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07-26-2009, 07:12 PM
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Then I am guessing this baby should be referred to as Prince Henrik II to avoid any confusion? Right?
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California, it's an American custom! I cannot speak for the other European countries, but we are not familiar with this numbering practise in Denmark. You could add senior or junior, though, if they were father and son!
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07-26-2009, 07:21 PM
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Perhaps they will call him Henri instead of Henrik? I'm sure that the family will have a nickname for him. It will be easy to distinguish the two in written media, especially if they often use the "prinsgemalen" title for Prince Henrik.
Here is an article and photo of Marie's brothers leaving the reception at Schackenborg:
http://www.bt.dk/royale/daabsgaester-gik-glade-hjem
They said that they had a wonderful time at the party. The article also interviewed another guest who said that Joachim and Marie are very relaxed parents, and this has been a positive thing for the baby. The article said that the little prince was awake during the reception, and that Marie chose the flowers for the church herself.
And here is a link to an article that talks about how the royal guests (except for the Queen and Prince Henrik, Felix and Nikolai, and Joachim, Marie, and the baby) arrived together in a bus. They all took the 56 minute journey from Grasten to Schackenborg together. It says that Prince Christian was the first one off the bus.
http://www.seoghoer.dk/Nyheder/Royal...%20bustur.aspx
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07-26-2009, 07:50 PM
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Perhaps they will use one of his other names (Carl or Alain) in everyday life, to avoid confusion with the elder Henrik.
In any case, I doubt there will be much confusion: the Prince and Princess of Asturias named their second daughter Sofia, after Queen Sofia, and I can't see many people confusing the two.
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07-26-2009, 08:21 PM
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Does anyone have a picture of Caroline Heering? I haven't seen any yet. Thanks.
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07-26-2009, 08:46 PM
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About the name, Henrik Carl Joachim Alain....Well I like it, but I didn't expect another Henrik...I was thinking another traditional but unusual name like Felix or Nikolai...but maybe that's where Joachim went wrong with his first marriage, not sticking to traditions and letting his wife make all the important decisions...So, it's back to traditional names with his second wife and she is compliant...and Henrik is a good idea for a first name because it reinforces the French ties to the Danish monarchy, Joachim's dad is French and Marie is honouring her father-in-law which is emphasising those ties...There probably will be confusion between the Henrik's but I think J & M would have thought of that and already have a nickname in mind to distinguish him from his grandfather...I was thinking Prince Henri (on-ree, like the French) or Prince Harry (like the English Prince Henry/Harry) or maybe Prince Carl...they wanted their son to have Henrik as a first name for honouring and official purposes (like if he ever becomes King Henrik) but always had the intention of calling him Carl...
So the name debate continues... 
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I was a little disappointed in the clothing worn by the ladies. It seemed rather colorless, even if they wanted to simplify this christening. It would have been a good opportunity to wear color (even if in simple outfits) just to celebrate this wonderful event and the lovely summer weather.
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07-26-2009, 09:23 PM
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California, it's an American custom! I cannot speak for the other European countries, but we are not familiar with this numbering practise in Denmark. You could add senior or junior, though, if they were father and son!
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In English, "II" is normally used for a boy named after his uncle or grandfather. If he's named for his father, he'd be called, "Jr."
If the son, father, and grandfather all had the same names, the son would be "III." It goes on IV, V, etc.
The tradition here is that men use a suffix only if all their names are identical to their father's (or uncle or grandfather). That's why George W. Bush isn't a "junior"-- his father is George H. W. Bush. So, little Henrik wouldn't be "junior" or a "II."
(In proper form, "Sr." is used only by the widow of the father, never by the man himself. For example, after her husband died, Jackie Kennedy was "Mrs. John F. Kennedy, Sr.")
Anyway, that's probably more than you wanted to know!
Short version: The media here would probably call him Henrik II or Henrik Jr. regardless of the proper form!
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I looked and he also has his own page now!
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I was a little disappointed in the clothing worn by the ladies. It seemed rather colorless, even if they wanted to simplify this christening. It would have been a good opportunity to wear color (even if in simple outfits) just to celebrate this wonderful event and the lovely summer weather.
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I agree , all the Marie and Mary both wore the Grey/Silver tones , for as this would have been an opportunity for something a bit more festive and colourful
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I was wondering that myself, but in the footage after leaving the church, the car drove very slowly through the town whose streets were roped off to other traffic. It looked pretty safe to me.
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07-27-2009, 12:28 AM
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This was a beautiful christening. So glad the baby was named after Henrik, and that both Joachim and Alain were included in the names. The tribute to Carl is also toucing, if done as a tribute to Queen Ingrid's brother, who attended the christening.
Lots of family ties with those names, just beautiful.
The flowers amazing, the way they decorated the church's altar was delicate and very classic, much though and good taste went into this.
All very special, except the dresses - so much beige, and BLACK! Black at a christening? I liked the capelet effect of Prince Gustav's girlfriend - it looked feminine, yet subdued, not a little sweater, as Mary wore. Marie's lace dress did not show well, it looked old fashioned and bunched up at the neckline (the white underdress - lining). Her face and hair were stunning. Joachim beaming, genuinely touched (unless it was pollen allergy that caused the kleenex).
Surely the queen will have a word with Joachim's older two boys about paper airplanes in church. She kept glancing over for a reason.
A lovely ceremony over all. Now Schackenborg has young life again, that in itself is fulfilling. Good for Joachim, Marie, and the family. Many blessings.
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I wish they will called the little Prince Alain, to me is such a beautiful name.
However I don't think they will since it is the last name honoring Marie's father, but I hope. 
On the other hand almost all boys on the family (except Joachim and Nikolai) has the Henri/Henrik on their names, (either the french or the danish version).
Henrik ne Henri Marie Jean André
Frederik Andre Henrik Christian
Joachim Holger Valdemar Christian
Nikolai William Alexander Frederik
Felix Henrik Valdemar Christian
Christian Valdemar Henri John
Henrik Carl Joachim Alain
Isabella Henrietta Ingrid Margrethe (Even though Henrietta comes after Mary's mother's name, Henrietta is also the feminine version of Henri/Henrik/Harry/Henry/Enrique, so they killed two birth with one stone).
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Surely the queen will have a word with Joachim's older two boys about paper airplanes in church. She kept glancing over for a reason.
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Anyways, I was told the paper planes had psalms printed, but don't take my word for it.
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Do you think official pics will be released???
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07-27-2009, 02:30 AM
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I agree , all the Marie and Mary both wore the Grey/Silver tones , for as this would have been an opportunity for something a bit more festive and colourful
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Toned down colours are a very Scandinavian minimalistic sort of thing! It's cultural, Scandinavians normally don't like being too conspicuous! We do wear colours, but not to the same extend as in say, warmer climates. It's difficult to explain  .......I think it has something to do with the intensity of the sunlight. IMO the stronger colours come out when it's hot and sunny, but when it's gets cooler we tend to tone down again. We don't really think about it, it's second nature.
Sorry for wandering off the subject, but some of you noticed ......
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Anyway, that's probably more than you wanted to know! Short version: The media here would probably call him Henrik II or Henrik Jr. regardless of the proper form!
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Kalnel, on the contrary, it was very enlightening, thank you!
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I have another solution in the difference question:
The husband of the Queen is Prins Henrik af Danmark, and the little prince is Prins Henrik til Danmark.
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The toned-down colours are also a way to concentrate the attention to the one celebrated.
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