Princess Isabella's First Day of Primary School: August 13, 2013


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she is soooo pretty and this blue eyes like her father, stunning!!!!! I think she has a great personality and she did great with the photographers!!!!! I love her blouse!!!!only one question: why they went back to the palace, did they take her to the school by car?
 
So since she's 6 and a half, is the school more like our first grade in the States?

You know, that's a good question. The children I taught this past year are all starting kindergarten this September, and they're all pretty much able to do what Isabella can; they can write their names (at least spell last names, but most are able to write full name), count to twenty, recite the alphabet, recognize the upper and lower case letters as well as the sounds that they make, and pick out some words. These skills are what public schools expect here in NYC. It woud be great to find out if it's the same in Denmark.
 
she is soooo pretty and this blue eyes like her father, stunning!!!!! I think she has a great personality and she did great with the photographers!!!!! I love her blouse!!!!only one question: why they went back to the palace, did they take her to the school by car?

Yes, they did. There is a clip somewhere. Where M&F are driving out of the gate, with Bella sitting behind. - Presumably Christian was already at school.

You know, that's a good question. The children I taught this past year are all starting kindergarten this September, and they're all pretty much able to do what Isabella can; they can write their names (at least spell last names, but most are able to write full name), count to twenty, recite the alphabet, recognize the upper and lower case letters as well as the sounds that they make, and pick out some words. These skills are what public schools expect here in NYC. It woud be great to find out if it's the same in Denmark.

0 Grade is what beforhand was known as "børnehaveklasse = kindergarten-class" which is basically preschool. This is the transition between kindergarten and regular school and as such a mix of both.
I'd estimate that a little more than 90 % of all children in DK come straight from kindergarten or daycare. Some are fortunate to have dedicated parents like M&F who play and teach basic skills into them from home. Others are less fortunate and for those it may be quite a shock to go from kindergarten straight to sitting in a class. Others are still not mature enough so they may have to attend 0 grade again at an age where this will not be such a big personal defeat for them.
Tranegaards School is among the best state schools in DK. Partly due to the geographical location and partly due to the fact that strong and dedicated parents let their children attend this school, which again means that the school attract better teachers. It's a positive spiral, while other state schools of course have a negative spiral.
I'd estimate that Isabella's skills are average for 0 graders in that school and for the better half of state schools in general.

SFO = Skolefritidsordning = school-freetime-arrangement. Depending on age the children can, but are not required to, attend here after regular school hours under supervision. Here they can do their homework, play, hang out with friends and so on, until their parents get home from work or they go to something else like sports or simply go home.
That will change from next year where children will go to school for 30-37 hours a week and where there will be a blurred overlapping of regular classes and SFO and this is mandatory.

In DK children are obliged to attend school for ten years, starting with 0 grade and usually ending in 9th grade. (In my time 10th grade was normal, for eleven years at shool).
More than 90 % (the aim is 100 %) of all children who leave 9th grade go on to high school (more than 60 %), lasting three years or a branch related technical school, usually also lasting some three years or a continuation school, which is a kind of boarding school lasting one year, after which you are expected to attend either HF, which is a two year version of High School or a branch related school.
By now the pupils are 18-19 years old. Many take a year off, others go on to university or a more specialised technical school or a business school. Some get a job, others are eligible for conscription which today is practically 100 % voluntary and as such something they want. Some sign up for relief projects abroad, others will go sailing for a year and so on. With the majority finishing their education in their early to mid 20s.
We can expect this is something Isabella and the twins will do. - For Christian things will be a little different. He is basically required to join the military after high school and become an officer before going to the university.
 
A nice picture of mother and daughter.. yes it was windy weather yesterday :p

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Ekstra Bladet - Amerikanerne roser lille Isabella
Isabella's school bag is from Alpine and is actually one of the market's cheapest school bags. It costs 349 Danish kroner (about 47 euros) and can be bought in Toys'R'Us. Yet it is remarkably a bag of good quality. Several tests has given good score in terms of weight, fit, features and strength of straps and buckles.

My own daughter's school bag is an Alpine too and I will almost guarantee that Bella one day will run into another little schoolgirl with the same school bag as Alpine is very common among school bags for Danish children.
 
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SFO = Skolefritidsordning = school-freetime-arrangement. Depending on age the children can, but are not required to, attend here after regular school hours under supervision. Here they can do their homework, play, hang out with friends and so on, until their parents get home from work or they go to something else like sports or simply go home.
That will change from next year where children will go to school for 30-37 hours a week and where there will be a blurred overlapping of regular classes and SFO and this is mandatory.

Thanks Muhler for your explanation on the Danish educational system: most interesting.
30-37 hours a week in school is a lot!! It's sad that it's mandatory. So, both Isabella and Christian will stay in school for so many hours?

A nice picture of mother and daughter.. yes it was windy weather yesterday :p

http://24.media.tumblr.com/afca30928dcf97dba333149747ccac0a/tumblr_mrhqnc9WfR1sq4lwho1_500.png

Pretty comparison! Doesn't Princess Isabella look much older that Prince Christian was? I guess it's true that girls are a bit ahead of boys!

I would think that 30-37 hours at school a week would be pretty normal. If school starts at 9 and goes until 3 that's 6 hours a day, for 35 hours a week.

I suppose you are right. It's just that I am used to when I went to elementary school and I went for 20 hours a week and still got an excellent education. I think more hours do not necessarily make a better school or a better childhood experience. For a 6 year-old it seems a long day. Basically a regular work week (at least a French 35-hour work load!! :)). I am stressing out about when my oldest one will start first grade next year! :ohmy:
 
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Thanks Muhler for your explanation on the Danish educational system: most interesting.
30-37 hours a week in school is a lot!! It's sad that it's mandatory. So, both Isabella and Christian will stay in school for so many hours?

I would think that 30-37 hours at school a week would be pretty normal. If school starts at 9 and goes until 3 that's 6 hours a day, for 35 hours a week.
 
Isabella wont have that many hours of school - not in the first couple of years. Christian is getting there, but it still isn't too bad for him. When I was in 0 grade, I was in school from 8:00-11:55 am every day, and I can imagine that Bella's day is quite alike (though I don't know, Tranegårdsskolen might have different time tables than my old old school). That's a rough 18 hours a week which isn't too bad for a six year old. My sister, a fifth grader, has around 28 hours a week, more or less, which isn't too bad either. It isn't until you reach the higher grades that it gets tough (and then when you move on to the Danish High School it's just pure torture, I'm going back on Monday and I don't even want to think about my 8:00 am-5:55 pm days).
 
Isabella wont have that many hours of school - not in the first couple of years. Christian is getting there, but it still isn't too bad for him. When I was in 0 grade, I was in school from 8:00-11:55 am every day, and I can imagine that Bella's day is quite alike (though I don't know, Tranegårdsskolen might have different time tables than my old old school). That's a rough 18 hours a week which isn't too bad for a six year old. My sister, a fifth grader, has around 28 hours a week, more or less, which isn't too bad either. It isn't until you reach the higher grades that it gets tough (and then when you move on to the Danish High School it's just pure torture, I'm going back on Monday and I don't even want to think about my 8:00 am-5:55 pm days).
Danish high school runs from 8 to 5:55?:ohmy:
 
Danish high school runs from 8 to 5:55?:ohmy:

In my first semester of college, my Tuesday schedule was 8:00-6:00 with breaks from 9:30-11:00 and 12:30-2:00. I usually had mid-morning coffee during my first break and lunch during my second. I was exhausted by the end of the day; the good thing was I had Wednesdays off.
 
Yes, they did. There is a clip somewhere. Where M&F are driving out of the gate, with Bella sitting behind. - Presumably Christian was already at school.
Any chance you could post that clip? I cannot find it anywhere :flowers:
 
Thanks Muhler for your explanation on the Danish educational system: most interesting.
30-37 hours a week in school is a lot!! It's sad that it's mandatory. So, both Isabella and Christian will stay in school for so many hours?

I suppose you are right. It's just that I am used to when I went to elementary school and I went for 20 hours a week and still got an excellent education. I think more hours do not necessarily make a better school or a better childhood experience. For a 6 year-old it seems a long day. Basically a regular work week (at least a French 35-hour work load!! :)). I am stressing out about when my oldest one will start first grade next year! :ohmy:

Yes, and no, because they will stay in school but not recieving lessons all that time. It's an combination of regular class and SFO.
The government has passed a law called All-Day-School, where the aim is to ensure that the children are looked after for the whole of a normal workday, while at the same time increase the number of hours where they recieve lessons and also ensure that they get physical activity, can do their homework and play. Theme days can be longer and so on.
This will be implemented next year, although there will be local differencies as schools are administered locally but supervised on a government level.
The purpose is to highten the level of the pupils. - And that is certainly needed!

When Mrs. Muhler and I went to school, we had at the end 55 minutes in class for up to seven individual lessons a day. Now they have 45 minutes in class, usually merged to four 2 X 45 minutes lessons instead. And while a fifth grader today have learned to read and write, mathematics and English faster than we did, their basic skills are lower than in our time.
I've encounted quite a number of young people in my work straight from school, technical school or high school and many can't spell, basic grammar is out the window and they can't do simple calculations in their heads. Their basic knowledge about history and how the society works is at best just that, very basic. (I've had quite a few discussions with teachers about this. :p).
I believe firmly in teaching the basic skills first, then build on top of that. So in many ways I welcome this change. However, I fear this new initiative will make little difference because I suspect there will de facto not be an increase of actual lessons. - It is the mindset among many parents, the teachers and pupils that needs to be changed anyway.

As it is now I'd guess Christian, a second grader, have some 4 hours in class every day, and then go to SFO for perhaps 2-3 hours afterwards. - So he is basically already there. That will now be made mandatory instead of voluntary.
For the older children, who already have 6-7 hours in school a day, it won't be much more. - The problem is that many older pupils work after school or attend a sports club. That time will now be more limited and many are fed up with school.
Another thing our political masters didn't consider is that from next year children will get off right in the beginning of the rush hour. For most it won't be a big problem as they attend a local school within comfortable cycling distance, but quite a number of children don't. So they have to board buses that are already full, cycle among suicidal adult cyclist, hoping that stressed drivers notice them.
And out here in the rural districts it's getting really dark around 15.30 in winter time. I'm pretty envious of the American uniformed schoolbus system which is way superiour to ours.

Any chance you could post that clip? I cannot find it anywhere :flowers:

IIRC it was on the TV2 news at 19.00. - Perhaps others can help finding that clip?

A nice picture of mother and daughter.. yes it was windy weather yesterday :p

http://24.media.tumblr.com/afca30928dcf97dba333149747ccac0a/tumblr_mrhqnc9WfR1sq4lwho1_500.png

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Ekstra Bladet - Amerikanerne roser lille Isabella
Isabella's school bag is from Alpine and is actually one of the market's cheapest school bags. It costs 349 Danish kroner (about 47 euros) and can be bought in Toys'R'Us. Yet it is remarkably a bag of good quality. Several tests has given good score in terms of weight, fit, features and strength of straps and buckles.

My own daughter's school bag is an Alpine too and I will almost guarantee that Bella one day will run into another little schoolgirl with the same school bag as Alpine is very common among school bags for Danish children.

Thanks, Roskilde. :flowers:

This one is pretty funny, come to think of it. :)
That story has been in all the major newspapers yesterday.

We Danes still become very flattered (and surprised too, I think) when someone in the big world notice something positive that is going on in our little village. - Even if it is in just one, albeit wellknown, American magazine. Or when a foreign magazine write something flattering about the style of our princesses.
Oh yes, the village mentallity is very much alive and well, also among those of us who think they don't possess it. :p

And just for the record I find it nice too and I find the village mantallity charming. It would be much worse if we where so aloof we didn't care what the outside world thought of us.
 
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Pretty comparison! Doesn't Princess Isabella look much older that Prince Christian was? I guess it's true that girls are a bit ahead of boys!
IIRC Christian was not yet 6 years old when he started school, as he is born on 15 October. At that age a few months can make quite a difference. But I thought that Christian was actually very self-confident and eloquent for his age.
 
Yes, and no, because they will stay in school but not recieving lessons all that time. It's an combination of regular class and SFO.
The government has passed a law called All-Day-School, where the aim is to ensure that the children are looked after for the whole of a normal workday, while at the same time increase the number of hours where they recieve lessons and also ensure that they get physical activity, can do their homework and play. Theme days can be longer and so on.
This will be implemented next year, although there will be local differencies as schools are administered locally but supervised on a government level.
The purpose is to highten the level of the pupils. - And that is certainly needed!

When Mrs. Muhler and I went to school, we had at the end 55 minutes in class for up to seven individual lessons a day. Now they have 45 minutes in class, usually merged to four 2 X 45 minutes lessons instead. And while a fifth grader today have learned to read and write, mathematics and English faster than we did, their basic skills are lower than in our time.
I've encounted quite a number of young people in my work straight from school, technical school or high school and many can't spell, basic grammar is out the window and they can't do simple calculations in their heads. Their basic knowledge about history and how the society works is at best just that, very basic. (I've had quite a few discussions with teachers about this. :p).
I believe firmly in teaching the basic skills first, then build on top of that. So in many ways I welcome this change. However, I fear this new initiative will make little difference because I suspect there will de facto not be an increase of actual lessons. - It is the mindset among many parents, the teachers and pupils that needs to be changed anyway.

As it is now I'd guess Christian, a second grader, have some 4 hours in class every day, and then go to SFO for perhaps 2-3 hours afterwards. - So he is basically already there. That will now be made mandatory instead of voluntary.
For the older children, who already have 6-7 hours in school a day, it won't be much more. - The problem is that many older pupils work after school or attend a sports club. That time will now be more limited and many are fed up with school.
Another thing our political masters didn't consider is that from next year children will get off right in the beginning of the rush hour. For most it won't be a big problem as they attend a local school within comfortable cycling distance, but quite a number of children don't. So they have to board buses that are already full, cycle among suicidal adult cyclist, hoping that stressed drivers notice them.
And out here in the rural districts it's getting really dark around 15.30 in winter time. I'm pretty envious of the American uniformed schoolbus system which is way superiour to ours.

I've heard rumors that New York City will start on something similar to what's happening in Denmark next year; they want an extended school day to make sure that US is not falling behind other countries, though in my opinion, more instructional time doesn't always mean better achievement. Kids get tired, teachers get tired, and that only leads to frustration, and lack of motivation. I taught from September until this past Tuesday, and even though we didn't have extended day (I'm only a preschool teacher), the amount of time spent in the classroom was extremely taxing for all involved. I think that instead of making the day/year longer, they need to look at the actual system, and perhaps get rid of those pesky standardized tests.

As to people knowing very little in terms of grammar, simple arithmetic, and history, believe me, I've met teachers who lack basic knowledge in these areas. It's very sad, because when you have teachers who lack basic skills, you'll also have a full generation of students who lack them as well. I give myself credit for being what is labeled as a 'nerd', because what I know helps me a great deal in the classroom, and I can pass on some of that random knowledge onto my students (who happened to love looking at pictures of the Cathedral of Notre Dame in Paris, and the Cathedral of St. Basil in Red Square when we did our 'travel the world' unit over the summer).
 
I've heard rumors that New York City will start on something similar to what's happening in Denmark next year; they want an extended school day to make sure that US is not falling behind other countries, though in my opinion, more instructional time doesn't always mean better achievement. Kids get tired, teachers get tired, and that only leads to frustration, and lack of motivation. I taught from September until this past Tuesday, and even though we didn't have extended day (I'm only a preschool teacher), the amount of time spent in the classroom was extremely taxing for all involved. I think that instead of making the day/year longer, they need to look at the actual system, and perhaps get rid of those pesky standardized tests.

As to people knowing very little in terms of grammar, simple arithmetic, and history, believe me, I've met teachers who lack basic knowledge in these areas. It's very sad, because when you have teachers who lack basic skills, you'll also have a full generation of students who lack them as well. I give myself credit for being what is labeled as a 'nerd', because what I know helps me a great deal in the classroom, and I can pass on some of that random knowledge onto my students (who happened to love looking at pictures of the Cathedral of Notre Dame in Paris, and the Cathedral of St. Basil in Red Square when we did our 'travel the world' unit over the summer).

From what I understand, the point of the new school system is that the children won't have to sit in a classroom for four hours straight at Isabella's age. That they'll have longer breaks to play and that there should be more room for different kinds of learning, so all the children will benefit. If they learn by touching and building or by physical activity, then there'll be lessons that plays to their strengths too, instead of just benefiting the children who are good at sitting still and listening in a classroom. We'll have to wait and see if the reform will work as intended.
 
IIRC it was on the TV2 news at 19.00. - Perhaps others can help finding that clip?
Thanks Muhler. No wonder I couldn't find it on here.

It's crazy both Isabella and Christian now both go to school. Guess we have the twins to look forward to next.
 
Danish high school runs from 8 to 5:55?:ohmy:

I take the Higher Preparatory Examination which basically means that where regular High School students finish their education in three years, we only have two years (as Muhler mentioned in a post). Therefore our days are a bit longer than the regular High School students, but a couple of 8-5:55 days a week certainly aren't uncommon in the Danish High School :)
 
Thank you for the photos and videos, everyone! :flowers: Princess Isabella appears to be a lively and happy little girl (and also very cute). I agree with those who said that Isabella looks like she'll be a fun pupil to teach. I imagine that her classmates will have a ball whilst playing with her. :D I know we still have a few years to wait, but I'm looking forward into Prince Vincent and Princess Josephine's first day of school- I'm sure that will be a double dose of cuteness. :) I learnt something new today as I didn't know that schools in Denmark started in early August (schools in my country start in early September).
 
Thank you for the photos and videos, everyone! :flowers: Princess Isabella appears to be a lively and happy little girl (and also very cute). I agree with those who said that Isabella looks like she'll be a fun pupil to teach. I imagine that her classmates will have a ball whilst playing with her. :D I know we still have a few years to wait, but I'm looking forward into Prince Vincent and Princess Josephine's first day of school- I'm sure that will be a double dose of cuteness. :) I learnt something new today as I didn't know that schools in Denmark started in early August (schools in my country start in early September).

Yep, six weeks of summer holiday. One week of winter holiday in February. One week of autumn holiday in October (week 42), three days of holiday around the Easter weekend. Christmas Holidays from 22 December to 2 January depending on weekdays. And a couple of holidays more during spring.
 
Yep, six weeks of summer holiday. One week of winter holiday in February. One week of autumn holiday in October (week 42), three days of holiday around the Easter weekend. Christmas Holidays from 22 December to 2 January depending on weekdays. And a couple of holidays more during spring.

Thank you for the additional information Muhler. :) In the UK, most schools have short holidays which are called "half-term holidays" (for most schools, half-term holidays are a week long; but some schools have two weeks off). I was wondering, do children in Denmark have them too?
 
Muhler, I'm afraid I am also shocked at the low skills I encounter in college students and young adults re: spelling, grammar, history:as you saythe basics.Less time reading might account for a lot of this, imo
Is there an age for school? Here, it is usually 5 years oldfor kindergarten, and 6 for first grade.
Our elementary students usually put in 6 hours a day=30/week. However, 20 years ago and more, kindergarten was only half day, which was much better, imo. Little children do get tired and need down time to learn and behave.
AND, when I was in kindergarten, we were forced to take a nap, something I remember well because I coundnt sleep!
 
Isabella wont have that many hours of school - not in the first couple of years. Christian is getting there, but it still isn't too bad for him. When I was in 0 grade, I was in school from 8:00-11:55 am every day, and I can imagine that Bella's day is quite alike (though I don't know, Tranegårdsskolen might have different time tables than my old old school). That's a rough 18 hours a week which isn't too bad for a six year old. My sister, a fifth grader, has around 28 hours a week, more or less, which isn't too bad either. It isn't until you reach the higher grades that it gets tough (and then when you move on to the Danish High School it's just pure torture, I'm going back on Monday and I don't even want to think about my 8:00 am-5:55 pm days).

Thanks for the breakdown! It's good to know that she won't have that many hours at the beginning. Sorry to hear about your long days coming up....Hang in there. :flowers:

IIRC Christian was not yet 6 years old when he started school, as he is born on 15 October. At that age a few months can make quite a difference. But I thought that Christian was actually very self-confident and eloquent for his age.

That's true: a few months do make a big difference at that age. Prince Christian definitely seemed self-confident (and sweet!) for his first day of school. I'm glad to hear he was also eloquent (not speaking Danish I wouldn't have known!).

more instructional time doesn't always mean better achievement. Kids get tired, teachers get tired, and that only leads to frustration, and lack of motivation.

I've met teachers who lack basic knowledge in these areas. It's very sad, because when you have teachers who lack basic skills, you'll also have a full generation of students who lack them as well.

I think you make two excellent points. More hours with unprepared teachers won't bring any improvements! :whistling: I think there's a tendency everywhere in the western world to encourage/support/push for longer days at school so that school becomes really a de facto day care and both parents can work (there are economic advantages for governments to having more people working more hours...) and not only to improve the academic level. If that were the case, teachers certifications would be much stricter, standardized tests made more flexible, etc. But I'm afraid I'm getting OT. I'm sorry to hear that the Danish system is also not faring too well.
 
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Thank you for the additional information Muhler. :) In the UK, most schools have short holidays which are called "half-term holidays" (for most schools, half-term holidays are a week long; but some schools have two weeks off). I was wondering, do children in Denmark have them too?

School children in DK have those holidays I listed above. A week every couple of months or so.

Muhler, I'm afraid I am also shocked at the low skills I encounter in college students and young adults re: spelling, grammar, history:as you saythe basics.Less time reading might account for a lot of this, imo
Is there an age for school? Here, it is usually 5 years oldfor kindergarten, and 6 for first grade.
Our elementary students usually put in 6 hours a day=30/week. However, 20 years ago and more, kindergarten was only half day, which was much better, imo. Little children do get tired and need down time to learn and behave.
AND, when I was in kindergarten, we were forced to take a nap, something I remember well because I coundnt sleep!

That's a problem among a number of teachers here as well. Of course such teachers also existed in my time (a certain German teacher springs to mind).
In the past 30-35 years there has been a shift from sitting in classes to doing even more group work and theme weeks. It's become too much. In my time we had theme weeks once or twice a year. It's much more now, up to one every month. There are certain advantages with theme weeks where you combine various subjects and allow the children to work on their own, but... Children are children, they work efficiently a third of the time at most, the rest of the time is idle time. The bright pupils are bored stiff and end up doing most of the work anyway, while the weak pupils go on a free ride - and that's not beneficial for them either.
In my time we had extra booklets the brighter pupils could work on, when they had done their normal required work. And it became a sport among the better pupils as to who was in the lead. Towards the end some subjects were divided into basic level and advanced level. I took arithmetic on basic level because math didn't interest me and it's not my strong subject. It meant that those who were good at a particular subject were challenged at the advanced level, while those who were less good, were taught at a pace that better suited them. - No more, because that would be discriminating the weaker pupils, so it's much better to lower the general level, leaving the bright pupils to be bored stiff and lacking challenges.
Another matter is the parents. There are too many parents who disrespect the work the teachers are trying to do, because their little wonder surely isn't disturbing or lazy, he's just high sprited or creative or whatever. Well, their little wonder is in for a rude shock when school is over and real life begins. I certainly shouldn't expect my parents to side with me against my teachers. In fact it happened only once where I had been slapped very hard by a teacher (I partly deserved it, but that's not point). The problem is that teachers nowadays have very few sanctions against the pupils, especially if the parents can't see any faults in their little prodigy. (I've had a few - frank debates - with other parents about that at PTA meetings, which it's why Mrs. Muhler usually do the talking :p).
In my time we risked being sent out the door, sent to the principal's office, get a letter home, having to stay an hour after normal class and sometimes get a slap or being pulled in the hair. The consequences were instant and apart from the physical sanctions, they were useful tools because of course we were unruly sometimes and tried out boundaries. There are very few sanctions now. Basically the teacher can appeal to the pupil - yeah right! Or appeal to the parents, which only works if the parents can accept that their little darling can be unruly.
In my time in 0 grade, we addressed our teacher with Mrs. Berthelsen (the equivalent to sir/maam), stood behind our chairs and sang the going-home-song before we shook hands with our teacher, the boys bowing, the girls curtsying. That was perhaps a little old fashioned, even back then, but it maintained a respectful distance that didn't hurt.
Our son was fortunate with his 0 grade teacher. She had a very good rapport with the children and she hugged each of them at the end of class and that felt good for the children, some of whom really needed a hug. Our daughter's teacher was different: Okay, class is over, dismissed, beat it.
The point is that the inbuild respectful distance to the teacher by for example using their last name is no more and that is a pity, because it was a useful tool.

And the teachers need to realise that they sometimes, just like parents, have to be unpopular. Our primary class teacher was of the old school, we respected her more than we liked her, because she was not afraid of becoming unpopular when it was necessary. However, she was a brillant teacher and we learned something.
Another teacher I fortunately didn't have was a genuine bastard! He taught arithmetic. He had a nack of spotting those who wasn't prepared. They were dragged up to the blackboard and made to solve a problem and he didn't care if it took the rest of the lesson for the unfortunate to solve the problem. And the rest shouldn't feel safe! But his pupils made sure they studied and did their homework for fear of being dragged up to the blackboard. But no one ever liked him.
That's unthinkable now, the helicopter parents would be up in arms and that would also be too athoritarian for the school policy in a state school.

I think you make two excellent points. More hours with unprepared teachers won't bring any improvements! :whistling: I think there's a tendency everywhere in the western world to encourage/support/push for longer days at school so that school becomes really a de facto day care and both parents can work (there are economic advantages for governments to having more people working more hours...) and not only to improve the academic level. If that were the case, teachers certifications would be much stricter, standardized tests made more flexible, etc. But I'm afraid I'm getting OT. I'm sorry to hear that the Danish system is also not faring too well.

You said it. That's what I fear too.

ADDED: Summary of article in Billed Bladet #33, 2013.
Skoleprinsessen - The school-princess.
Written by the omnipresent Ulrik Ulriksen.

Not that there is much news. He tells us that there were press from a number of countries and that the mood was relaxed and good. Bella was initially shy but loosened up.
This was incidentally Isabella's first press conference as the majority of the questions were directed and answered by her.

Q: What do you look forward to the most at school?
Bella: "Doing homework".

Q: What do you have in your school bag?
B: "School-folders, cryons, pencil house and then there is a lunch bag".

Q: Do you know some letters already?
B: "Yes, a little".

Q: What's in the lunch bag"?
B: "There is something nice".

Q: What have your big brother told you about how it is to go to school?
B: "That it's good".

Q: Do you know some of your new classmates in advance?
B: "Yes, a couple of girls, who are sweet". (That's not exactly how she said but the meaning is the same).

Q: Shall Prince Christian help you with your homework?
B: "No"!

Q: Prince Christian could write his own name when he started in 0. grade, can you also write your name?
B: "Yes, I can".

Isabella ended the interview by saying: "Thank you very much".

A little later Bella and her parents drove to school where the new 0. graders were recieved by the principal and older pupils singing in a choir. - I learned that the school has a mentor policy. That means that the 0. graders attach themselves to a pupil from 5th grade, who will look after the little one, give advise and help. So when Bella become a 5th grader herself, she will become a mentor.

Mary said: She is very ready for school. So there hasn't been much preparation. She's really ready and very good at writing". Frederik added that they had a most read a little in an ABC and run through the alphabet.
Isabelle will attend SFO, said Frederik: "She has good opportunities for that and she will now". (Referring to the All-Day-School to be implemented next year).
 
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Another matter is the parents. There are too many parents who disrespect the work the teachers are trying to do, because their little wonder surely isn't disturbing or lazy, he's just high sprited or creative or whatever. Well, their little wonder is in for a rude shock when school is over and real life begins.

An excerpt of your quote above, Muhler, is of course, the real problem. We are absolutely on the same wave length. One sixth grade teacher I know said so many of the parents want their children to have little work, and all A's!
I do remember the discussion a while ago on these boards when I learned that teachers were not addressed Mr./Mrs./Miss, Ms. in Denmark. Thankfully, that is not the case in our public schools here. Only in High school will you find some students becoming "friends" with the teacher and using the first names.
Hugging students is unfortunately not allowed for all kinds of sad reasons.
Shaking hands with the teacher upon leaving the classroom is still practiced in some schools here and some private schools.
Thankfully, corporal punishment hasn't been allowed for some time in most states. It just shows that the adults can behave as poorly as children and have lost control, imo.

A new question. Are all of Isabella's skills in Danish? Is she only learning English in a spoken way when her mother speaks to her? Or is there no English at all in the home.
 
I strongly believe that at least Christian and Isabella speak English (the twins are probably too young to fully master it, but I suppose they're learning it). There doesn't seem to be a language barrier when they spend time with Mary's family. However, I don't think that it is a Mary talking English and Frederik talking Danish to the kids kind of thing, like it is with Marie (in Marie's case, French) and Joachim.
 
Another matter is the parents. There are too many parents who disrespect the work the teachers are trying to do, because their little wonder surely isn't disturbing or lazy, he's just high sprited or creative or whatever. Well, their little wonder is in for a rude shock when school is over and real life begins.

An excerpt of your quote above, Muhler, is of course, the real problem. We are absolutely on the same wave length. One sixth grade teacher I know said so many of the parents want their children to have little work, and all A's!

The bolded text above is so true; so many parents believe that their child can do no wrong, is extremely intelligent, and entitled to everything. Unfortunately, no one ever sides with teachers, because principals want to make sure that they keep the parents happy. It's quite disgusting, but it's OK, because when real life sets in, the 'little wonder' will be wondering why, oh, why is nothing going his/her way.

Many parents don't want any homework assigned to their children, because after school, it should be family time. Same goes for any breaks. While I'm all for 'no homework', since it would lessen my workload at home, I have to say that without at least a little bit of reinforcement, the skills that are learned in the classroom may be lost. The argument is of course; teach them all you need to teach them while they're at school, but if skills are not learned, then there's no time to teach all that has to be covered. I wonder, is there anti-homework movement in Denmark too, or is this strictly a US trend?
 
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