions would have been jumped to it had their not been an explicit bit of messaging referring to a normal birth process. I, for one, would worry that it was an indication of something tragic had they chosen vague wording like that. But they had basically promised to give press time to prepare before announcing, so they couldn’t just say it clearly straight out, either.
And it was complicated by the fact that this time the couple has loved ones on the list of people who should hear the news from them directly before any announcement (a list which surely, for every royal birth, extends past those listed in the announcement to include, for instance, those close enough to be godparents) who live in another hemisphere.
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05-07-2019, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Lilyflo
The younger generation use metric much more
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I think I must have missed the memo on this
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05-07-2019, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mydeardrsattler
While the labour announcement was a little misleading in its phrasing it was not a lie. It was past tense.
"The Duchess of Sussex went into labour in the early hours of this morning.
The Duke of Sussex was by Her Royal Highnesses’ side. An announcement will be made soon."
None of that was untrue. The media ran with the headlines "Meghan in labour" because of the awkward phrasing. "An announcement will be made soon" also sounds like they already have something to announce as opposed to just announcing when it happens.
They should have just said baby is here (even just "announcement soon" or something) to give them time to set up for a full announcement and then sent Harry out but it was not a lie.
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Most the royal press read that and figured she had the baby. They didn't lie. People just didn't ready it carefully. The issue was more timing. Meghan went into labor late at night and had the baby early in the morning.
They meant to send out initial email earlier but a error (which apparently isn't uncommon per the reporters) occurred with the servers so it was delayed.
Honestly, is it really that deep? They all got the footage they wanted. Their deadlines were met. And all the info they want will be revealed soon enough. If the hospital and the Sussexes want privacy then respect it.
If is not your right to know it on your terms.
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05-07-2019, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ACO
Most the royal press read that and figured she had the baby. They didn't lie. People just didn't ready it carefully. The issue was more timing. Meghan went into labor late at night and had the baby early in the morning.
They meant to send out initial email earlier but a error (which apparently isn't uncommon per the reporters) occurred with the servers so it was delayed.
Honestly, is it really that deep? They all got the footage they wanted. Their deadlines were met. And all the info they want will be revealed soon enough. If the hospital and the Sussexes want privacy then respect it.
If is not your right to know it on your terms.
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I know no one lied and I know they have the right to privacy. I was defending the announcement from others who called it a lie.
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05-07-2019, 12:57 PM
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I'm late to the party, but I'm very glad that everything went smoothly and that mom and child are good. Harry finally has a little bubba of his own and he couldn't be happier, seeing his face in that short interview/statement was amazing, he was so over the moon!
That sentence "This little thing is absolutely to die for" reminded me of an interview with Ryan Reynolds, in which he was talking about his children and about how he thought he never could love anyone as much as his wife, but the moment his first daughter was born he knew he would use his wife as a living shield to protect their girls... In a very jokingly matter, of course! It's just beautiful to see the parental love in Harry's eyes. I have a feeling he's gonna be a great dad.
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05-07-2019, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by muriel
Many congratulations to the couple and their families on the safe arrival of the baby.
Not quite sure why they disingenuously instructed BP to put out an announcement that the Duchess was in labour, many hours after the birth. It was factually incorrect at the point of the announcement.
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But it wasn’t really factually incorrect. And I would guess they were still calling people, letting them know the good news, so not ready to announce yet.
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05-07-2019, 01:19 PM
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[...] it's clear that Prince Charles is very happy for his boy!
Also I have to say, I love Duchess of Cornwall response when she got a onesie for baby Sussex as a gift:
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“As soon as we return I will deliver it to them, direct from Germany,” she said. “I’m sure they will be thrilled.”
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05-07-2019, 01:22 PM
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What's this about Camilla getting a onesie for baby Sussex?!
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05-07-2019, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Betsypaige
What's this about Camilla getting a onesie for baby Sussex?!
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Apparently she got one in Germany!
https://twitter.com/Hannah_Furness/s...nts-germany%2F
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05-07-2019, 01:38 PM
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Aww, how adorable!!!! Thanks!
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