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10-09-2010, 12:30 AM
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I disagree. Whether employed or not, both these ladies, particularly Caroline I'd endeavour to suggest, seem quite close. So much so their families have vacationed together in Switzerland on more than one occasion I believe. Mary and Frederik have also attended various dinner parties hosted by Caroline and her husband.
Because they work for the Crown Princely couple cannot then suggest that their relationship is strictly professional. All ' signs' indicate that their relationship goes beyond a working environment, and quite often at that.
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I disagree. Whether employed or not, both these ladies, particularly Caroline I'd endeavour to suggest, seem quite close. So much so their families have vacationed together in Switzerland on more than one occasion I believe. Mary and Frederik have also attended various dinner parties hosted by Caroline and her husband.
Because they work for the Crown Princely couple cannot then suggest that their relationship is strictly professional. All 'signs' indicate that their relationship goes beyond a working environment, and quite often at that.
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I agree with this statement as well, they seem more like friends than employee IMO.
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Weren't Mary & Caroline friends before Caroline started being her LIW? & if not mistaken, Caroline's husband has known Fred for many years now, correct?
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Weren't Mary & Caroline friends before Caroline started being her LIW? & if not mistaken, Caroline's husband has known Fred for many years now, correct?
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Did they go to school together or something along those lines?
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10-09-2010, 08:20 AM
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I disagree. Whether employed or not, both these ladies, particularly Caroline I'd endeavour to suggest, seem quite close. So much so their families have vacationed together in Switzerland on more than one occasion I believe. Mary and Frederik have also attended various dinner parties hosted by Caroline and her husband.
Because they work for the Crown Princely couple cannot then suggest that their relationship is strictly professional. All 'signs' indicate that their relationship goes beyond a working environment, and quite often at that.
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Yes, and Mary actually chose Caroline as her L-I-W and now personal secretary BECAUSE of their close friendship. And yes, they have been in Switzerland several times together, also Croatia one summer.
Anyway, Mary's close friends involve
Amber Petter
Caroline Heering
Birgitte Handwerk
Julie Mølsgård (they seem to go shopping together very often)
Of course she also has friends like Helle Redtz-Thott, Caroline Fleming, but those don't seem as close and more as friends JUST because they are from danish aristocrathy. Even though she did have a vacation in London with them at one point.
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10-09-2010, 10:17 AM
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Sternchen I think some of these friends came to Mary via her husband, which doesn't mean they aren't real friends, but in a very different category from Amber. Nadine Johnston went to the same uni as Mary but wasn't close to her at uni, she knows her really through her Arctic science work, which involved Frederik. Tanja and Caroline H are ladies in waiting, rather than personal friends. Anja is Mary's paid stylist. I think Kylie Matthews and Helle, and also Caroline Fleming, are the likeliest "true friends" on your list ...
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So what if they are associated through Fred? I have gotten to know some great friends through my htb and they are confidants now, same as he is close friends with some of my old friends now.
I thought the name of this thread is "Princess Mary's Circle of Friends (Danish and Australian)" not "Princess Mary's Circle of Friends from Category XYZ". :P
Tanja and Caroline have been friends of Mary before they became l-i-w. There are plenty of photos especially of Caroline even before the engagement was announced.
I don't know how close Mary is with Helle and Caroline, but I do think they are quiet close, otherwise they wouldn't have asked her to be a godmother to their children, would they?
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10-09-2010, 12:25 PM
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The only female friend of Mary I heard is Amber.
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She has other friends, but they are not public people.
Friends of Australia:
Female Friends
Simone Wolf (childhood's friend and university colleague) and Jane:
http://i39.tinypic.com/2nov9u.jpg (Simone, Mary and Jane at the Royal Wedding in Denmark 2004)
http://i42.tinypic.com/335f9t0.jpg (Simone with Christian, December 2006)
Simone Wolf
Simone grew up in Hobart, Tasmania and is a life long friend of Crown Princess Mary. Simone and Mary attended primary school and high school together and then went on to study law at the University of Tasmania.
Dr. Nadine Johnston (University of Tasmania friend, Isabella's godmother)
http://i43.tinypic.com/309o3tj.jpg (2007)
http://i42.tinypic.com/ekfec8.jpg (with Mary, Isabella and Christian, Denmark 2009)
Now its Princess Isabella | Adelaide Now
Seks faddere til prinsessen - dr.dk/Nyheder/Temaer/Prinsesse
Past Fellowship Recipients
Kylie Matthews (flatmate)
http://i39.tinypic.com/juiwwn.jpg (2003)
http://i34.tinypic.com/35i0xs1.jpg (2003)
Something about Mary - smh.com.au (2003)
The Tasmanian trip marks the second time they have flown out to Australia in recent months, with the couple visiting Sydney last October to attend the wedding of Ms Donaldson's friends Kylie Matthews and
Anthony Jones at St Mark's Church, Darling Point. (2003)
Princess Mary | Crown Prince Frederick | Danish Royals | Kylie Matthews denies rumours of fling with Frederick | Melissa Singer (2009)
Male Friends
Hamish Campbell (university friend and godfather of Christian):
http://i41.tinypic.com/2hxxd04.jpg (2001)
http://i42.tinypic.com/k0634k.jpg (2001)
http://i44.tinypic.com/2ntiv87.jpg (2001)
http://i37.tinypic.com/1zp4a4x.jpg (2010)
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/...180163579.html (Mary, Hamish and Amber - 2005)
Polo royalty | Herald Sun (Hamish 2007)
Video (Mary and Hamish 2010)
Amber and Hamish Video (2003/2004)
Friends Wedding 2004:
_ Mr. MATTHEW ANNELLS (Brent's brother, former boyfriend of Mary)
_ Mr. HAMISH CAMPBELL;
_ Dr. NADINE JOHNSTON;
_ Mrs. KYLIE JONES (Kylie Mathews);
_ Mr. ANDREW MILES (flatmate);
_ Miss AMBER PETTY;
_ Mrs. BRETT WOLF (Simone Wolf).;
_ Mrs. ??? (Jane).
http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/kongehuset/...ticleID=169314 ( http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...04-a-2280.html)
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I am not sure if Amber is really loyal friend, she seems more like an opportunist.
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Amber worked for the media, but not exposed mary.
Mary seems to trust her.
Amber is a public person, and she has no reason to hide.
Friendship:
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=112922
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/...180163579.html
http://www.icmi.com.au/Entertainer/M...etty/Biography
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...a-2212-10.html (Message 192)
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Mary doesn't need to be motivated to be those things. She has already shown that despite the negative media light in which Amber is portrayed (sometimes unfairly), she has not abandoned the true friends that knew her when she was Mary Donaldson. That shows true character on her part! It also demonstrates that Mary genuinely cares about her friends and that she has been just as loyal to them as they have been to her! We all have close friends in our lives - are our motivations to demonstrate to anybody that we are loyal or do we genuinely care about those who are our close friends? Why should it be any different for Mary and Amber because their friendship is so public?
Amber was not any ordinary wedding guest who was invited to the wedding...she was part of the wedding party as maid of honor. Amber was the only non-family member who was in Mary's wedding party. CP Mary also called Amber when she was on her honeymoon. Mary called Amber and other Aussie friends when she was in hospital after she gave birth to Christian. That sounds very much like an inner circle to me.
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Well put, Terri.
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Nadine Johnston went to the same uni as Mary but wasn't close to her at uni, she knows her really through her Arctic science work, which involved Frederik. ...
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That is speculation, I suppose.
Nadine studied at the University of Tasmania. Mary studied at the University of Tasmania.
Nadine was originally presented as a friend of Mary.
Seks faddere til prinsessen - dr.dk/Nyheder/Temaer/Prinsesse (Translation: dr. Nadine Johnston, a close friend of Crown princess Mary)
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10-09-2010, 07:18 PM
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Weren't Mary & Caroline friends before Caroline started being her LIW? & if not mistaken, Caroline's husband has known Fred for many years now, correct?
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Yes, that is right. Caroline's mother in law, Susanne Heering, and the queen have been friends for more than 30 years, sharing a common interest in the ballet. So Peter Heering, Caroline's husband, has always been mentioned as one of Frederik's friends.
Susanne Heering runs her own ballet school at Næstved, and the queen has become the regular scenographer - here Dronning Margrethe i juleballet - Royale - BT.dk the costumes - designed by the queen - for an upcoming christmas ballet are presented
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10-15-2010, 09:44 PM
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whatever happened to "friends" like Andrew Miles and Beatrice Tarnawski, I wonder?...or have they been deemed "inappropriate" ???
(Aussie members please feel free to post on this one ..    ..........
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Care to explain who they are Common?
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10-16-2010, 06:39 AM
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Commonconsort...you should be more careful dear! Your ignorance (lack of knowledge) is showing in all of the posts you have made in this and other threads and it isn't very becoming!  If you would have taken a little more time to research the facts, you would know that Andrew Miles is still one of the friends of CP Mary and CP Frederik. He was invited to their wedding. Andrew Miles was one of Mary's flatmates at her last residence in Sydney. Beatrice Tarnawski was a friend of Mr. Miles, she was never one of Mary's personal friends.
Guestlist from the Crown Prince Wedding http://kongehuset.dk/publish.php?id=3197
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Mrs. Kylie Jones
Mr. Anthony Jones
Mr. Alex Knight
Mr. Oliver Lee
Mr. Simon Levene
Director Christopher Scott Meehan
Mr. Andrew Miles
Mrs. Gina O’Rourke
Mr. Stephen Dametto
Friherre Niclas Palmstierna
Friherreinde Palmstierna
Miss Amber Petty
Direktør Jakob Reese
Fru Reese
Mr. Jason Roberts
Miss Naomi Smith
Miss Kate Sutton
Mr. Tony Thomas
Mrs. Josephine Rechner
Mr. Matthew Tisdall
Mrs. Selina Tracey
Mr. Andrew Tracey
Miss Emma Turnbull
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Nicklas Bendtner is currently helping Arsenal beat Barca, which led me to the question, if the name of his and Carolines son has been revealed, and perhaps also the date and location of the christening?
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You're watching the match too? :) Wiki has no new information, neither does his official website.
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02-16-2011, 04:36 PM
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Yep, I watched Arsenal fight and win (on days like these, I have no control over the remote)  and drolled over Xavi
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In Billed Bladet #13, 2011, we are informed that Count Michael Brockenhuus-Schack of the manor Giesegård has undergone surgery in the intestines for cancer in the bowls.
He does not require further treatment.
The 50 year old Count, belongs to M&F's circle of friends. His wife, Ulla, is a member of the board in the Mary Foundation.
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I think the omission of Amber Petty as a godparent of one of the twins was very telling...I think Amber has always been vocal about her friendship with Mary and this has obviously (now) been to her detriment...All the Australian friends of Mary who have been made godparents of her children Hamish Campbell (Christian), Nadine Johnston (Isabella) and lately Josephine Rechner (Josephine) have all kept quiet and discrete...So Amber was off to a good start with the bridesmaid gig, but I think she is beginning her downward spin into obscurity...If the family circumstances of the list of godparents testify, they all compromise of people in stable, long term relationships and some even include children...And Amber at 40 years old is still unmarried and childless and maybe that is not example of good godparent material...
And totally off topic...but what was Amber thinking wearing that frumpy floral number? All the women (Mary included) seemed to be going for a tailored, fitted, above the knee look that worked well for that kind of event...Outfits like the ones Helle Reedtz-Thott, Caroline Heering, Josephine Rechner, Caroline Fleming, Patricia Bailey, etc were wearing...they all looked sophisticated and polished and Amber stuck out like a sore thumb in her floral, longish, flowy, 'vintage' (who cares) frumpy dress...Harsh I know but didn't someone think to advise her?, couldn't Mary have loaned her a dress too, like she did her sister?...Anyway, I wonder if Mary has outgrown Amber is finding more in common with her friends with children and families, like Josephine Rechner...someone they can talk about poo and spew with
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04-24-2011, 11:50 PM
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Most women I know tend to discuss things with their/our best girlfriends that we would never want anyone else to know. So I would imagine Amber has lots of information about Mary that she would not want to be made official. Chit chats about Mary and Frederik among other topics. I would assume Mary would not want to upset Amber. While there would not be a market for our own confidences there will be lots of interested journalists if Amber would start to talk.
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04-24-2011, 11:54 PM
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I just assumed that she had somehow become misplaced on her way to the local ' bake and buy' at a local parish.
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04-25-2011, 12:32 AM
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Even though Amber wasn't a godparent, she is still an important enough friend to Mary to have been invited to the Christening.
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04-25-2011, 12:39 AM
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Even though Amber wasn't a godparent, she is still an important enough friend to Mary to have been invited to the Christening.
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And for Mary to fly to Australia for, to attend her birthday. We cannot guess or understand the friendship. That is their private relationship.
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