Birth of Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor: May 6, 2019

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile

I thought the Palace didn’t announce things in the middle of the night? That they waited until morning.

That’s what Chris Ship said a few days ago. That still doesn’t explain his dig at IG since nothing was posted on there until the birth announcement came out.

[hel]

Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile

I thought the Palace didn’t announce things in the middle of the night? That they waited until morning.

Sorry, I'm confused; what's the connection between waiting til morning and not getting an email at all because the email system went down at the Palace?

And since they waited until 2pm British time to announce her labour, I'm doubly confused.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by hel

Sorry, I'm confused; what's the connection between waiting til morning and not getting an email at all because the email system went down at the Palace?

And since they waited until 2pm British time to announce her labour, I'm doubly confused.

Has anyone else talked about the email situation? It’s odd that he’s the only one that knows. Especially since they’ve all been talking about the time.

[Cocoasneeze]

I'm late to the party, but really happy and elated for Harry and Meghan! Such a wonderful news to learn in the middle of a really hectic day!

Harry's short interview was such a personable, nice gesture. Giving all the necessary details himself, while looking so incredibly happy.. It just warmed my heart!!

Apparently Wednesday is going to be the day of the photocall. Can't wait!!!

[ACO]

Originally Posted by hel

Sorry, I'm confused; what's the connection between waiting til morning and not getting an email at all because the email system went down at the Palace?

And since they waited until 2pm British time to announce her labour, I'm doubly confused.

From what I understand they would have waited until HMQ rose before announcing the baby. As the little one was born at 5:26am they would have had a few hours before anyone other than Doria knew.

As for the reporters? Apparently BP meant to send the email announcing that she went into labor early in the morning a good hour before that actually got it. This was meant to people would have time to get to the Long Walk and prep. Unfortunately the email draft froze or was stuck therefore it didn't send.

So all the info was sent closer together than meant. Palmer was annoyed because apparently this has happened in the past with the royal households.

[jacqui24]

To my DC peeps, UK Embassy in Washington is hosting an open house this weekend from 10AM - 4PM. You can send a message of well wish to the Sussexes there.

https://mobile.twitter.com/VictoriaS...29316606001152

[LauraS3514]

Originally Posted by MaiaMia_53

It was just that Princess Anne and the Duchess of Gloucester were the first royal women to give birth at a hospital, only days apart in November 1977. And seemingly a small, informal crowd had gathered back then as Princess Anne was leaving the hospital. But it was seemingly very casual, and Anne did not really pose, although she did smile toward the photographers. There's a shot of the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester with their baby inside a vehicle before they pulled away.

The first royal woman to give birth in a hospital was in 1970 when The Duchess of Kent delivered Lord Nicholas Windsor. The Duchess of Gloucester's son, Alexander Earl of Ulster, was born prematurely in 1974, also in hospital. The 1977 babies were Peter Phillips and Lady Davina Windsor, now Lewis. Tragically, The Duchess of Kent also delivered a stillborn son in 1977.

[Tarlita]

Originally Posted by Cocoasneeze

I'm late to the party, but really happy and elated for Harry and Meghan! Such a wonderful news to learn in the middle of a really hectic day!

Harry's short interview was such a personable, nice gesture. Giving all the necessary details himself, while looking so incredibly happy.. It just warmed my heart!!

Apparently Wednesday is going to be the day of the photocall. Can't wait!!!

I agree with you Coco, I much prefer that we had Prince Harry speak to the media about his thoughts and feelings rather than a Lindo Wing on the steps thing like William and Kate.
It was very generous of Prince Harry to share with us and much more preferable.

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by Rudolph

Daily mail is now reporting the baby was born at Portland hospital

Originally Posted by Mbruno

If that is true and Meghan and the baby are back at Windsor, she went in and out of the hospital in an amazingly short time.

EDIT: I just found out that the possible future Jacobite. heir to the thrones of England and Scotland, Joseph Wenzel of Liechtenstein, was also born at Portland hospital, which is quite interesting.

No one knows where Meghan have birth, DM are just guessing. Buckingham Palace/Sussex Royal aren’t telling anyone, however they cannot hide the names that will appear in the birth certificate in the next 43 days.

So we will know either way.

[Kataryn]

Originally Posted by Somebody

Thanks, I learned something new! Although I still think there is a difference between how they are known and what they are; which was my initial point as I stated from the start that this baby will be known with Harry's subsidiary title without being the actual earl. So, as he is not an earl himself, the alternative to being a Lord would be to be a mere 'mr' while his younger siblings would be Lord and Lady...

Can you give an example of a Duke without subsidiary titles and what his eldest son is known as? (but we should probably move this discussion to a different thread)

AFAIK there is none. There is one who was created a duke after having been a Viscount before, so this Viscountcy is all his heir gets, but other than that, I only know of dukes who were created with subsidiary titles if they haven't got them before. There are not so many dukes, anyway.


Here is a lengthy article from Wiki aboutthe tiltes of the peerage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courte...United_Kingdom

[Lilyflo]

I hope the baby was born at the Portland - definitely safer than a home birth for a 1st baby. Keeping medics names private is also sensible, given the media scrutiny they'd be under. Any female doctor involved could expect to find her personal life raked over & a photo of herself drunk wearing just her knickers splashed all over the Mail or Sun.

Given that the Mail has revealed the Portland info before BP or Harry, if it's true I can fully appreciate Harry's desire to keep some things private until he decides to share them. There's obviously at least one mole at BP or the Portland feeding the Mail (could be anyone from an eavesdropper to an official).

The annoyance of some RRs at BP's email cock-up is understandable, given they've been on stand-by for weeks. Someone needs to deal with that IT issue as comms is so crucial, especially for formal announcements & press releases.

[Lilyflo]

@Daenys - I agree they print a load of rubbish & invent loads of stuff. Sometimes they're right though & the Portland story sounds plausible. If it's not, they'll just backtrack & blame someone else!

ETA They're already backtracking on saying it's definitely the Portland. They're sticking with "a London hospital" but now it's "most likely The Portland".

Somebody previously suggested that the UK wasn't very interested in the birth of Baby Sussex. I disagreed then & here's a look at today's front pages:
https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/sta...33527695663105

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by Lilyflo

Somebody previously suggested that the UK wasn't very interested in the birth of Baby Sussex. I disagreed then & here's a look at today's front pages:
https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/sta...33527695663105

Whilst I also disagree that the UK wasn't interested, the papers don't prove that point. It's a story that papers will print, physical newspaper sales have been on the decline for years, a true reflection would be internet articles read/searched.

[Osipi]

All I'll say is that if my hubby who isn't one bit interested in anything royal or even anything British picks up on this birth, there's definitely interest abounding around the world. To prove a point, hubby likes to watch Hallmark movies and if Meghan was in the starring role, he'd never piece it together that the Meghan starring in the movie is the same Meghan that just gave birth unless I told him.

I don't see any real purpose of announcing where the birth took place or the medical team assisting at the birth. The public just doesn't need to know that information as it is totally irrelevant. What matters is that this little sweetheart of a boy has arrived safely and soundly and finally his parents can actually get some rest without thinking something will happen when they're sound asleep.

I think, though, that its going to be a very long time before Harry comes down from his own personal baby blue Cloud 9. I definitely can picture Harry wandering into the nursery and just sitting there watching his son sleep. I hope he realizes during those moments that babies are our Creator's message that He wants this world to continue and fuels Harry's resolve to do what he can to ensure that for his family.

[Sue Lemon]

Originally Posted by Osipi

All I'll say is that if my hubby who isn't one bit interested in anything royal or even anything British picks up on this birth, there's definitely interest abounding around the world. To prove a point, hubby likes to watch Hallmark movies and if Meghan was in the starring role, he'd never piece it together that the Meghan starring in the movie is the same Meghan that just gave birth unless I told him.

I don't see any real purpose of announcing where the birth took place or the medical team assisting at the birth. The public just doesn't need to know that information as it is totally irrelevant. What matters is that this little sweetheart of a boy has arrived safely and soundly and finally his parents can actually get some rest without thinking something will happen when they're sound asleep.

I think, though, that its going to be a very long time before Harry comes down from his own personal baby blue Cloud 9. I definitely can picture Harry wandering into the nursery and just sitting there watching his son sleep. I hope he realizes during those moments that babies are our Creator's message that He wants this world to continue and fuels Harry's resolve to do what he can to ensure that for his family.

Oh, I disagree! It's why I just popped in here to see, as I haven't heard much about that on the TV news. Hubby mentioned that Meghan did go to hospital, so I thought I'd check it out here. Many of us are very interested in all the details. As a mum of two, I'd love to know that side of it.

[Iluvbertie]

Originally Posted by Osipi

I don't see any real purpose of announcing where the birth took place or the medical team assisting at the birth.

It is a legal requirement to state, on the birth certificate, the 'place of birth' which will mean they can't keep that a secret. They will have to announce where the baby was born as birth certificates are a matter of public record.

The birth will have to be registered in the next six weeks and then that information will have to be made public ... even if they don't do so someone in the press or simply the public will find out and will make it public.

The place of birth is one of the required fields on a register of births in the UK.

[Osipi]

Quite true that the place of birth will be a matter of public record once the birth is registered. I just didn't see the point in making it public knowledge at the time of the birth announcement. Details surrounding the labor and the delivery, even by the medical team will remain private.

I don't think I'd want the details of my labors and deliveries ever put out in the public domain. Heck, I don't think I'd even want extended members of the family keyed in on those details. They weren't my finest hours.

[Moonmaiden23]

I have to agree with Osipi 100%...for what reason and why does the public need to be informed about the names of the DoS's medical team and where the birth took place?

Even if this information is eventually made public, what purpose does it serve to release this information?

Do we also have a "right" to know what if any drugs she was given during her labour?

[O-H Anglophile]

Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

I have to agree with Osipi 100%...for what reason and why does the public need to be informed about the names of the DoS's medical team and where the birth took place?

Even if this information is eventually made public, what purpose does it serve to release this information?

Do we also have a "right" to know what if any drugs she was given during her labour?

I’m sorry, but there is a huge difference between knowing place of birth-a matter of public record- and personal medical details that are private.

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

I have to agree with Osipi 100%...for what reason and why does the public need to be informed about the names of the DoS's medical team and where the birth took place?

Even if this information is eventually made public, what purpose does it serve to release this information?

Do we also have a "right" to know what if any drugs she was given during her labour?

The place of birth is a matter of public record and has been disclosed in all royal births , not only in the UK but also in other European countries that are monarchies.

Quite frankly, I think it is silly to keep it secret, especially after the fact when privacy concerns no longer apply.