Working Visit to Copenhagen by the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge: November 2, 2011

[EIIR]

I very much doubt that William and Kate will ever go to their European counterparts for advice or unbiased comment. They seem confident enough of themselves and will have the support of family, friends and advisors to see them through. I think people just need to accept that the British RF are not particularly close with their continental neighbours and that there's nothing wrong with that.

With regards to this particular visit, I think it is justified as Will and Kate have an extremely high profile at the moment, higher than any other royals. They obviously know that everywhere they go news crews from literally all over the world follow them. So they're determined to use the attention to highlight this issue which has become in danger of falling out of the daily news cycle. This makes complete and total sense to me and is exactly what the RF should be doing.

[Viv]

Originally Posted by EIIR

I personally don't see how Will and Kate 'need' any other royal family or to particularly cultivate relationships with them. Rightly or wrongly, other royal families are not known in the UK, there is very little press coverage of other royals. I'm not saying this is a good thing but it is reality.

You won't get any abuse from me, because that's the way things are! But then again, try to see things from our vantage point: Maybe it would do the general image of the BRF good if they appeared less indifferent towards theircontinental 'cousins'?

viv

[EIIR]

Originally Posted by Viv

You won't get any abuse from me, because that's the way things are! But then again, try to see things from our vantage point: Maybe it would do the general image of the BRF good if they appeared less indifferent towards theircontinental 'cousins'?

viv

Thanks for understanding and I get what you're saying. I think from the BRF's point of view though, they have more than enough work on their hands in ensuring that they remain relevant and popular in the UK and the 15 other realms in which the Queen is head of state!

I think also people underestimate the fact that British people, again speaking generally, feel a separation from the rest of Europe and feel much more of a kinship with other English speaking nations. Recent opinion polls showing large proportions of the public wanting the UK to withdraw from the EU altogether is testament to that fact.

[grevinnan]

Originally Posted by EIIR

I very much doubt that William and Kate will ever go to their European counterparts for advice or unbiased comment. They seem confident enough of themselves and will have the support of family, friends and advisors to see them through. I think people just need to accept that the British RF are not particularly close with their continental neighbours and that there's nothing wrong with that.

With regards to this particular visit, I think it is justified as Will and Kate have an extremely high profile at the moment, higher than any other royals. They obviously know that everywhere they go news crews from literally all over the world follow them. So they're determined to use the attention to highlight this issue which has become in danger of falling out of the daily news cycle. This makes complete and total sense to me and is exactly what the RF should be doing.

Once this event is over the only item highlighted in peoples awareness will be Fredrik and Mary. William and Catherine don't need this kind of photo-op and the African relief has been mostly lost in the media.

[crm2317]

I'm excited to watch some of this visit by the royals. I'm just curious as to what the protocol is. Will Kate be expected to curtsey to Mary?

[Charlotte1]

Originally Posted by crm2317

I'm excited to watch some of this visit by the royals. I'm just curious as to what the protocol is. Will Kate be expected to curtsey to Mary?

No, they are both Royal Highnesses. In Denmark Kate would only curtsey to Queen Margarethe as she is Her Majesty.

[iceflower]

Here are the first pics of the arrival



** Pic ** bt.dk: Nu skal Will og Kate til frokost hos Mary og Frede **

[Viv]

bt.dk reports that the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge arrived at Amalienborg at 12.31. There's a grainy photograph of Kate wearing a red coat.
Viv

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by EIIR

Thanks for understanding and I get what you're saying. I think from the BRF's point of view though, they have more than enough work on their hands in ensuring that they remain relevant and popular in the UK and the 15 other realms in which the Queen is head of state!

I think also people underestimate the fact that British people, again speaking generally, feel a separation from the rest of Europe and feel much more of a kinship with other English speaking nations. Recent opinion polls showing large proportions of the public wanting the UK to withdraw from the EU altogether is testament to that fact.

Britain and fifteen realms. How many in a generation from now?
Until recently immigrants to Australia and Canada, to mention two of the most populous countries, were predominantly from English speaking countries, or at least from Europe.
However the demographic of these two countries is changing. Will the BRF have the same relevance for the population in these two countries in a generation from now as it has today?
Won't Britain risk end up being an isolated enclave in the outskirts of a vast EU?
An EU that is a much more attractive market than Britain?

- That is if EU survives in it's present form....
As a matter of fact I do think the BRF can have a considerable role to play in the Commonwealth realms, because they are above domestic politics and possible demographic differencies. - If they adapt to the new times that is.

Also, the sentiments towards EU are hardly enthusiastic here in DK either! Certainly not these days!


On another note.
A video from TV2 news: William og Kate er landet i Danmark - TV 2 Nyhederne

Showing the arrival of W&K to Amalienborg.
You won't have to see the clip as there is only a glimpse of W&K.

There was a considerable turn out on Amalienborg Square, not least from Britons living in DK.

[Baroness of Books]

Originally Posted by Nordic

Maybe they could wear the exact same outfit and hairstyle...

That might not be a bad idea!

[antonieta]

Originally Posted by Baroness of Books

That might not be a bad idea!

I dont't think that's a good idea either!

[Baroness of Books]

Well, obviously my remark was made very tongue in cheek; no one actually expects identical outfits or hairstyles but certainly nothing to upstage the occasion.

[Nordic]

Originally Posted by Baroness of Books

Well, obviously my remark was made very tongue in cheek; no one expects identical outfits or hairstyles but certainly nothing to upstage the occasion.

And mine too

[soapstar]

Originally Posted by grevinnan

It makes no sense for the Brittish royal couple to fly to Denmark for a couple of hours of photo op packing boxes for African relief shipments. This entire visit looks like two celebrity couples desperate attempts to stay on the front pages.

If the African relief was the concern then plan something substantial that would bring attention to the plight of the victims and money, goods and services to combat it. At the end of the visit the only thing anyone will remember will be Kate and Mary and their outfits.

Someone's PR people must have worked overtime to put this idea together. This is the type of event that puts into question the relevance of royals.

I actually disagree. I think this visit will bring a lot of attention to the charity. Just take a look at the engagement that Catherine did last week. Despite the fact that the media choose to focus on her scar, the charity still got a lot of attention. They put out a statement saying they were overwhelmed by the amount of calls and interest that the engagement generated. So, while the media may spend too much time on Kate and Mary's wardrobe, UNICEF will still receive a lot of attention from this visit.

[Marika86]

Duke and Duchess of Cambridge to visit UNICEF

[crm2317]

Does anyone have the link to the live coverage I'm struggling to find it.

[Kit]

you can watch the twitter page of unicef. there are also two pics of Wills and Kate's first sighting, Kate is wearing a red coat.

First (unconfirmed) sighting of the royal couple as they lunch w/ Danish royals. Not long now! #eastafricacrisis

two pics of Wills and Kate and the twitter homepage of unicef http://twitter.com/#!/unicef_uk

[crm2317]

Originally Posted by Kit

you can watch the twitter page of unicef. there are also two pics of Wills and Kate's first sighting, Kate is wearing a red coat.

Thanks but did someone not say we could watch live coverage on a danish media website?

[ricarda]

Originally Posted by grevinnan

Once this event is over the only item highlighted in peoples awareness will be Fredrik and Mary. William and Catherine don't need this kind of photo-op and the African relief has been mostly lost in the media.

To say William&Kate don't need this kind of photo-op is ridiculous.
I am pretty sure it was the BRF who came up with the idea of this visit.
IMO Frederik and Mary are only playing hosts (as Felipe&Letizia did with Charles&Camilla). The heir to the heir can't be received by the Queen after all, even though the BRF may be more popular than the DRF.

[TortillaChips]

It's on BBC News if that's any use to anyone