Crown Princess Mary, Current Events Part 15: September 2021 - January 2024


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Mary does so well on these trips. representing Denmark highly.

https://www.kongehuset.dk/foto-vide...edygtige-og-klimasikre-byer”-paa-oslo-raadhus
https://www.uniforum.uio.no/nyheter/2022/06/kronprinsesse-mary-vil-jobba-for-mindre-skilnader-.html

They get along so well.
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Mary excels at this. She is always beyond well prepared, has done her research and is knowledgeable on the topic she is speaking on. An amazing representative of and for Denmark. And looking amazing and regal while doing it..lol. I will say that one thing is that she commands attention without being attention-seeking (if that makes sense). It is her self-confidence, self-assurance and poise.

Here are articles and videos/photos

Video of Mary, Queen Sonja and CP Haakon and CP MM looking at the dresses displayed

https://www.billedbladet.dk/video/7HIWI8Mj/naW4GhDx


Here are the rest of the videos BB has posted so far:

https://www.billedbladet.dk/video/7HIWI8Mj/3lGbWoEb

https://www.billedbladet.dk/video/7HIWI8Mj/xHspMTb2

https://www.billedbladet.dk/video/7HIWI8Mj/Nrf9QaeV

https://www.billedbladet.dk/video/7HIWI8Mj/BcRs702W

https://www.billedbladet.dk/video/7HIWI8Mj/BkhxyB7W

And the articles (video/photos)

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...se-mary-ser-paa-de-smukkeste-kjoler-med-sonja

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...onning-sonja-er-ren-magi-paa-den-roede-loeber

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...n-elegant-mary-i-udsoegt-kjole-til-festmiddag

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...em-kronprinsesse-mary-moedtes-med-helt-privat

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...sse-mary-fortaeller-om-moedet-med-mette-marit

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...ry-besoeger-kronprins-haakon-og-kronprinsesse

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...l-fest-mary-er-i-sit-es-paa-stor-aften-i-oslo

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...rinsesse-mary-lukker-forrygende-fest-med-stil
 
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I wonder how Mary is coping with spoken Norwegian.

I think Norwegian is way easier to understand for a Dane, than Swedish (even though Swedish IMO is the best sounding language of the Nordic languages). But Mary is coming in as an English speaker who has learned what I believe is the most difficult language to learn how to speak of the Nordic countries, Danish. - Which can be very difficult to understand when spoken, says the Swedes and Norwegians, and here she listening to Norwegian being spoken.

- Hmm, this doesn't make much sense, does it? :ohmy:

Okay, do you out there, when listening to the various Scandinavian languages, find it easier to pick up the odd phrase and words in Norwegian than Swedish and Danish?
Because that might be an indication at how Mary is feeling.

Anyway, I imagine that when the NRF is with Mary here, they speak Nor-Danglish.
 
Crown Princess Mary visited the Boss Ladies project in Copenhagen this afternoon, June 22.

"The Boss Ladies project aims to increase young women's interest in applying for the construction, civil engineering and installation industries, increase the well-being of women in vocational education and in industry companies, and develop new methods for retaining women in the various industries":


** tt.se gallery **


** BB gallery: Se billederne: Kronprinsesse Mary ankommer i skarpt mørkeblåt jakkesæt **
 
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:previous: Yes. the purpose is to have more women in traditional male occupations, like smiths, machinists, carpenters and so on.
It's been common to see women in these occupations, but not that many and there are still problems with some women in these occupations.
In some cases because they are unfortunate enough to end up working alongside neanderthals. In other cases, because the women try too hard to like the lads - or what they think lads behave. (That can sometimes be comical BTW) Or because the women have an attitude problem - not necessarily a bad attitude but a wrong attitude (and that applies not only to women!).

Anyway, all this is less about egalitarianism and the advantages of mixed gender workplaces, than about Danish businesses screaming for qualified workers.
The businesses have long since realized that women can weld just as well as a man, there are a few considerations needed, like the average women having less physical strength but nothing serious. So female apprentices are usually welcome but most women still choose traditional female occupations. And now the situation about having qualified workers is getting desperate and it will be even worse in the future.

And this is another recruitment drive.
 
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Very worthy program.

"29 ambassadors met with the Crown Princess to talk about being a minority in its industry. They were all so brave, cool and supportive as they each entered into a dialogue with the Crown Princess about their own experiences.

It has been an absolutely fantastic day and we are very honored that the Crown Princess visited us and the commitment that the Crown Princess showed us. We can live on that for a long time"
https://www.instagram.com/p/CfHc7iEMizA/
https://www.facebook.com/BossLadiesDanmark/posts/pfbid0oPFRd3QHmwKmtVq88oD2dZ3ZK5zemvvi1aXNCEDZDHgYNQeRWbyjVQPMF1vFr5ybl

Looks like Mary was gifted a drill. great!
https://beta.tt.se/bildobjekt/image/sdl9r3f1LRHoPc?preview

articles and videos from BilledBladet*from Mary's visit to Boss Ladies.

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...ende-foer-kronprinsesse-mary-kaster-haandtegn

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...mary-vakte-jubel-hos-seje-haandvaerkerkvinder
 
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polyesco said:
Very worthy program.

"29 ambassadors met with the Crown Princess to talk about being a minority in its industry. They were all so brave, cool and supportive as they each entered into a dialogue with the Crown Princess about their own experiences.

It has been an absolutely fantastic day and we are very honored that the Crown Princess visited us and the commitment that the Crown Princess showed us. We can live on that for a long time"
https://www.instagram.com/p/CfHc7iEMizA/
https://www.facebook.com/BossLadiesDanmark/posts/pfbid0oPFRd3QHmwKmtVq88oD2dZ3ZK5zemvvi1aXNCEDZDHgYNQeRWbyjVQPMF1vFr5ybl

Looks like Mary was gifted a drill. great!
https://beta.tt.se/bildobjekt/image/sdl9r3f1LRHoPc?preview
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I agree..a very important program! And the perfect fit for Mary given her advocacy of gender equality including in the workplace and access for women to different fields of work. It looks like all the young ladies were super excited Mary was there! And I love the gift of the drill! Very fitting..lol.
 
And the drill might actually come in handy.

Not that I think M&F lack tools, there being a workshop in the Amalienborg complex as well as professional craftsmen to do things for them. But I should be very surprised if M&F from time to time don't hang up the odd shelf or painting themselves or give something a coat of paint.
 
Muhler said:
:previous: Yes. the purpose is to have more women in traditional male occupations, like smiths, machinists, carpenters and so on.
It's been common to see women in these occupations, but not that many and there are still problems with some women in these occupations.
In some cases because they are unfortunate enough to end up working alongside neanderthals. In other cases, because the women try too hard to like the lads - or what they think lads behave. (That can sometimes be comical BTW) Or because the women have an attitude problem - not necessarily a bad attitude but a wrong attitude (and that applies not only to women!).

Anyway, all this is less about egalitarianism and the advantages of mixed gender workplaces, than about Danish businesses screaming for qualified workers.
The businesses have long since realized that women can weld just as well as a man, there are a few considerations needed, like the average women having less physical strength but nothing serious. So female apprentices are usually welcome but most women still choose traditional female occupations. And now the situation about having qualified workers is getting desperate and it will be even worse in the future.

And this is another recruitment drive.
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I don't want to get too far off topic, but I do want to say that my country (the U.S.) is also having a skilled worker shortage. I think this is currently happening in a number of countries. I'm sure this is a topic of conversation in government circles not only in Denmark, but in many other places, so I would expect to see M&F involved in more of these, not just to promote female employment in traditionally male roles, but to promote young people choosing skilled trades over university-trained career paths. As expensive as universities have become (at least over here) and as oversaturated as many university-trained career positions have become, this would make a world of sense.
 
We are experiencing the exact same problems here.

While I will never say that an education is wasted or not useful, there are a number of especially academic educations that has a very narrow practical application, while there at the same time a number of more practical jobs are already in very serious need of applicants - be that academic, technical, crafts, care and so on.

And I think this is a subject M&F will focus more on as their own children and the children within their circle of friends grow older. I.e. how to attract young people to learn these trades. - It's a logic effect of M&F's journey through life. At some point they will focus on senior citizens as well.
Anyway. There is unfortunately a good deal of snobbery in regards to more practical professions. That a "dirty" job as a craftsman or technician isn't as high status as say an academic education. When in reality these jobs are usually well paid and with almost life-long job guarantee.
There is unfortunately also a good deal of intellectual snobbery. I.e. such practical jobs doesn't require that much brainpower, when in reality you have to look far and wide to find say a machinist who hasn't got quite a bit between the ears - they have to.
And don't get me started on the care-sector let alone the service industry!
Carers at nursing homes or kindergarten teachers are in regards to status pretty much only one step about shoveling dung in a pigsty. And considered poorly paid as well - which is unfortunately true.
One exception, oddly enough, seems to be renovation/sanitation workers which is pretty respected (well paid too!). Perhaps because they drive big trucks and have somehow managed to get a positive PR - and you can soon tell if they aren't there doing their jobs...

So for a number of years there has been a recruitment drive to get young people interested in a career in a more practical business. So far only with limited success.
As the extremely influential Danish Industry is screaming for skilled workers and the society as a whole need skilled workers, in order to facilitate our export and thereby pay for our welfare system, I should be more than surprised if M&F will not get involved more in this topic.
What Danish Industry wish for, is a command for the government and the Parliament... . and indirectly the DRF. That's simply how it works here.

So while I don't believe any of M&F's children will become a carpenter or a nurse (high status, but lousy working conditions BTW) it's not out of the question to imagine one of them attending a technical high school, (also three years) rather than the ordinary high school that is meant as a preparation for an academic career. (Even though some 60 % of all Danish young attend high school, the majority don't pursue an academic career afterwards.)
Anyway the extremely influential Danish Employer's Association, Danish Industry and most of the unions will applaud enthusiastically should one of M&F's children opt for a more practical profession.
 
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Muhler said:
So while I don't believe any of M&F's children will become a carpenter or a nurse (high status, but lousy working conditions BTW) it's not out of the question to imagine one of them attending a technical high school, (also three years) rather than the ordinary high school that is meant as a preparation for an academic career. (Even though some 60 % of all Danish young attend high school, the majority don't pursue an academic career afterwards.)
Anyway the extremely influential Danish Employer's Association, Danish Industry and most of the unions will applaud enthusiastically should one of M&F's children opt for a more practical profession.
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While I don't know very much about Vincent, for some reason I get an engineering vibe from him. I could see him being a mechanical or electrical engineer. That's high status, but also still very technical. Of course, for all I know he might be a total history nerd and end up teaching history at Aarhus university or something. Regardless, all the best to him, no matter what career he chooses.

As for nursing, we're having extreme shortages here too, along with medical techs. The working conditions for both are lousy, the stress is high, and (at least for the medical techs) the pay is low. I think the nurses over here make a bit more, but still not worth it. One hospital near me recently had to limit the intake of patients (other than emergency cases) for lack of enough nurses to take care of them.

Anyway, thanks for the information.
 
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Posts that did discuss fashion only, have been moved to the correct thread.
 
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IIRC that university is usually our Marie's domain. - But as she is in France, I think it's to be expected that Mary takes over for a few years.
 
:previous: No, Marie is patron of the University of Southern Denmark (Syddansk Universitet). UC SYD is a university college (en professionshøjskole). Two different schools with different types of education but covering the same geographical area.
 
Archduchess Zelia said:
:previous: No, Marie is patron of the University of Southern Denmark (Syddansk Universitet). UC SYD is a university college (en professionshøjskole). Two different schools with different types of education but covering the same geographical area.
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I see. :flowers:
 
Muhler said:
I see. :flowers:
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DI - Danish Industry is the main organization of predominantly Danish production businesses - with main focus on export.

It is probably the most, or second most, influential organization in DK, regardless of political orientation. They don't care what government is in power, as long as their interests are met as much as possible.
So basically when DI talks, every government listens. - Carefully!
Being so focused on export, revenue (from taxes) and jobs the DRF works very closely with this organization.
As such Mary is very familiar with not only how this organization works, who it represents but also those who head the organization.

DI does not buy political influence as such, just like the unions it has political influence in view of those they represent.
 
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Muhler said:
DI - Danish Industry is the main organization of predominantly Danish production businesses - with main focus on export.

It is probably the most, or second most, influential organization in DK, regardless of political orientation. They don't care what government is in power, as long as their interests are met as much as possible.
So basically when DI talks, every government listens. - Carefully!
Being so focused on export, revenue (from taxes) and jobs the DRF works very closely with this organization.
As such Mary is very familiar with not only how this organization works, who it represents but also those who head the organization.

DI does not buy political influence as such, just like the unions it has political influence in view of those they represent.
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Thank you Muhler for the explanation. It is really too bad that the DRF does not get the international recognition it deserves and that goes for quite a few of the European RFs. THESE RFs are the definition of "working" royals.
 
Izzie said:
Thank you Muhler for the explanation. It is really too bad that the DRF does not get the international recognition it deserves and that goes for quite a few of the European RFs. THESE RFs are the definition of "working" royals.
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Yes, a large part of current royal families is to help Danish export - and thereby creating jobs and tax revenues as a result of the export. Apart from advocating various social issues as well as helping their country in gaining more political influence in international organizations and fora.
It's IMO 50/50 representation/direct working for Danish political interests.

It has shifted from the DRF representing itself and gracing an event or a protection by their mere presence, as it predominantly still was during the reign of Frederik IX. With the odd state visit abroad showing the flag. - To having a direct and increasing national-political role during the reign of QMII - to today the DRF-members also trying to have a direct influence and directly addressing issues often with a considerable political context and message on an international stage. (Of course okayed by the politicians.)

It would have been a no-go for say Benedikte to verbally advocate the rights of women internationally or to address welfare issues. - While such topics are now not only normal for Mary and our Marie, but actually expected of them.

We see a similar pattern in most European monarchies.
 
Thanks Muhler! Yes...as with the DRF...the same goes for the Dutch RF, Belgian RF, Norway, Sweden and Spain. They are much more involved in advocating for social/relevant/important issues and NOT just showing up at a organization, smiling, waving, cutting a ribbon and then that's it. That their mere presence is enough. Also, these RFs that I mentioned are also involved in humanitarian trips to hard hit countries, highlighting the issues and bringing with them individuals/organizations that are making differences or can make a difference there. Mary has done this to a huge extent, especially via her Foundation. They are also part of high-level task forces, UN committees, etc. THIS is what modern royals have to do these days. They have to be able to speak on the issues they champion, be well-versed and knowledgeable in them and be able to give articulate speeches about them. It is much more than just smiling and waving.

Here is a video of Mary presenting the DI Award at the DI Summit today. She gave a short speech beforehand. - https://tv.di.dk/secret/78901135/9b12f5206cf32c5b798672bfd6a0cdfb
 
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Yes, their roles have clearly changed - in my lifetime in fact.

The nodding and waving royals that are seen but not heard are so yesteryear in today's world.
It's IMO a question of both staying relevant but also utilizing the royals to the max. From a cost-benefit analysis as well as a PR-view it's a sound move, I believe.

It must also be so much more rewarding for the royals, that they are allowed to use their education (most now have a university degree or at least a well-rounded education - some even with personal work-experience on what was often a pretty high level, for the age they were when they got engaged) and their drive, interests and position to as must extent as possible.
It must sometimes have been so frustrating to have a drive, a conscious or a message about some social issue and never being allowed to address it.

- To quote a former Danish PM, Jens Otto Kragh, who when talking about the teenage Princess Margrethe to political colleagues, said: "I understand she's intelligent. A pity."

In other words: He felt her intelligence was wasted becoming the next monarch. - And to some extent he was at least partially right at his time. (It must have been during the early 60s.)
Of course he was also arch-Social-Democrat, who at least in principle was a republican. (That has changed since then. The Social Democrats today have no intention of even suggesting abolishing the monarchy. In fact many of them have no problems at all receiving orders, something Social Democrats only twenty years ago, would have thanked no to. Out of principle.)
 
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I totally agree with you. Most of the current monarchs, heirs and next consorts. I am speaking about Spain, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium and Netherlands. In looking at current and next Queen consorts specifically they all bring education and real world experience to the table that has just enhanced their ability to execute their duties. Also though, you have to want to put all that education and experience to use. If you do not have the desire, drive to put anything you bring to the table into action, then it is useless. You also have to want to improve as well. You must want to evolve any area in which you may be lacking or have trouble with. Again, modern royals now have to have a strong work-ethic, social conscious, be able to relate to all sorts of people, be well versed in current/relevant topics, be articulate, be prepared, and WANT to put all your skill set to actual work, if any. Showing up for smiles, waves and photo ops is certainly not going to cut it anymore.
 
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