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06-10-2022, 01:11 PM
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06-10-2022, 01:57 PM
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Mary is taking part in a dinner at the Norwegian National Museum, together with Queen Sonja and Haakon and Mette Marit.
- All four of them looking good!
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Here are two galleries of the dinner this evening:
** gettyimages: NOR: Norwegian National Museum Holds An Official Dinner With Royals ** ppe gallery **
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06-10-2022, 02:57 PM
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I wonder how Mary is coping with spoken Norwegian.
I think Norwegian is way easier to understand for a Dane, than Swedish (even though Swedish IMO is the best sounding language of the Nordic languages). But Mary is coming in as an English speaker who has learned what I believe is the most difficult language to learn how to speak of the Nordic countries, Danish. - Which can be very difficult to understand when spoken, says the Swedes and Norwegians, and here she listening to Norwegian being spoken.
- Hmm, this doesn't make much sense, does it?
Okay, do you out there, when listening to the various Scandinavian languages, find it easier to pick up the odd phrase and words in Norwegian than Swedish and Danish?
Because that might be an indication at how Mary is feeling.
Anyway, I imagine that when the NRF is with Mary here, they speak Nor-Danglish.
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06-22-2022, 11:14 AM
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Crown Princess Mary visited the Boss Ladies project in Copenhagen this afternoon, June 22.
"The Boss Ladies project aims to increase young women's interest in applying for the construction, civil engineering and installation industries, increase the well-being of women in vocational education and in industry companies, and develop new methods for retaining women in the various industries":
** tt.se gallery **
** BB gallery: Se billederne: Kronprinsesse Mary ankommer i skarpt mørkeblåt jakkesæt **
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06-22-2022, 01:20 PM
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 Yes. the purpose is to have more women in traditional male occupations, like smiths, machinists, carpenters and so on.
It's been common to see women in these occupations, but not that many and there are still problems with some women in these occupations.
In some cases because they are unfortunate enough to end up working alongside neanderthals. In other cases, because the women try too hard to like the lads - or what they think lads behave. (That can sometimes be comical BTW) Or because the women have an attitude problem - not necessarily a bad attitude but a wrong attitude (and that applies not only to women!).
Anyway, all this is less about egalitarianism and the advantages of mixed gender workplaces, than about Danish businesses screaming for qualified workers.
The businesses have long since realized that women can weld just as well as a man, there are a few considerations needed, like the average women having less physical strength but nothing serious. So female apprentices are usually welcome but most women still choose traditional female occupations. And now the situation about having qualified workers is getting desperate and it will be even worse in the future.
And this is another recruitment drive.
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06-22-2022, 02:39 PM
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I agree..a very important program! And the perfect fit for Mary given her advocacy of gender equality including in the workplace and access for women to different fields of work. It looks like all the young ladies were super excited Mary was there! And I love the gift of the drill! Very fitting..lol.
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06-22-2022, 04:25 PM
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And the drill might actually come in handy.
Not that I think M&F lack tools, there being a workshop in the Amalienborg complex as well as professional craftsmen to do things for them. But I should be very surprised if M&F from time to time don't hang up the odd shelf or painting themselves or give something a coat of paint.
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06-22-2022, 08:51 PM
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 Yes. the purpose is to have more women in traditional male occupations, like smiths, machinists, carpenters and so on.
It's been common to see women in these occupations, but not that many and there are still problems with some women in these occupations.
In some cases because they are unfortunate enough to end up working alongside neanderthals. In other cases, because the women try too hard to like the lads - or what they think lads behave. (That can sometimes be comical BTW) Or because the women have an attitude problem - not necessarily a bad attitude but a wrong attitude (and that applies not only to women!).
Anyway, all this is less about egalitarianism and the advantages of mixed gender workplaces, than about Danish businesses screaming for qualified workers.
The businesses have long since realized that women can weld just as well as a man, there are a few considerations needed, like the average women having less physical strength but nothing serious. So female apprentices are usually welcome but most women still choose traditional female occupations. And now the situation about having qualified workers is getting desperate and it will be even worse in the future.
And this is another recruitment drive.
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I don't want to get too far off topic, but I do want to say that my country (the U.S.) is also having a skilled worker shortage. I think this is currently happening in a number of countries. I'm sure this is a topic of conversation in government circles not only in Denmark, but in many other places, so I would expect to see M&F involved in more of these, not just to promote female employment in traditionally male roles, but to promote young people choosing skilled trades over university-trained career paths. As expensive as universities have become (at least over here) and as oversaturated as many university-trained career positions have become, this would make a world of sense.
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06-23-2022, 03:11 PM
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We are experiencing the exact same problems here.
While I will never say that an education is wasted or not useful, there are a number of especially academic educations that has a very narrow practical application, while there at the same time a number of more practical jobs are already in very serious need of applicants - be that academic, technical, crafts, care and so on.
And I think this is a subject M&F will focus more on as their own children and the children within their circle of friends grow older. I.e. how to attract young people to learn these trades. - It's a logic effect of M&F's journey through life. At some point they will focus on senior citizens as well.
Anyway. There is unfortunately a good deal of snobbery in regards to more practical professions. That a "dirty" job as a craftsman or technician isn't as high status as say an academic education. When in reality these jobs are usually well paid and with almost life-long job guarantee.
There is unfortunately also a good deal of intellectual snobbery. I.e. such practical jobs doesn't require that much brainpower, when in reality you have to look far and wide to find say a machinist who hasn't got quite a bit between the ears - they have to.
And don't get me started on the care-sector let alone the service industry!
Carers at nursing homes or kindergarten teachers are in regards to status pretty much only one step about shoveling dung in a pigsty. And considered poorly paid as well - which is unfortunately true.
One exception, oddly enough, seems to be renovation/sanitation workers which is pretty respected (well paid too!). Perhaps because they drive big trucks and have somehow managed to get a positive PR - and you can soon tell if they aren't there doing their jobs...
So for a number of years there has been a recruitment drive to get young people interested in a career in a more practical business. So far only with limited success.
As the extremely influential Danish Industry is screaming for skilled workers and the society as a whole need skilled workers, in order to facilitate our export and thereby pay for our welfare system, I should be more than surprised if M&F will not get involved more in this topic.
What Danish Industry wish for, is a command for the government and the Parliament... . and indirectly the DRF. That's simply how it works here.
So while I don't believe any of M&F's children will become a carpenter or a nurse (high status, but lousy working conditions BTW) it's not out of the question to imagine one of them attending a technical high school, (also three years) rather than the ordinary high school that is meant as a preparation for an academic career. (Even though some 60 % of all Danish young attend high school, the majority don't pursue an academic career afterwards.)
Anyway the extremely influential Danish Employer's Association, Danish Industry and most of the unions will applaud enthusiastically should one of M&F's children opt for a more practical profession.
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06-23-2022, 09:07 PM
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So while I don't believe any of M&F's children will become a carpenter or a nurse (high status, but lousy working conditions BTW) it's not out of the question to imagine one of them attending a technical high school, (also three years) rather than the ordinary high school that is meant as a preparation for an academic career. (Even though some 60 % of all Danish young attend high school, the majority don't pursue an academic career afterwards.)
Anyway the extremely influential Danish Employer's Association, Danish Industry and most of the unions will applaud enthusiastically should one of M&F's children opt for a more practical profession.
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While I don't know very much about Vincent, for some reason I get an engineering vibe from him. I could see him being a mechanical or electrical engineer. That's high status, but also still very technical. Of course, for all I know he might be a total history nerd and end up teaching history at Aarhus university or something. Regardless, all the best to him, no matter what career he chooses.
As for nursing, we're having extreme shortages here too, along with medical techs. The working conditions for both are lousy, the stress is high, and (at least for the medical techs) the pay is low. I think the nurses over here make a bit more, but still not worth it. One hospital near me recently had to limit the intake of patients (other than emergency cases) for lack of enough nurses to take care of them.
Anyway, thanks for the information.
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Posts that did discuss fashion only, have been moved to the correct thread.
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09-06-2022, 11:23 AM
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IIRC that university is usually our Marie's domain. - But as she is in France, I think it's to be expected that Mary takes over for a few years.
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09-06-2022, 11:48 AM
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 No, Marie is patron of the University of Southern Denmark (Syddansk Universitet). UC SYD is a university college (en professionshøjskole). Two different schools with different types of education but covering the same geographical area.
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