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09-05-2011, 03:30 AM
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Perhaps that's why I've always been uneasy about Chelsy. There seems to be something unsettled about her. I think that Harry needs someone who's constant and dependable.
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Ouch! I've always been a Chelsy "supporter", but I can't help admitting I had instant recognition when I read your post comparing Chelsy to Sarah Ferguson. There definitely is something there, though I'm hard-pressed to precisely define what it is, but whatever it is, Chelsy does remind me of Sarah in a very uncomfortable way. There's also much wisdom in your comment that Harry would do well with a very constant person. Well, I still give kudos to Chelsy, as she obviously doesn't think she'd make a good fit with Harry and the BRF when she might have married him (presuming the rumours of Harry's proposals are accurate) as the personal advantages that would have come her way are enormous even to someone of her wealthy background. I remember so well Major Ferguson's famous comment that his daughter was more in love with being royal than with Andrew. The last thing the House of Windsor needs is another failed marriage and Harry certainly doesn't need any more personal emotional trauma than he's already experienced in his young life, either. I will continue to admire Chelsy for her reticence and self-knowledge, but I am now certainly more leery at what the long-term prospects of marriage between her and Harry would bring. I still don't think a lady as calm as Kate would suit him, but settled and dependable do not have to mean boring, either! Hopefully, he'll find someone who suits him as much as Kate suits William as there is no one in the BRF I'd rather see end up living "happily ever after", (of course in a realistic sense - the Diana and Charles story shows how fairy tales are meant for books alone). I would hate to see Harry end up like Andrew has; stuck in the shadowlands of a marriage that both does and doesn't exist, emotionally speaking. When one realises how defined Andrew's life has been by the decision to marry Sarah - it really brings home how a certain personality type just doesn't belong in the Royal world. As Lord Charteris said of Sarah, she was never cut out to be a royal duchess in this or any other time - and since reading your and Tyger's posts, I get a strong feeling that Chelsy belongs in that category, too, albeit for different reasons as she certainly can't be said to have behaved as Sarah has, either.
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09-06-2011, 08:45 AM
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I also agree! I don't believe Chelsy would be any better-suited to royal life than Sarah Ferguson turned out to be, and it would end badly.
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09-06-2011, 09:19 AM
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The problem with royal life, especially dating a Prince, is that one is immediately in the media and remains there. It takes a special type of person to cope with this. It would appear that Chelsy is rather wanting to focus on a legal career and Harry still has 8 months of training to complete as a helicopter pilot. So I do think that neither of them ready for marriage nor settling down. It is rumoured that Harry is particularly fond of Chelsy but she is the one who tends to back down. Given the current situation, I do not think she is suited to royal life at all. However, if a successful legal career does materialise, which is hard work and determination, the situation may change and Chelsy may just become a possible suitor. The fact is they are both young, they are both still enjoying life and the responsibility of marriage is not an option at the moment.
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09-06-2011, 08:02 PM
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The problem with royal life, especially dating a Prince, is that one is immediately in the media and remains there. It takes a special type of person to cope with this. It would appear that Chelsy is rather wanting to focus on a legal career and Harry still has 8 months of training to complete as a helicopter pilot. So I do think that neither of them ready for marriage nor settling down. It is rumoured that Harry is particularly fond of Chelsy but she is the one who tends to back down. Given the current situation, I do not think she is suited to royal life at all. However, if a successful legal career does materialise, which is hard work and determination, the situation may change and Chelsy may just become a possible suitor. The fact is they are both young, they are both still enjoying life and the responsibility of marriage is not an option at the moment.
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I don't think Chelsy had much interest in being a lawyer - I think she was there to be with Harry. Though they're saying upthread she'll return to England and do her internship. Which surprises me - according to "friends" ( which I suppose could be anyone ) she was constantly saying how much she hated living in England. I'd think she'd leave and not look back - do whatever kind of career she chose in Africa somewhere.
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09-07-2011, 02:45 PM
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I agree, I don't think Chelsy is cut out for Royal life. I would hate for another Sarah Ferguson situation occur, especially when Harry would be that closely involved. I also think that like William he saw the disaster that his parents marriage was and would want to shy away from marrying someone he wasn't completely sure he wanted to spend the rest of his life with. Now I'm not saying that if he does choose Chelsy it will be a disaster of married, none of us really known what their relationship is like or what goes through both their heads. I'm just stating that I think Harry will make the right choice whether it's Chelsy or someone else.
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09-07-2011, 03:07 PM
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Chelsy definitely strikes me as a free spirit, and as has been said earlier, that may not be the best personality for a life of protocol and ceremony. I think she would be suffocated and over time, become unhappy. I give her so much credit for being able to realize this earlier and saving them both some heartache in the future.
Harry is a very caring and passionate person, and will (undoubtably) make a great husband and father.
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09-07-2011, 03:27 PM
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Originally Posted by Daria_S
Chelsy definitely strikes me as a free spirit, and as has been said earlier, that may not be the best personality for a life of protocol and ceremony. I think she would be suffocated and over time, become unhappy. I give her so much credit for being able to realize this earlier and saving them both some heartache in the future.
Harry is a very caring and passionate person, and will (undoubtably) make a great husband and father.
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09-09-2011, 02:24 PM
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09-09-2011, 09:50 PM
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Ooooh, the look he's giving her - this guy is hot!
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09-10-2011, 05:00 AM
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I hope he finds a woman able to see past his royal title and love him for just who he is. He seems to such a kind, warm hearted man.
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09-10-2011, 05:42 AM
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I think Diana wanted his boys to marry "normal" girls.Hopefully that will work out for Harry.
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09-11-2011, 01:23 AM
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I hope he finds a woman able to see past his royal title and love him for just who he is. He seems to such a kind, warm hearted man.
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I suspect that is just what Chelsey did - loved him for who he is - but the title got in the way. It always will because unless the BRF really changes in a certain fundamental way, it is asking a lot of a young woman to give up a career to simply be a fashion plate and attend charity functions. Plus there's the tabloids and all the scrutiny - one might love the man but what comes with it must be a hard pill to swallow.
I still say that there could be a quiet under-the-radar relationship between the two of them that could go on for years - like with some of the Scandinavian royals. What the tabloids catch or do not catch at the entrances to night spots is not the defining element on what is really going on, after all.
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09-11-2011, 11:24 AM
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I suspect that is just what Chelsey did - loved him for who he is - but the title got in the way. It always will because unless the BRF really changes in a certain fundamental way, it is asking a lot of a young woman to give up a career to simply be a fashion plate and attend charity functions. Plus there's the tabloids and all the scrutiny - one might love the man but what comes with it must be a hard pill to swallow.
I still say that there could be a quiet under-the-radar relationship between the two of them that could go on for years - like with some of the Scandinavian royals. What the tabloids catch or do not catch at the entrances to night spots is not the defining element on what is really going on, after all.
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In early interviews ( really early - like a few months after they started dating ) her family gave a string of interviews where they said that they were going to get married. I think they liked the idea of "princess Chelsy" until they were faced with the reality. I think she stayed in England and tried to make it work, but just couldn't. I also sort of think the negative press about what she was wearing at the royal wedding kind of ended it for good - I wonder if she didn't read the nasty comments made about the way she looked and if she was appropriate or not and decided she didn't want to be stuck in that sort of life. At any rate, I think she's smart enough and she was dating a famous athlete of some sort when she first started dating Harry - I think she'll marry well and end up somewhere she'll be happier. They were pretty young when they started dating anyway.
It's hard to say who he'll end up with - he seems to really like the military life so I wonder if he'll just end up with a military wife.
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09-16-2011, 10:50 PM
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There's really no rush; Harry is still very young and has no need to marry just yet.
It's better for him to focus on his career right now.
Marriage is something he can deal with later.
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10-08-2011, 07:07 PM
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10-08-2011, 07:16 PM
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I ususally read Daily Mail articles with a grain of salt but I am actually agreeing with a part of the story, i.e when the article states the Royal Wedding , which Chelsy went to as Harry's date, was a "wake-up call" for her.
I think its one thing to date a Royal and you are aware of the responsibilities, duties, and restrictions (as well as the luxury) but to attend a Royal Wedding...is a totally different ball of wax. The number of people, the scale of the wedding, inviting tons of people you don't know but have to because of obligations, etc.
It certainly should and put things in prospective for Chelsy. Harry is a man who is a Prince and the two will always go together. No matter how much they care for each other.
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10-08-2011, 07:25 PM
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I think if Chelsy is smart enough to work out the life isn't for her they won't be getting back together anytime soon. Nothing is going change Harry will always be a Prince. I thought she looked pretty happy with the new guy she has been dating. Time for them both to move on.
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10-08-2011, 07:42 PM
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Doesn't surprise me - but then, its really hard to say what is really going on from random articles and speculation. If these two really loved - as it seems they have done - it will not have 'poof' gone away. It must be a very hard 'negotiation' going on (if it is). Playing the field while you're still in love elsewhere - not easy. If he loves - if she doesn't want to be a Princess - what can be the outcome except assignations and the inevitable sad ending? Replaying his father's scenario? Its likely more on Chelsey to come to terms with it all - if she can - then it would happen.
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10-08-2011, 07:46 PM
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I agree with both Meadow and Zonk.
Chelsy found the baggage that came with dealing a prince difficult to deal with and if they are getting back together it's going to be a lot worse as she now lives in London and will be exposed to the paps on a daily basis. I don't really see these two spending that much time together in the next year or so because if everything goes according to plan, Harry will be training intensively before being deployed back to the frontline. Also, Chelsy as a trainee lawyer, will be extremely busy for the next two years.
Will and Kate's wedding may have opened her eyes to the differences between dating a royal and marrying a royal. And if she still decide to give this relationship another chance and it all goes sour, she'd have no one but herself to blame.
People have been saying they're both young and there's no need to settle down but they're both in their mid 20s now and if neither of them can't really see themselves past the dating phase, they would be better off with people who wouldn't be wasting either of their time.
However, I do think it's still sweet that Chelsy invited him over for send-off meal (If that is actually true).
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10-08-2011, 07:53 PM
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Chelsy found the baggage that came with dealing a prince difficult to deal with and if they are getting back together it's going to be a lot worse as she now lives in London and will be exposed to the paps on a daily basis.
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What better way to avoid all 'the pap' than to be 'officially' just friends. Its possible that that is the only way she can live a normal life as a solicitor trainee - as a 'former girlfriend'. Maybe this is a tactic?
I'm being provocative.  I'm sure she wants to be left alone.
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