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11-22-2010, 12:45 PM
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Nathalie Cox and Cd_1, you don't really think Harry could marry a poor girl from the East End of London, do you?!  Upper middle class, maybe. But let's not go beyond that.  
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11-22-2010, 12:46 PM
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they are broken up and he's going to Africa for New years just to see her? is that true?
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The article says he hopes to meet up with her. So he's obviously not going over just for her.
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why cant she be normal and not wealthy? that would be great. a simple girl, such as sophie of wessex
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He can, where did anyone say he can't?
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Nathalie Cox and Cd_1, you don't really think Harry could marry a poor girl from the East End of London, do you?! Upper middle class, maybe. But let's not go beyond that. |
Are you being serious?
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I have a question: He needs to marry without option, or he can live and start a family without getting married?
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If he wants his children to be in line for the succesion then he needs to marry his girlfriend/partner.
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11-22-2010, 12:59 PM
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Nathalie Cox and Cd_1, you don't really think Harry could marry a poor girl from the East End of London, do you?! Upper middle class, maybe. But let's not go beyond that. |
Actually I would LOVE it if Harry found a girl like Sophie or Autumn.
Why couldn't he marry someone that's not well-off?? Of course the press would deem her a gold digger.
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11-22-2010, 01:09 PM
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Actually I would LOVE it if Harry found a girl like Sophie or Autumn.
Why couldn't he marry someone that's not well-off?? Of course the press would deem her a gold digger.
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a.Because a girl like that wouldn't attract him for too long and b.Where is he supposed to meet such a girl?! And yes, Lumut, I'm being serious. Are you?
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11-22-2010, 01:21 PM
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a.Because a girl like that wouldn't attract him for too long and b.Where is he supposed to meet such a girl?! And yes, Lumut, I'm being serious. Are you? |
A, How do you know?
B, Rugby match, army traning, in a nightclub, shopping? There are any numbers of places he could meet an ordinary girl.
I'm being deadly serious, why does Harry have to marry upper middle class?
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11-22-2010, 01:25 PM
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The "ordinary girl" could have made something of herself. Put herself through graduate, medical or law school so why would it matter so much.
She could be waiting tables at a restaurant and it wouldn't matter. As long as she has the right intentions, loves Harry for who he is and not what he has to offer then let them be together.
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11-22-2010, 01:28 PM
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Thank you Lumutqueen!
NoorMeansLight, anything is possible
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11-22-2010, 09:14 PM
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I have a feeling that Harry is not the type of guy to rule out a girl because she isn't wealthy. She might be able to show him a side of life he never got to experience... I think people who aren't born privileged tend to appreciate the smaller things. Maybe Harry needs a girl like that.
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11-23-2010, 02:53 AM
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i think he is not at all affected by wealth, and neither is William. Had Kate Middleton come to St Andrews from a public school, would the prince not have married her? ofcourse he would have! its not like they knew the same people before they arrived at university, or traveled in the same circles!
As for harry, he seems to have a lot of personality, and i'm sure he would have gone out with Chelsy even if she had no money. Sure, she wouldn't have been able to make frequent trips to England, but they would have worked out something.Look at Autumn and Sophie...they came from such ordinary backgrounds, and usually a girl from an ordinary background evokes endearing feelings that a girl from a wealthy background never can, IMO.
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11-23-2010, 03:08 AM
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i think he is not at all affected by wealth, and neither is William. Had Kate Middleton come to St Andrews from a public school, would the prince not have married her? ofcourse he would have! its not like they knew the same people before they arrived at university, or traveled in the same circles!
As for harry, he seems to have a lot of personality, and i'm sure he would have gone out with Chelsy even if she had no money. Sure, she wouldn't have been able to make frequent trips to England, but they would have worked out something.Look at Autumn and Sophie...they came from such ordinary backgrounds, and didn't Prince Philip give up his place on the throne for Autumn? that is true love, and usually a girl from an ordinary background evokes endearing feelings that a girl from a wealthy background never can, IMO.
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I do think you've hit it right on the head. Of course its a lot of their mother's doing. One positive aspect of Diana that I do see her boys carrying with them is the ability to realize that they're people just like everyone else is. They might have a heck of a lot more but they were taught that its not how everyone else lives. They were brought up to be people's princes and not ivory tower princes.
I can very easily see Harry falling in love with someone that just "hits" him the right way. Where she's from and what she does won't have anything to do with it. Perhaps like Kate and William split for a bit.. so are Harry and Chelsy. He's got his Apaches.. she's got her law to follow. Maybe they'll get back together again and she'll be legal adviser to the BRF.. or he'll meet this awesome helicopter mechanic that just KNOWS his chopper.
Right now Harry is doing what Harry loves to do best. We can only speculate on his affairs of the heart.
I know you refer to Philip.. the Princess Royal's oldest son who married Autumn (and I think looks a lot like William) but he's never been known as Prince Philip by request of his mother.
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11-23-2010, 03:32 AM
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^ yes i was, sorry just edited my post. I also edited out the part about Peter giving up his place in line for the throne, because I wasn't entirely sure I was right about that!
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11-23-2010, 03:37 AM
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I know you refer to Philip.. the Princess Royal's oldest son who married Autumn (and I think looks a lot like William) but he's never been known as Prince Philip by request of his mother.
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Anne's son is Peter not Philip. He isn't a Prince because under the 1917 LPs girls can't pass on royal titles only boys can.
Had George VI not issued know LPs in 1948 Charles wouldn't have been born a prince because although Elizabeth was the heiress presumptive she was still a girl and only boys can pass HRH Prince/Princess to their children.
That is why Charles', Andrew's, and technically Edward's children are HRH Prince/Princesses and Anne's aren't.
Margaret's aren't either for the same reason and nor are the Harewoods as their descent is from girls.
The Kents and Gloucesters have HRH because they are descended from boys.
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11-23-2010, 03:46 AM
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^Princess Anne also declined her mother's (QEII) offer to issue a LP which would have styled her children. Zara has said she is grateful that she was born w/o a style -- she doesn't have any royal obligations, but she (and her brother) retained their place in the line of succession.
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11-23-2010, 03:53 AM
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i think he is not at all affected by wealth, and neither is William. Had Kate Middleton come to St Andrews from a public school, would the prince not have married her? ofcourse he would have! its not like they knew the same people before they arrived at university, or traveled in the same circles!
As for harry, he seems to have a lot of personality, and i'm sure he would have gone out with Chelsy even if she had no money. Sure, she wouldn't have been able to make frequent trips to England, but they would have worked out something.Look at Autumn and Sophie...they came from such ordinary backgrounds, and usually a girl from an ordinary background evokes endearing feelings that a girl from a wealthy background never can, IMO.
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And yet Kate came from St. Andrews, they knew the same people and Chelsy's parents HAVE money.  Daydreaming is a wonderful thing, but it's highly unlikely that Harry falls in love with a girl he meets in a tiny shop in London while buying a packet of ciggies. I wouldn't even call Kate a normal girl---come on, the Middletons are rich, they could afford it to send their daughter to the same same university as the Prince of Wales' son! Sophie is an anomaly here, Peter and Autumn? Well, who cares for them, seriously? Apart from that he's still in the line of succession (and will most likely never succeed, as he and the family surely know), he has nothing to do with the family business.
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11-23-2010, 03:54 AM
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Anne's son is Peter not Philip. He isn't a Prince because under the 1917 LPs girls can't pass on royal titles only boys can.
Had George VI not issued know LPs in 1948 Charles wouldn't have been born a prince because although Elizabeth was the heiress presumptive she was still a girl and only boys can pass HRH Prince/Princess to their children.
That is why Charles', Andrew's, and technically Edward's children are HRH Prince/Princesses and Anne's aren't.
Margaret's aren't either for the same reason and nor are the Harewoods as their descent is from girls.
The Kents and Gloucesters have HRH because they are descended from boys.
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(blushes a warming shade of beet read as she leans into cd_1 and whispers "listen to Bertie... she knows these things")
Yeps.. I meant Peter Phillips. The prince Philip in cd's post got me comfuzzled.. yeps that's the ticket.
Anne also requested at the time of her children's birth that they'd not have any titles correct? Similar to what happened when Edward and Sophie had children?
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11-23-2010, 04:02 AM
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St Andrews is not as expensive as people think it is, i mean, i know many ordinary people who went there. As for their knowing the same friends, that was in St Andrews where they first met and talked to each other because they lived in the same dorm. Nothing more to it. I don't think its daydreaming at all, it has already happened with Kate and William. And no matter how much money the Middletons have, they are middleclass. In England class has very little to do with money and more to do with the right bloodlines.
If your going to dismiss examples that illustrate my point by saying "who really cares for them", then we really can't have a discussion. He is the Queen's grandson as is William. He may be 11th in line to the throne, but trust me, he was very sought after in the English circles!
This has nothing to do with Kate's money, are you serious?? They would still end up together, and she would still probably go to St Andrews even if her parents had been cabin crew/ pilot of BA.
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11-23-2010, 04:14 AM
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Nathalie Cox and Cd_1, you don't really think Harry could marry a poor girl from the East End of London, do you?! Upper middle class, maybe. But let's not go beyond that. |
this is the 21st century. He can pretty much marry whomever he wishes, I'm quite sure!
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11-23-2010, 04:17 AM
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this is the 21st century. He can pretty much marry whomever he wishes, I'm quite sure!
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Not quite anyone...certainly not someone who is Catholic and intends on remaining in the Catholic faith.
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11-23-2010, 04:20 AM
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11-23-2010, 04:25 AM
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Not quite anyone...certainly not someone who is Catholic and intends on remaining in the Catholic faith.
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He can marry a Catholic. It would just mean that if the situation arose and he was to be King he would be treated as dead - but that it all. He could still do all the duties to support the family etc.
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