Frederik and Mary's Introduction and Courtship

[ashelen]

Originally Posted by Sternchen

It's quiet a long and wide street with lots of people

Yes, I remember, I was there like 10 years ago, I couldn't remeber exactly the name , but still , I am surprise the people would not recognize them!

[nwinther]

Originally Posted by ashelen

Thank you, well I am surprise they would be not spot in the middle of the shopping street in Copenhagen?

It could be an expression. We sometimes say that "he could walk down Strøget without..." meaning that "he could be out in pulic without...". To underline that no one would notice whatever would otherwise be noteworthy.

Of course - Strøget is right in the middle of Copenhagen, so he might mean it litterally. And if Mary wasn't married to Frederik already, noone would bother her (not sure they would either way) at least - even if she was spotted. Other than nosy gossip "reporters".

[FasterB]

People living in Copenhagen are used to see celebs (actors, journalists, writers, royals aso) walking around, sitting at the diner/café, biking around. So they won´t notice them unless it is pointed out to them :)

[AnnaNotherThing]

Got my book today...Yippee! Frederik Kronprins af Danmark, hardcover with a dustjacket, too...Can't understand a word of it which makes my admiration for Mary increase...How she learnt, understands, thinks and speaks Danish in under 10 years is hugely impressive...

My copy has the words - Med venlig hilsen forlaget - stamped in it...I was wondering if was a library stamp? But it was sold to me under the impression that it was a new copy? What do the words mean?

[JessRulz]

A quick online translation gives me 'Yours faithfully, by the publisher' as a translation for 'Med venlig hilsen forlaget' - so it is a thank you from the publisher of the book for purchasing it.

Where did you buy the book from Anna?

[AnnaNotherThing]

Originally Posted by Muhler

You can find it right here: antikvariat.net - Antiquarian Books in Scandinavia

I found two within five seconds.

Enter: frederik kronprins af danmark in the search field.

They also ship outside of DK.

ADDED: You can also enter: gitte redder in the search field. You can get the Mary book from 2005 at bargain prizes. (Mostly in Danish however).

JessRulz: Got a tip from Muhler post no 58 in this thread...there are more available for sale from that website and it is so easy to order...Can't understand a word of it but the photos are great! It's going to be my crash course in Danish :)

I also just ordered a copy of Kronprinsesse Mary by Anne Wolden-Raethinge...in Danish!

[ashelen]

Originally Posted by AnnaNotherThing

Got my book today...Yippee! Frederik Kronprins af Danmark, hardcover with a dustjacket, too...Can't understand a word of it which makes my admiration for Mary increase...How she learnt, understands, thinks and speaks Danish in under 10 years is hugely impressive...

My copy has the words - Med venlig hilsen forlaget - stamped in it...I was wondering if was a library stamp? But it was sold to me under the impression that it was a new copy? What do the words mean?

med venlig hilsen, with frindly regards

[Harold]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but will Frederik – Kronprins af Danmark but published in English?

[Sternchen]

I don't think so. IIRC it was published for his 40th Birthday, and he will turn 43 in May, I think that makes it unlikely...

[IloveCP]

What an interesting courtship.Too bad Mary does not see Australia

[SLV]

Originally Posted by Muhler

Continued.
In the Yellow Mansion (****) in Amalie Street, a stones throw from Amalienborg, Court Marshall Ove Ullerup and Per Thornit get busy. On Wednesday the 24th September they issue a brief statement to the press: “Hofmarskallatet (*****) informs that Her Majesty the Queen in the State Council scheduled to take place Wednesday the 8th October 2003 at 10.00 o clock in the residence at Amalienborg, intends to approve that His Royal Highness the Crown Prince enter a state of matrimony with consultant, Miss Mary Elizabeth Donaldson”. (******)

At the second the pres release is issued to Danish medias, radio and television is interrupted with the message of the royal engagement. The bridal couple to be is like vanish from the face of the Earth and no one suspects they are enjoying each other at the Adriatic and thus don’t face the media-commotion at home. Because commotion it is. Papers and TV-stations call forth historians and royal experts to assess the significance of the marriage of the Crown Prince for the future of the monarchy. Oh yes, the engagement-ecstasy afflicts everyone. Finally, our Crown Prince has sailed into harbor, cheer the Danes and in the editorial Berlinske Tidende (*******) praise the future Crown Princess as insurance for the Danish people’s monarchy.

So, on the 24th of September the media is informed that on the 8th the Queen will make an announcement about the engagement, and the same day (the 24th) the media is writing about it. So, what is the point in having that announcement on the 8th? Did they still have it? As a way to formally introduce Mary, perhaps?
I can't remember hearing about the engagement between CP Willem-Alexander and princes Maximá until the press-conference itself. Is that the normal way of announcing things in Denmark?

Muhler, I must thank you for these wonderful translations!

[nwinther]

Originally Posted by SLV

So, on the 24th of September the media is informed that on the 8th the Queen will make an announcement about the engagement, and the same day (the 24th) the media is writing about it. So, what is the point in having that announcement on the 8th? Did they still have it? As a way to formally introduce Mary, perhaps?
I can't remember hearing about the engagement between CP Willem-Alexander and princes Maximá until the press-conference itself. Is that the normal way of announcing things in Denmark?

Muhler, I must thank you for these wonderful translations!

I don't know if it's the exact reason, but in Denmark, the monarchy play a big constitutional role. The Parliament has to approve the bride formally, and as such it is not possible - in a legal sense - for the court to keep a lid on it until the last moment.

Also, there's a lot of tradition and formalia that has to be respected.

After all, the monarchy is more than just a reality show.

[Duke of Marmalade]

Originally Posted by SLV

I can't remember hearing about the engagement between CP Willem-Alexander and princes Maximá until the press-conference itself.

Maxima & WA took the risk getting engaged without the formal approval of parliament. The engagement was in March 2001 and the approval only followed in July of the same year.

[Muhler]

In an article in Billed Bladet #25, 2012, about M&F's upcoming visit to Brazil, it is mentioned that he and Mary have visited Brazil together once before.

That was in the autumn of 2002. Frederik had just ended an official visit to Recife, when he borrowed a private plane from the extremely wealthy Camargo Carrea family and flew to Natal (in South Africa) where he picked up Mary and went to Brazil for a secret holiday lasting a week.

[ashelen]

Originally Posted by Muhler

In an article in Billed Bladet #25, 2012, about M&F's upcoming visit to Brazil, it is mentioned that he and Mary have visited Brazil together once before.

That was in the autumn of 2002. Frederik had just ended an official visit to Recife, when he borrowed a private plane from the extremely wealthy Camargo Carrea family and flew to Natal (in South Africa) where he picked up Mary and went to Brazil for a secret holiday lasting a week.

wow, must be nice to have the posibility of that!!!!!!! I guess Mary wasnt surprise by that timealready! I ownder what she was doing in South Africa?

[tdarlene]

Originally Posted by Muhler

In an article in Billed Bladet #25, 2012, about M&F's upcoming visit to Brazil, it is mentioned that he and Mary have visited Brazil together once before.

That was in the autumn of 2002. Frederik had just ended an official visit to Recife, when he borrowed a private plane from the extremely wealthy Camargo Carrea family and flew to Natal (in South Africa) where he picked up Mary and went to Brazil for a secret holiday lasting a week.

Are you sure it was Natal in South Africa and not the Brazilian city of Natal. It seems to me a little to much to fly from Brazil to SA and back.

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by tdarlene

Are you sure it was Natal in South Africa and not the Brazilian city of Natal. It seems to me a little to much to fly from Brazil to SA and back.

You are probably right.

The article only says Natal and the only Natal I had heard about until now is in South Africa.

[stellam]

I think it must be Natal in Brazil as Natal in South Africa is now called by Kwazulu-Natal.

[Morgan43201]

I am sometimes confused as to why a royal would marry outside of nobility?

[Kit]

Because the CP of Denmark fell in love with Mary a commoner and not a girl from another royal or noble family. The same can be said for the CP of Norway, Spain and the Netherlands as well as CP Victoria of Sweden and Prince William. There are several others who married commoners because they loved them.