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WOW! 
I knew it, I just knew it... the minute I left for my vacation these two would finally be engaged.
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when do you think we will start to receive news from the wedding preparations and other additional plans (their first royal engagements together and so on)? when did they start announcing any information for frederik and mary?
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There are some differences about Marie's engagement that I'm curious about:
-Marie was introduced to the Danish people before even learning Danish
-Marie did not move to Denmark to get to know the land and people before the engagement
-From Marie's interview, it doesn't sound like she got the preparation about Denmark beforehand
Not to compare them again, but Mary was well prepped before she was officially introduced to the Danish people. Is this because she would be the Crown Princess so she had to have everything in place? I'm not sure how it was with Alexandra's interview ie if she already knew Danish or if she had already lived in Denmark before. It just seems a little different for Marie. Also, I would have thought that Marie would move to Denmark to be more "protected" now that she's a soon to be royal. But they made it clear she would not be moving to Denmark until closer to the wedding.
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10-06-2007, 09:26 AM
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There are some differences about Marie's engagement that I'm curious about:
-Marie was introduced to the Danish people before even learning Danish
-Marie did not move to Denmark to get to know the land and people before the engagement
-From Marie's interview, it doesn't sound like she got the preparation about Denmark beforehand
Not to compare them again, but Mary was well prepped before she was officially introduced to the Danish people. Is this because she would be the Crown Princess so she had to have everything in place? I'm not sure how it was with Alexandra's interview ie if she already knew Danish or if she had already lived in Denmark before. It just seems a little different for Marie. Also, I would have thought that Marie would move to Denmark to be more "protected" now that she's a soon to be royal. But they made it clear she would not be moving to Denmark until closer to the wedding.
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Right, Mary is the crown princess...she will be a queen. But Marie is in the second row...i think the facts which you wrote down are not so important to the royal house of Denmark because she never (?) will be a queen.
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10-06-2007, 09:29 AM
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i think the facts which you wrote down are not so important to the royal house of Denmark because she never (?) will be a queen.
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Prince Joachim is the 3rd in the succession to the throne after Crown Prince Frederik, Prince Christian and Princess Isabella.
I'd say it's quite sure that Joachim and Marie will never become the Royal Couple. 
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10-06-2007, 09:32 AM
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Prince Joachim is the 3rd in the succession to the throne after Crown Prince Frederik, Prince Christian and Princess Isabella.
I'd say it's quite sure that Joachim and Marie will never become the Royal Couple. |
I know that....
But it´s not impossible....you know what i mean.
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10-06-2007, 09:45 AM
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I know that....
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Impossible is nothing.  (oops, I'm stealing advertisement slogans here  ).
Well, I don't think it is that bad Marie doesn't speak Danish yet. She'll have enough time now to learn it... she should manage it to learn the basics of the Danish language until her wedding...
Mary's Danish wasn't very good either when she gave her first Interview (oh... now I start to compare them, too  ).
Does anyone know if Prince Henrik was able to speak Danish when he and Margrethe became engaged? Didn't he and Margrethe talk in French with each other?
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Originally Posted by BurberryBrit
There are some differences about Marie's engagement that I'm curious about:
-Marie was introduced to the Danish people before even learning Danish
-Marie did not move to Denmark to get to know the land and people before the engagement
-From Marie's interview, it doesn't sound like she got the preparation about Denmark beforehand
Not to compare them again, but Mary was well prepped before she was officially introduced to the Danish people. Is this because she would be the Crown Princess so she had to have everything in place? I'm not sure how it was with Alexandra's interview ie if she already knew Danish or if she had already lived in Denmark before. It just seems a little different for Marie. Also, I would have thought that Marie would move to Denmark to be more "protected" now that she's a soon to be royal. But they made it clear she would not be moving to Denmark until closer to the wedding.
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I believe Joachim and Marie were not sure when they became engaged if queen and government would allow Joachim to stay a Royal prince and for his second wife to become a princess. I read it was only rather short before the council meeting that Margrete decided about it.
But if Margrete had decided against it, why should the future french wife of Count/Duke of Schakenborg have bothered about learning Danish as fast as possible when her husband himself is half-french? They sounded to me in their press conference as if they were both still surprised of this outcome, thus Marie said she is "honoured" and Joachim said it was not his choice to make about Marie becoming a princess or not.
So they had obviously only a very short time to plan and prepare their Royal future together, while they had quite some time to get used to the idea to become husband and wife at Schackenborg.
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Congratulations to Marie and Joachim, I had expected an announcement of this sort in the near future but it's always nice when it happens!
Marie will be a much needed breath of fresh air to the Royal Family and I for one cannot wait to see how she settles in. She appears to get on very well with the family and more importantly seems to have an amicable relationship with Alex.
It's a shame then that there are quite so many mean-spirited comments towards her on this thread.
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10-06-2007, 02:26 PM
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While I'm happy for them, I can't say I'm thrilled with his choice of the engagement ring, but Marie isn't silly enough to complain. I do wish Joachim had taken Frederik along when he designed the ring, though- Fred gave Mary what is, in my opinion, a gorgeous ring.
Anyway, I believe that Marie will be a better choice for him than Alexandra was (and I say this knowing that I adore Alexandra!). He's older, wiser, and hopefully has a better idea of who he is and what kind of woman would best suit him. She seems to get along well with the boys, but who knows? She also seems to truly idolize and adore Joachim, though, and again, seems more immature and carefree than Alexandra was. She'll grow out of that quickly, as someone else had mentioned, but I noticed that quality, too. But with the age difference between Marie and Joachim, I think the marriage has a better chance this time.
I feel sorry for Alexandra's parents for having to move from their adopted home, but it was a good arrangement for a long time and it shows how amicable the divorce truly was, and how considerate Joachim is. At the end of the day, this blended family truly is a family, no matter what the legal relationships may be.
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10-06-2007, 04:55 PM
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Prince Joachim is the 3rd in the succession to the throne after Crown Prince Frederik, Prince Christian and Princess Isabella.
I'd say it's quite sure that Joachim and Marie will never become the Royal Couple. |
Isn't Joachim 4th in Line?
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Isn't Joachim 4th in Line?
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You are right - he is 4th in line.
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Marie Cavallier reminds me of Mary Donaldson.. but I think Cavallier don't have her personality, don't have that charm like Mary Donaldson...
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Marie Cavallier reminds me of Mary Donaldson.. but I think Cavallier don't have her personality, don't have that charm like Mary Donaldson...
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It would be rather strange if she did have CP Marys personality. Fortunatlely she has got her own
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Hi Lilla .. I see you are from Denmark.. How do you think about Marie and CP Mary.. Do you think they have a good relationship?... Nice to meet you
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Hi Lilla .. I see you are from Denmark.. How do you think about Marie and CP Mary.. Do you think they have a good relationship?...
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How should we know that?
They didn't appear in public together yet and they didn't (really) comment about their relationship yet.
noone of us can comment about their relationship yet...
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I'm not sure if this has been posted in this topic yet, but here is a video clip of the couple. Another photo of the family and of course, yet another photo gallery of Marie courtesy of, you guessed it, Billed Bladet... who else would it be (I mean, come on, who else loves to post thousands of photos every week? The Wall Street Journal?)
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10-06-2007, 06:23 PM
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How should we know that?
They didn't appear in public together yet and they didn't (really) comment about their relationship yet.
noone of us can comment about their relationship yet...
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You are right. Marie simply has not been a public person long enough for us to have any opinion yet 
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I think if Marie puts ample effort into her Danish studies, she'll be just fine. She's already multi-lingual and yes, those romance languages don't really help all that much with Danish but just the fact that she's used to juggling more than one language should give her some assistance. I really do think that Marie knows a little Danish (at least a few words and phrases) but they withheld that information at the interview. Marie's been to Denmark plenty of times. Even if people didn't speak Danish to her, I'm sure she heard the language around her. Mary and Henrik's imperfect Danish plagues them to this day so perhaps the Court is really trying to prep Marie before she speaks the language publicly.
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