Crown Princess Mary as Patron of The Danish Refugee Council (DRC): 2005 - 2022


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BB can tell that Mary landed in Denmark early this morning (around 6am). After her last event she flew from Rakhine to Myanmar's capital Yangon and from there to Bangkok in Thailand.

From Thailand Airport she flew directly to the airport in Copenhagen.

But before all that Mary was interviewed by the Danish media, including Billedbladet which has put a bit of it online:

""We can be very proud of the many Danes who are posted in Myanmar working in the Danish Refugee Council. It's a committed, dedicated and passionate work that is performed by the Danish NGOs in the relief agencies. They do it really really well, both in terms of major projects and projects down to the smallest kind such as supporting a mother who is the sole provider for her family. Today, we met a woman who is 23 years old and had to take care of nine children alone. With the Danish help she has now a slightly better chance of being able to do it. This is the difference the Danish relief workers help execute."


Kronprinsesse Mary roser danskerne i Myanmar | Billed Bladet
 
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I thought it was about helping people in Myanmar, and not PR marketing for the Danish royals. Did they obtain permission to use the photo of these people on their website? I think not, in which case it should come down.

The picture sends the message "look how kind Mary is with these people".

But that's not what it was about. Or is it? :ermm:
 
redtulip said:
I thought it was about helping people in Myanmar, and not PR marketing for the Danish royals. Did they obtain permission to use the photo of these people on their website? I think not, in which case it should come down.

The picture sends the message "look how kind Mary is with these people".

But that's not what it was about. Or is it? :ermm:
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What makes you think this was about promoting the DRF, Mary in particular?

I can assure you that the background info in the Danish press, some of which has also been mentioned here, by myself and others, is very much about the political and economical situation in Myanmar. With special emphasis on the refugee situation and the problems there are in regards to refugees. The Danish Minster for Developement's statements have also been quoted here and also the economical assistance from Denmark to Myanmar.
This is very much about creating awareness about the situation in Myanmar, culminating in a national fundraising event later on

Apart from that BB is out Thursday with a comprehensive report from the trip, which I as usual intend to summarize and we can also expect an interview with Mary, which will also be summarized here.

Mary's main function here is to create awareness. With all due respect for the new Minister for Developement, this wouldn't even get a tenth of the press here in DK had Mary not been there and it would certainly not have been mentioned here - in which case you yourself would probably know very little about the situation in Myanmar. Am I correct?

As for getting the permission of the people featured in the clips. Surely you are jesting? That's the whole purpose of the trip. I cannot recall royals anywhere on a similar (or for that matter any other official engagement) needing the permission to publish pictures of those they intend to help. The reporting of the plight of these people is I believe the main job of the media, that includes showing the refugees. Otherwise the news segments on TV would be very short and pretty boring.
Naturally Mary will be featured in many of these photos and clips.
 
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Muhler, this link says it all.

#18 Awareness | Stuff White People Like

I know you won't be persuaded to change your thinking, because you believe in what you think.

I know I won't be persuaded to change my thinking, unless I find there's a good reason for it, because I believe in what I think.

We differ in our thinking.
 
redtulip said:
Muhler, this link says it all.

#18 Awareness | Stuff White People Like

I know you won't be persuaded to change your thinking, because you believe in what you think.

I know I won't be persuaded to change my thinking, unless I find there's a good reason for it, because I believe in what I think.

We differ in our thinking.
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Its not just creating awareness but also highlighting the work the DRC has done and continues to do.
There is a big collection next month in DK, that will go to help/fund these projects. A big part (at least for me) in donating money is seeing results. I know I am more include to donate when I see the work that actually comes as a result.

But I know you wont change your mind even when presented evidence. You also like to say that Mary's danish is "very bad" when the evidence is quite the opposite :whistling::flowers:
 
Hola article and gallery
Mary de Dinamarca: alma, corazón y vida por los más necesitados

Gallery from kongehuset.dk
Besøg i Myanmar - Kongehuset


polyesco said:
Princess Mary of Denmark promotes sexual health in Myanmar | Mail Online
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Thanks for the link, Polyesco.

I don't know much about the Daily Mail newspaper besides that it's English and one of the country's largest newspapers. My uncle (has lived half his life in England) read it every day. Great seeing Mary's work also in a major English newspaper.
 
redtulip said:
Muhler, this link says it all.

#18 Awareness | Stuff White People Like

I know you won't be persuaded to change your thinking, because you believe in what you think.

I know I won't be persuaded to change my thinking, unless I find there's a good reason for it, because I believe in what I think.

We differ in our thinking.
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An interesting argument.

So royals shouldn't go to areas with refugees? And the press following them shouldn't make the public aware of what is going on?

I must confess that my knowledge about the refugee situation in Myanmar before this visit by Mary was quite limited. As such, without that knowledge I would feel the money spend by the Danish government in Myanmar and the loan to Myanmar which has been absolved was a waste of taxpayer money, which would be better if put to use somewhere else. - Somewhere else I was aware of...
That would mean no money to refugees in Myanmar. And no financial aide to the struggeling new democracy in Myanmar either.

That would be the consequences of the logic you apply and the article you refer to.

I realise the futillity of persuading you to change your mind and I will not attempt to do so. Instead I will ask you one question: If awareness is out, what do you propose should otherwise be done to help refugees in Myanmar - or for that matter anywhere else, that is not on the news?

It's an interesting link BTW. I can't figure out whether it's satirical or genuinely racist. (I assume that whites, I'm pigment-challenged myself, can also be victims of racism)?
 
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Muhler said:
An interesting argument.

So royals shouldn't go to areas with refugees? And the press following them shouldn't make the public aware of what is going on?

I must confess that my knowledge about the refugee situation in Myanmar before this visit by Mary was quite limited. As such, without that knowledge I would feel the money spend by the Danish government in Myanmar and the loan to Myanmar which has been absolved was a waste of taxpayer money, which would be better if put to use somewhere else. - Somewhere else I was aware of...
That would mean no money to refugees in Myanmar. And no financial aide to the struggeling new democracy in Myanmar either.

That would be the consequences of the logic you apply and the article you refer to.

I realise the futillity of persuading you to change your mind and I will not attempt to do so. Instead I will ask you one question: If awareness is out, what do you propose should otherwise be done to help refugees in Myanmar - or for that matter anywhere else, that is not on the news?

It's an interesting link BTW. I can't figure out whether it's satirical or genuinely racist. (I assume that whites, I'm pigment-challenged myself, can also be victims of racism)?
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Bingo:flowers::flowers:
Very nicely put.
 
Polyesco, I find snide personal remarks about a stranger on a message board mean and counter productive. They may make you feel better, but as such you don't know me and I don't know you.

You may consider what you experience as evidence of something, and I often do the same. But actually what one perceives as evidence can be questioned on the whole...

How to read the link? Everyone is free the read what they want or think they see.- Yes, there's a lot of racism rampant everywhere. It's self-evident that anyone can be a victim. :)
 
redtulip :)

Would you mind answering my question: What is the alternative to creating awareness if you wish to help people in a faraway place that is not currently on the news?

Criticism is indeed not racism, unless it is based on the assumption that a particular skin colour, in this case white, means that you are less sincere.
 
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Muhler said:
An interesting argument.

So royals shouldn't go to areas with refugees? And the press following them shouldn't make the public aware of what is going on?

I must confess that my knowledge about the refugee situation in Myanmar before this visit by Mary was quite limited. As such, without that knowledge I would feel the money spend by the Danish government in Myanmar and the loan to Myanmar which has been absolved was a waste of taxpayer money, which would be better if put to use somewhere else. - Somewhere else I was aware of...
That would mean no money to refugees in Myanmar. And no financial aide to the struggeling new democracy in Myanmar either.

That would be the consequences of the logic you apply and the article you refer to.

I realise the futillity of persuading you to change your mind and I will not attempt to do so. Instead I will ask you one question: If awareness is out, what do you propose should otherwise be done to help refugees in Myanmar - or for that matter anywhere else, that is not on the news?

It's an interesting link BTW. I can't figure out whether it's satirical or genuinely racist. (I assume that whites, I'm pigment-challenged myself, can also be victims of racism)?
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How entertaining that Redtulip takes a satirical blog like 'stuff white people like' (SWPL) seriously because it (SWPL) is meant to chronicle a phenomenon that I believe is also known in Denmark as 'beefsteak socialism' or NIMBYism in North America. I know 'beefsteak socialism' in The Netherlands through years of watching members of the PvdA (Dutch labour party) speak for the less fortunate as they quaff glasses of expensive French wine at luxurious restaurants in Amsterdam-Buitenveldert!:flowers: No doubt there is a similar expression for Danish socialists who press 'like' on their Iphones when they are sent a facebook link to the latest outrage in Zuckerbergia:lol: In any case, the difference between a truly committed person like the Crown Princess Mary who actually packs her suitcase(or orders it packed, who knows!:lol:) and goes to these places and someone like Redtulip (who knows) is one that I invite and challenge Redtulip to answer with examples of what you, Redtulip, have done to increase awareness of STD (sexually transmitted disease, in case you didn't know:cool:) in Myanmar!:cheers:
 
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:previous: :lol:

Yes, Gerry. We also have a name for such people: kystbanesocialister = posh neighborhood-socialists.

They, and not least their parents (good grief!) are pretty difficult to take serious.
 
:sad:RedTulip:

In reading your comments about Mary and the trip, it is my impression that you don't like her and that news of this kind about people's suffering is something that you don't want brought to the public............I happen to like Mary, and what she is doing in raising awareness of this horrible situation is very enlightening to me and others. It's okay not to like someone yet please try to give them the benefit of the doubt when they are there working for the good of the poor people. Not all of the human race is lucky enough to have roof over it's head or clean fresh water or even a darn toilet.............this isn't just about good PR for the royal family, it's about helping people that need it and showing how the tax dollars are being spent for their benefit. Sad you can't see that or understand that.
 
Elizabeth,
I'm not responsible for how you interpret what I post; any which way is fine by me. What you think I think and what you think I understand about anything is neither here nor there.

What does puzzle me sometimes is how people embark on these character assessments when the problem is that they don't agree with somebody's thinking.

I don't think like you do. It's neither good nor bad; it is.

The one below is an excellent cause. It may not be perfect, but it doesn't have to be. So much better than a royal travelling and people commenting on how kind she looks and what she's wearing. - Just my opinion.

Médecins Sans Frontières Australia (Doctors Without Borders) - International Medical Humanitarian Aid - Australian charity
 
:bang:Redtulip:
I do know about *Doctors without Borders* very well Thank You...this isn't about how Mary looks or smiles, This is totally about her bring *awareness* to a very horrible situation in this world and how the money is being spent to help these poor people, that is where I am coming from period. I knew very little about this until she went there and when I researched and read I learnt more about it. Not everybody in this world is as lucky as you and I are to have what we have(I am forever a very grateful person), see, something I learnt a long time ago, and I have repeated it many times in my life: when a baby is being born, it has no choices in life, not of the parents, the country it's born into, the color of skin, eyes, hair, or how tall it will be or what it's IQ will be and most of all if that baby will be born *healthy* or not, so we need to learn to appreciate what we have as a person and help others who aren't as lucky as some. It doesn't take a village to help anyone, it takes an individual person to do so. And that is what Mary is doing by going there..............raising Awareness so that more people will be involved and that is her job as Crown Princess of Denmark. Sometimes the human race just doesn't get it..........:bang:
 
I think it's good for us all living in reasonable comfort to be grateful for what life has brought our way.

Mary visiting Myanmar will "increase awareness :) " only amongst those who watch Mary's comings and goings. Other than that, nothing has changed.

:bang: will give a headache to you and you alone. Your choice.
 
redtulip said:
I think it's good for us all living in reasonable comfort to be grateful for what life has brought our way.

Mary visiting Myanmar will "increase awareness :) " only amongst those who watch Mary's comings and goings. Other than that, nothing has changed.

:bang: will give a headache to you and you alone. Your choice.
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That is some statement! I fear you'll have to eat those words, because later on there will be a national fundraising here in DK. If you genuinely believe public awareness is irrelevant then why have such a fundraising event? And then no one will bother to donate, right? Well, previous fundraising events have been a great success.

Only amongs those who watch Mary, you say. - Yes, and those who watch the news here in DK on both main channels - which is practically the entire population above the age of eight or so. And those who read papers. All the major papers ran articles from the visit - so even those who just skimmed the headlines were informed as well. Then there are a number of magazines that also followed Mary's visit, BB, Hello, Hola, Huffington and so on.

The admirable organisation Doctors Without Borders which you mention, is very much dependent on donations. If I am not aware of what they do, why should I donate?

Redtulip, I ask you again: If you wish to help someone in a faraway place that is not on the news and creating awareness of the situation is pointless, what other serious options are there?

You cannot complain that people disagree with you, that's only to be expected and may I remind you: You started this debate.
 
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You don't have to donate anything to anything. I'm not asking you to do anything at all.

What debate? I'm not here to debate anything. I'm merely posting my opinion. I'm happy to be "right" or "wrong"; doesn't bother me either way.

I'm happy to participate in a debate when a) I see one to exist, and b) I feel like participating. But neither a) nor b) apply here, so no can do!

IF you do continue with your own debate, don't be too hard on yourself! Add the minutes you spend on frustration and anger, convert them into your local currency as per your own salary, and donate them to Myanmar! That's time and money better spent.

And Mary would do the same, too? Or would she not... (it's a rhetoric question).
 
If you dismiss other people's arguments and do not wish to engage in a debate then what are you doing in a forum?

You cannot just state any opinion, especially if it's based on a foundation more holed than than a Swiss cheese, and refuse any challenge.
That is troll behaviour.

May I remind you, that you yourself started this whole debate with a question.

As such I can't take you nor your opinion serious.
 
Looked up Danish Refugee Council, here: drc.dk: About DRC
It's interesting and seems a very good cause. I also share their approach (as I understand it) to help people where they are. Transporting them somewhere else creates complex problems for all involved (refugees themselves, recipient countries and aid service personnel). Yes, it's easier said than done, and I remain doubtful about a happy future for the earth.

But, what can you do? You have to do your best in everything you engage in! :flowers:
 
:previous: Ironic isn't it.
Would you even have contemplated looking up the work of the Danish Refugee Council, had Mary's visit to Myanmar not made you aware of it? :D

Oh, that's a rhetorical question. You need not engage in a debate, I respect your aversion against that.
 
See, now we're both happy! :) It's all good!

Look, I really can't put any blame on Mary for anything I do. Logically, I cannot give her any credit for what I do either.
 
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