What is your opinion of Frederik and Mary - Page 2

paca · #21 01-10-2006, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by regardez

i think they just have more publicity than the other royals you mentioned. I knew about Mary before I became interested in royalty, but had never heard of the other ones.

But this is a chicken and egg question. Are they more popular because they have more publicity? Or do they have more publicity because they are more popular? I think people really like the cinderella type stories.

I was drawn to it because of the cross-atlantic relationship and the fact that she had to move to a totally different country and learn a new language for love. And has done a really good job for her new country.

But the same is true for Maxima, isn't it?

Little_star · #22 01-10-2006, 07:45 AM

"Little_star

You have had it confirmed to your satisfaction I'm sure, but more than likely not to anyone elses.:) Does your family know her???
Probably not.

Jaques D."

My cousin has attended events where Mary has been present 9 times now and spoken to her on 5 of those occasions. Each time she has come away more and more disappointed, which is a great shame considering how excited she was by the marriage.

Do you know Mary?

paca · #23 01-10-2006, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by princess olga

I'm with you but all the same, I was wondering about their winning that poll because it showed they are more popular evidently than even Felipe of Spain, which seemed at least interesting..I mean, after all, no matter what we might think of them, Felipe and Letizia aren't exactly ugly people, and the cinderella story would apply to Letizia as well, non?! Or even to Maxima. That's my confusion..why are Fred n Mary so much more popular? I think you're right and it probably has to do with the exposure and PR in the press. Because again, compared to Felipe and Letizia, and even Alexander and Maxima, the Danish crown-princely couple seems very UNaccomplished, imo.

Fair. but again, that counts for Maxima as well, perhaps even more so..she was from an "emerging market" sort of country, whereas Mary came from a first world economy and went to live in another.

I think the fact that felipe and Letizia weren't voted, is 1. de to the fact that a lot of people lost interest in him once he got married, 2. the Danish wedding was very emotional (lots of tears and warm words) whereas the Spanish weeding was a bit stiff and more quiet, which was due to the circumstances and also the Spanish protocol is much stiffer then the Danish. Also their countries are very different, thus their role is different. Spain is politically not as settled as Denmark, it has been troubled by terrorist attacks from Eta and al Qaida, so really a totally different background that requiers a different type of royalty. ANd maybe they are just more serious by character. Letizia was a news presenter, being confronted every day with all the bad news that happened around her. So a glamourous fashionloving princess wouldn't go down very well. She needs to tread much more carefully then Mary.

And btw I don't think that popularity is the important thing. Important is what they finally achieve and stand for and what they will be measured by in the long run.

ceci · #24 01-10-2006, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Warren

If there was a similar poll in Hola! it would, unsurprisingly, represent the Spanish-speaking readership, and the results would probably be quite different.
If we had separate polls on these Forums directed at English speakers and at Spanish speakers we would get diffrent results. That is stating the obvious.

In fact there was a poll in Hola! last year and Maxima won in every category.
Letizia is not so popular in Spain and Latin America as the Spain Royal House would like. She still looks cold and stiff, she has not her own agenda and she remains as Felipe`s shadow. Mary had to learn a new language and a new way of living and she managed to be independent and to be able to speak by herself as Maxima had done before.
In the other hand, Letizia is not allowed to be independent, her outfits are boring to death, and she doesn´t seem ready to her role. So how do you expect her to be popular????

Gloriana · #25 01-10-2006, 10:26 AM

I dunno, I personally think the Spanish wedding was just as touching as the Danish one. I always thought Felipe and Letizia looked very much in love, with those little looks they kept sending each other, the little forehead-kisses, etc. Just as sweet as Fred and Mary, only more subtle.

bbb · #26 01-10-2006, 10:28 AM

"And btw I don't think that popularity is the important thing. Important is what they finally achieve and stand for and what they will be measured by in the long run."

Well said paca!!!! Bravo

I love Fred and Mary, because of them i found this forum, and i love it here.

Little_star · #27 01-10-2006, 10:29 AM

"Just as sweet as Fred and Mary, only more subtle."

Agreed, Frederick and Mary remind me of the Beckhams with their over the top displays of affection and love.

paca · #28 01-10-2006, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Little_star

"Just as sweet as Fred and Mary, only more subtle."

Agreed, Frederick and Mary remind me of the Beckhams with their over the top displays of affection and love.

Give it a couple of ears and that will all slow down like in every other relationship. The only problem they will encounter then is, that people will immediately jump to the conclusion that they are on the verge of divorce. as much as the press loves to print the kissing pics, the more they will jump on them as soon as they don't show their affection publicly. It is a double edged knife. Let's hope they can deal with it.

If you show it less, it will take people longer to notice that things change and if you really have a problem you have the chance to sort things out before evryone else talks about it.

UserDane · #29 01-10-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Little_star

"Just as sweet as Fred and Mary, only more subtle."

Agreed, Frederick and Mary remind me of the Beckhams with their over the top displays of affection and love.

'Over the top displays of affection and love' Over the top - on somebody's wedding day?? I'm pleased to say that I don't understand that reasoning.

carlota · #30 01-10-2006, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Little_star

My cousin has attended events where Mary has been present 9 times now and spoken to her on 5 of those occasions. Each time she has come away more and more disappointed, which is a great shame considering how excited she was by the marriage.

thanks for your contribution, little star. can you tell us why she got dissapointed? does your cousin live in denmark or she got to see her somewhere else?
i must admit i was one of the other people who got surprised about the fred-mary mania and always wanted to know what was so captivating about them for their fans... :)

Liva · #31 01-10-2006, 01:00 PM

I must admit I dont see it either. They do look very much in love, but most of their gestures are loving looks at each other and a few kisses at their weddingday and one time during their summer tour around denmark. Other than that, they do not kiss a lot in public, at least not what I have seen. I like this cute couple very much and I think their "display" of emotions are just right. Not too much and not too little.:)

Liva · #32 01-10-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Little_star

"Little_star

My cousin has attended events where Mary has been present 9 times now and spoken to her on 5 of those occasions. Each time she has come away more and more disappointed, which is a great shame considering how excited she was by the marriage.

I do not doubt that your cousin has met her, but as you said yourself, she met her at events. She may not have talked to her for long. I live in a town in denmark where we had a terrible accident(dont know if that is the right word) in one of the suburbs of my town in november 2004, where a factory that produced fireworks exploded with 3000 tons of gunpowder and a lot of families lost their homes. Well, Frederik and Mary came to visit some of these families, a gesture very much apreciated. I did not lose my home, but I have lived in the area and some of my friends did lose their homes. Their view of Frederik and Mary was just the opposite. They were very touched by their sencerity and their ability to talk to these people. It´s not easy. What does one say to people who have just lost their homes, but they did a very good job according to my friends, and were very open and friendly. And this was not a big media event. It happened behind closed doors. There are few pictures of them coming and leaving the place, but the meeting was held in private. Just to give an example of a different view/situation.

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Originally Posted by little_star

Do you know Mary?

I dont think any of us know Mary or any other royal member of any royal family. I do not, your cousin does not and my friends do not.

Ethel · #33 01-10-2006, 01:29 PM

They are popular simply because they are the perfect Crown Prince Couple...

There are no divorces, parents not attending the wedding, previous children, scandals, skeletons in their closet, in their background. Sorry, but that's the truth...

They are a royal couple that IMO look the way a royal Crown Prince Couple should look like. They are both gorgeous, not boring at all, stylish, they are loved in their country, they are involved in charity work, they work hard to promote their country, they are also discreet and have this mistery around them which makes them even more appealing.

I like them very much, they seem like very down to earth people and very much in love. A perfect fairytale.

Liva · #34 01-10-2006, 01:39 PM

I agree with you Ethel on your views on the couple:) Dont know if the poll is totally fair if people can vote more than once, but that does not change my views on this couple. They are just lovely

Mahoogie · #35 01-10-2006, 01:46 PM

No way..I dont agree with the poll..Letizia and Felipe are a better couple, its just that my vote didnt count.lol.

..I have nothing against Princess Mary personally, I admire her beauty, respect her hard work and even defended her on the other thread, its just that sometimes I dont like the way she projects herself..maybe its on her facial expression like the look on her eyes or the mannerism of having her chin-up,with that, she looks arrogant to me and the Queen of Denmark is much down-to-earth..I dont mean to offend anyone here especially Marys fans, this is just my honest opinion..

Sancia · #36 01-10-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Margrethe II

HRH the Crown Princess is most definitly an intelligent indavidual. There is no doubt whatsoever about that!"MII"

The curriculum vitae of the Crown Princess only says us she's obviously very gifted for studies and she worked hard to study, somethingg (unfortunately?) not directly related to intelligence. One can be brilliant or very brilliant in a subject and have no intelligence about quite others things or have a poor conversation. This is not a against-Mary speech (even if I'm not one of her greatest supporters) but something I stated. I don't mean to offensive against her but just to remind we need other evidences than a scholar curriculum vitae to state one's intelligence.

Ethel · #37 01-10-2006, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Danielane

The curriculum vitae of the Crown Princess only says us she's obviously very gifted for studies and she worked hard to study, somethingg (unfortunately?) not directly related to intelligence. One can be brilliant or very brilliant in a subject and have no intelligence about quite others things or have a poor conversation. This is not a against-Mary speech (even if I'm not one of her greatest supporters) but something I stated. I don't mean to offensive against her but just to remind we need other evidences than a scholar curriculum vitae to state one's intelligence.

Well, I believe the fact that she worked in top companies tells us about her intelligence, doesn't it?? I don't think she got jobs there just because she was a good student, sorry but that's just not real.

Saragli · #38 01-10-2006, 02:54 PM

People are too quick to fall into the fairytale motif of this relationship. I like them both. Letizia has a stiff upper lip but that is because she is a journalist. She is keen to know things, understand things, but is trained to seem unaffected by things. When your on air you have to seem nuetral and Letizia is still like that. That doesnt meen she is cold.

Tinika · #39 01-10-2006, 03:04 PM

I suppose the thing that 'bothers' me about them is also the thing that makes them appealing to so many people - they seem to be quite ordinary people who happen to be royal.

Jasl · #40 01-10-2006, 03:04 PM

its interesting to read the numerous posts (sometimes coming from the same poster) asking "what's so good about Frederik and Mary anway?"

I suppose I used to be like that as well. And the obvious hit me: not everyone is the same and we all have different opinions.

I personally adore the couple :) I think Mary has been very brave, has done things her own way, has done a lot in the time since she has joined the royal family (not only appearing at functions, but the behind the scenes contribution, some of which we know about), and how Frederik and Mary just look so right for each other.

On the other hand, I can't interest myself in some of the royals that others find so interesting: "bleh, who cares" (though I'm trying to wean myself out of being slack like that) Why? Because we're all different.

Perhaps instead of focusing on why others find so and so interesting, we ought to focus on what interests us.

But of course that's only my opinion and everyone's different.