Twin Prince and Princess for Frederik & Mary: January 8, 2011 - Page 41

RoyalEnquirer · #**801** 01-13-2011, 05:51 AM

Darn! I guess we'll have to wait another day. I truly hope Billed-Bladet is right about Friday, because I'm going to be out of town this weekend..

FasterB · #**802** 01-13-2011, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Zonk

I love the name Dagmar.

Dagmar was the younger sister of Queen Alexandra. The mother of the ill fated Nicholas II of Russia. A lot of history with her. Married the brother of her deceased finace, but it was apparently grew into a love match. Her nephew George V sent a ship for her to get her out of Russia, following the Revolution. She spent her last remaining years in Denmark. Mary and Fred attended her reburial in Russia a couple of years back.

And add to that Denmark had a queen named Dagmar, who was married to King Valdemar II.
English link: Dagmar of Bohemia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Danish link: Dronning Dagmar - Wikipedia, den frie encyklopædi

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Originally Posted by Muhler

Christian himself will not get the title of crown prince until he turns eighteen and has signed a pledge to obey the Constitution. Until then he will just be the heir.

Are you sure about that? IIRC then CP Frederik was refered to as CP after his mother became queen

But I can be wrong - I was 9 at the time of CP Frederik turning 18, so perhaps it´s my memory... You know "all the time I have known him, he has been CP"

justcurious · #**803** 01-13-2011, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Iluvbertie

I find that interesting as I have always heard the word 'dag' to describe the type of person who is the loner, the friendless, the one who is bullied but never the nerd or goofy one - they are often the ones using the term.

'Dag' I guess is a pretty broad slang in Aus. I myself would call my husband a dag when he insists on wearing boardies and a singlet to one of my friends birthday parties. Or if something was boring, people would describe as 'daggy'. I live in North Sydney near the Northern beaches so I'm not sure everywhere else.

Muhler · #**804** 01-13-2011, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FasterB

Are you sure about that? IIRC then CP Frederik was refered to as CP after his mother became queen

But I can be wrong - I was 9 at the time of CP Frederik turning 18, so perhaps it´s my memory... You know "all the time I have known him, he has been CP"

I believe so, yes.
I believe calling Christian crown prince before he is eighteen is strictly speaking incorrect. In the same way as Frederik is called Crown Prince of Denmark, when his correct title is to Denmark.
Anyway, no matter what, when QMII dies, Christian will automatically become the aknowledged Heir whether his father is alive or not. And that's what matters.

FasterB · #**805** 01-13-2011, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Muhler

I believe so, yes.
I believe calling Christian crown prince before he is eighteen is strictly speaking incorrect. In the same way as Frederik is called Crown Prince of Denmark, when his correct title is to Denmark.
Anyway, no matter what, when QMII dies, Christian will automatically become the aknowledged Heir whether his father is alive or not. And that's what matters.

I willl trust you in this matter

smiley · #**806** 01-13-2011, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlotte_Aster

a boy and a girtl!!!!!

Congratulations to Frederik, Mary, Christian and Isabella on the Birth of the twins. Lovely news.

Muhler · #**807** 01-13-2011, 08:03 AM

Summary of a lot of articles in Billed Bladet #02, 2011.
Written by practically every reporter on the magazine.

There are a number of additional details in the articles.

To say that Frederik was overjoyed would be the understatement of the year!
During the birth he supported Mary as best he could by cooling her forehead. After the birth of Elvis, he held his new son, while Mary was busy giving birth to Shirley.
After the births he was still high on adrenalin and were all over the maternity ward, chatting to the staff and everybody else he got near.
He drove the twins around in their cot and made sure they could hear his voice, when he wasn't attending to Mary. - In short: Behaving like a normal new father.
When the family arrived a couple of champagne bottles was heard popping.
After a couple of days he was apparantly somewhat wasted, after having taken care, of the twins, Mary and the older children as well. Also at night.

Prior to the birth, Rigshospitalet ordered four sets of ecological bedlinen form a shop, from where Mary herself bought bedlinen after giving birth to Christian. The store is: Purebaby.
As Rigshospitalet no doubt possess a set of bedlinen or two, it has been deduced that these four sets where for the royal twins.
Two sets in beige and two in green.

Billed Bladet appear to have phones every single member of Mary's family! Suffice to say that they are all delighted.

Anja Alajdi, Mary's stylist and friend gave an assessment of the twins: They have Marys' colors.

Helle Reedts-Thott claims Elvis resemble Christian. (*)

The Swedish Turtledoves, aka Victoria and Daniel also send their best wishes: "It's a joyous occasion for the DRF. We are very delighted on behalf of Crown Prince Frederik and Crown Princess and we are jätteglade/overjoyed it went well".

Grandpapa Henrik gave Mary a piece of jewelry as maternity gift, without going into details.

Joachim and our Marie along with Bette Henrik is currently on holiday on Ibiza, Spain. With them are Britt and Oscar Siebye and their children.
They will return to DK late this week.
Frederik told Joachim about the news on the phone.

There is also a full transcript of Frederik's meeting with the press, at least the Danish press. I may translate that later as a reference. We'll see.

The birth:
05.15: Frederik alerts Rigshospitalet.
05.50: M&F leave Amalienborg.
06.00: M&F arrive at Rigshospitalet and are recieved by the maternity team.
10.30: Elvis is born. Frederik cuts the umbillical cord. After a short stay with mother, he ends up in the arms of Frederik.
10.56: Shirley is born. Both children are now placed with their mother.
11.38: Frederik meets the press.

The birth was not a surprise. Friday evening a part of the delivery ward had been cordoned off as it was expected Mary would give brith during the weekend.

Mary's contractions started in earnest in the middle of the night to Saturday. John Donaldson was present when Mary's contractions really began to set in: "None of us present at Amalienborg that morning was in doubt as to what was going to happen during the next hours".

Mary had opened up five centimetres on arrival. The birth started spontanous and a C-section was never considered.
Mary got an epiduarl.
Both twins scored top marks on the Apgar scale.

(*) I've never been able to understand how people can tell how a newborn can resemble someone specific. They have to be at least several months before I can see anything myself.

**Stefan** · #**808** 01-13-2011, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Muhler

It's the monarch who decides what title Mary will have if she remarry. - Or in this case where Christian is under eighteen, it would be the official regent, Joachim.
She would at the very least lose the title of crown princess no later than when Christian turns eighteen. - There can only be one crown princess: Christian's wife.
Christian himself will not get the title of crown prince until he turns eighteen and has signed a pledge to obey the Constitution. Until then he will just be the heir.

However, should Mary have become a queen, before Frederik dies, she will not lose that title. She will remain queen.
Should she remarry, we would have an interesting situation on our hands. My guess is that she voluntarily will give up her title as queen and take a lesser title.

But didn't Frederik became Crown prince in 1972. That's what i always thought. Perhaps mary would became the Dowager Crown Princess or something like this but perhaps this is to oldfashioned now.

justcurious · #**809** 01-13-2011, 08:07 AM

Thank you for sharing that Muhler.

Muhler · #**810** 01-13-2011, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

But didn't Frederik became Crown prince in 1972. That's what i always thought. Perhaps mary would became the Dowager Crown Princess or something like this but perhaps this is to oldfashioned now.

I begin to doubt myself, Stefan

Anyway, the main thing is that Frederik/Christian is aknowledged as the heir.
That was a big problem for the first 700 years of Danish history, until the introduction of Absolutism in the 1660's.
Until then, in theory, anyone could become king. In reality the king was elected and/or aknowledged from the same extended family.

You are welcome, Jutscurious.

It will no doubt please you to know that Frederik's pants are more than well featured in this weeks issue....

Sternchen · #**811** 01-13-2011, 09:00 AM

According to Berlingske the twins are jaundice?

Royale tvillinger ramt af gulsot - Danmark

Machine translation

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dbarn67 · #**812** 01-13-2011, 10:05 AM

Jaundice is common in new borns. They'll need to stay under the billy lights for awhile. Here in the U.S. the hospitals will sometimes send the babies home in a billy-blanket until the billyrubin is broken down and cleared from the babies' systems.

Best of luck for a speedy recovrery to 1 or both of the babies.

Sternchen · #**813** 01-13-2011, 10:18 AM

Well, I am glad that the twins are being taken proper care of, as Sisse Sejr-Noergaard wrote a stupid article about Mary and the twins receiving special treatment, because they are royal...

Marika86 · #**814** 01-13-2011, 10:29 AM

I don't think that jaundice is a big deal. Often the babies born with this pathology. Also my cousin was born with the jaundice 28 years ago and now is a beautiful young man without any kind of problems

MissSaga · #**815** 01-13-2011, 10:31 AM

Im sorry, can someone explain to me why the princess is nicknames Shirley?

Sternchen · #**816** 01-13-2011, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Marika86

I don't think that jaundice is a big deal. Often the babies born with this pathology. Also my cousin was born with the jaundice 28 years ago and now is a beautiful young man without any kind of problems

I don't think it is a big issue either, as you can see with Christian, he is a healthy and happy boy

What annoyed me was the article from BT, that Mary and the twins were receiving prefered treatment on the back of commoner mums. Well, I guess dear Sisse was wrong...

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Originally Posted by MissSaga

Im sorry, can someone explain to me why the princess is nicknames Shirley?

Fred joked, that they will nickname the boy Elvis as he was born on the same date as the little prince

So someone (sorry, can't remember who!) checked which female celebrity was born on the same date, and found Shirley Bassey

Catharina · #**817** 01-13-2011, 11:31 AM

Well, at least we don't have to speculate anymore. Tomorrow it is!

I wonder how common jaundice with babies is since I've rarely seen one who hasn't turned yellow after birth.

Most do however turn back to normal even without hospital treatment.

On a side note, I think my Danish is getting better and better after reading all the articles.

Of course Swedish skills do help a bit.

lancchick · #**818** 01-13-2011, 12:55 PM

I'm thrilled, really that they'll do the photo op in the late afternoon. The last two days, I get online in the morning in fear it's already happened (nine hour time difference.) Not that taped video is a bad thing. But, it will be fun to see it live!

MissSaga · #**819** 01-13-2011, 02:44 PM

I can't wait

It's gonna be epic to see Mary, Frederik and TWO BABIES! I wonder what color Mary will be wearing - something gener-neutral no doubt...white? beige? I'm sure she will look absolutely radiating.

CharlotteAmalia · #**820** 01-13-2011, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Catharina

... I wonder how common jaundice with babies is since I've rarely seen one who hasn't turned yellow after birth.

Most do however turn back to normal even without hospital treatment..

"Jaundice newborns have an apparent icteric sclera, and yellowing of the face, extending down onto the chest. This condition is common in upwards of 70% of newborns" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonatal_jaundice , percentage is unsure, because German wikipedia says 60 % Neugeborenengelbsucht )