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01-13-2014, 06:23 AM
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01-13-2014, 07:32 AM
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01-13-2014, 08:15 AM
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01-13-2014, 05:32 PM
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BB can tell that Mary landed in Denmark early this morning (around 6am). After her last event she flew from Rakhine to Myanmar's capital Yangon and from there to Bangkok in Thailand.
From Thailand Airport she flew directly to the airport in Copenhagen.
But before all that Mary was interviewed by the Danish media, including Billedbladet which has put a bit of it online:
""We can be very proud of the many Danes who are posted in Myanmar working in the Danish Refugee Council. It's a committed, dedicated and passionate work that is performed by the Danish NGOs in the relief agencies. They do it really really well, both in terms of major projects and projects down to the smallest kind such as supporting a mother who is the sole provider for her family. Today, we met a woman who is 23 years old and had to take care of nine children alone. With the Danish help she has now a slightly better chance of being able to do it. This is the difference the Danish relief workers help execute."
Kronprinsesse Mary roser danskerne i Myanmar | Billed Bladet
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01-14-2014, 12:40 AM
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01-14-2014, 07:40 AM
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01-14-2014, 07:47 AM
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saw that kongehuset has changed their front page to photo of mary in myanmar :)
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01-14-2014, 04:11 PM
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I thought it was about helping people in Myanmar, and not PR marketing for the Danish royals. Did they obtain permission to use the photo of these people on their website? I think not, in which case it should come down.
The picture sends the message "look how kind Mary is with these people".
But that's not what it was about. Or is it?
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01-14-2014, 04:25 PM
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01-14-2014, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by redtulip
I thought it was about helping people in Myanmar, and not PR marketing for the Danish royals. Did they obtain permission to use the photo of these people on their website? I think not, in which case it should come down.
The picture sends the message "look how kind Mary is with these people".
But that's not what it was about. Or is it? 
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What makes you think this was about promoting the DRF, Mary in particular?
I can assure you that the background info in the Danish press, some of which has also been mentioned here, by myself and others, is very much about the political and economical situation in Myanmar. With special emphasis on the refugee situation and the problems there are in regards to refugees. The Danish Minster for Developement's statements have also been quoted here and also the economical assistance from Denmark to Myanmar.
This is very much about creating awareness about the situation in Myanmar, culminating in a national fundraising event later on
Apart from that BB is out Thursday with a comprehensive report from the trip, which I as usual intend to summarize and we can also expect an interview with Mary, which will also be summarized here.
Mary's main function here is to create awareness. With all due respect for the new Minister for Developement, this wouldn't even get a tenth of the press here in DK had Mary not been there and it would certainly not have been mentioned here - in which case you yourself would probably know very little about the situation in Myanmar. Am I correct?
As for getting the permission of the people featured in the clips. Surely you are jesting? That's the whole purpose of the trip. I cannot recall royals anywhere on a similar (or for that matter any other official engagement) needing the permission to publish pictures of those they intend to help. The reporting of the plight of these people is I believe the main job of the media, that includes showing the refugees. Otherwise the news segments on TV would be very short and pretty boring.
Naturally Mary will be featured in many of these photos and clips.
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01-14-2014, 05:16 PM
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Muhler, this link says it all.
#18 Awareness | Stuff White People Like
I know you won't be persuaded to change your thinking, because you believe in what you think.
I know I won't be persuaded to change my thinking, unless I find there's a good reason for it, because I believe in what I think.
We differ in our thinking.
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01-14-2014, 05:57 PM
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Muhler, this link says it all.
#18 Awareness | Stuff White People Like
I know you won't be persuaded to change your thinking, because you believe in what you think.
I know I won't be persuaded to change my thinking, unless I find there's a good reason for it, because I believe in what I think.
We differ in our thinking.
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Its not just creating awareness but also highlighting the work the DRC has done and continues to do.
There is a big collection next month in DK, that will go to help/fund these projects. A big part (at least for me) in donating money is seeing results. I know I am more include to donate when I see the work that actually comes as a result.
But I know you wont change your mind even when presented evidence. You also like to say that Mary's danish is "very bad" when the evidence is quite the opposite 
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01-14-2014, 06:07 PM
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Hola article and gallery
Mary de Dinamarca: alma, corazón y vida por los más necesitados
Gallery from kongehuset.dk
Besøg i Myanmar - Kongehuset
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Thanks for the link, Polyesco.
I don't know much about the Daily Mail newspaper besides that it's English and one of the country's largest newspapers. My uncle (has lived half his life in England) read it every day. Great seeing Mary's work also in a major English newspaper.
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01-14-2014, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by redtulip
Muhler, this link says it all.
#18 Awareness | Stuff White People Like
I know you won't be persuaded to change your thinking, because you believe in what you think.
I know I won't be persuaded to change my thinking, unless I find there's a good reason for it, because I believe in what I think.
We differ in our thinking.
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An interesting argument.
So royals shouldn't go to areas with refugees? And the press following them shouldn't make the public aware of what is going on?
I must confess that my knowledge about the refugee situation in Myanmar before this visit by Mary was quite limited. As such, without that knowledge I would feel the money spend by the Danish government in Myanmar and the loan to Myanmar which has been absolved was a waste of taxpayer money, which would be better if put to use somewhere else. - Somewhere else I was aware of...
That would mean no money to refugees in Myanmar. And no financial aide to the struggeling new democracy in Myanmar either.
That would be the consequences of the logic you apply and the article you refer to.
I realise the futillity of persuading you to change your mind and I will not attempt to do so. Instead I will ask you one question: If awareness is out, what do you propose should otherwise be done to help refugees in Myanmar - or for that matter anywhere else, that is not on the news?
It's an interesting link BTW. I can't figure out whether it's satirical or genuinely racist. (I assume that whites, I'm pigment-challenged myself, can also be victims of racism)?
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01-14-2014, 06:50 PM
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An interesting argument.
So royals shouldn't go to areas with refugees? And the press following them shouldn't make the public aware of what is going on?
I must confess that my knowledge about the refugee situation in Myanmar before this visit by Mary was quite limited. As such, without that knowledge I would feel the money spend by the Danish government in Myanmar and the loan to Myanmar which has been absolved was a waste of taxpayer money, which would be better if put to use somewhere else. - Somewhere else I was aware of...
That would mean no money to refugees in Myanmar. And no financial aide to the struggeling new democracy in Myanmar either.
That would be the consequences of the logic you apply and the article you refer to.
I realise the futillity of persuading you to change your mind and I will not attempt to do so. Instead I will ask you one question: If awareness is out, what do you propose should otherwise be done to help refugees in Myanmar - or for that matter anywhere else, that is not on the news?
It's an interesting link BTW. I can't figure out whether it's satirical or genuinely racist. (I assume that whites, I'm pigment-challenged myself, can also be victims of racism)?
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Bingo  
Very nicely put.
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01-14-2014, 06:57 PM
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Polyesco, I find snide personal remarks about a stranger on a message board mean and counter productive. They may make you feel better, but as such you don't know me and I don't know you.
You may consider what you experience as evidence of something, and I often do the same. But actually what one perceives as evidence can be questioned on the whole...
How to read the link? Everyone is free the read what they want or think they see.- Yes, there's a lot of racism rampant everywhere. It's self-evident that anyone can be a victim.
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01-14-2014, 06:59 PM
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But, criticism does not racism mean.
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01-14-2014, 07:07 PM
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Would you mind answering my question: What is the alternative to creating awareness if you wish to help people in a faraway place that is not currently on the news?
Criticism is indeed not racism, unless it is based on the assumption that a particular skin colour, in this case white, means that you are less sincere.
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01-14-2014, 07:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhler
An interesting argument.
So royals shouldn't go to areas with refugees? And the press following them shouldn't make the public aware of what is going on?
I must confess that my knowledge about the refugee situation in Myanmar before this visit by Mary was quite limited. As such, without that knowledge I would feel the money spend by the Danish government in Myanmar and the loan to Myanmar which has been absolved was a waste of taxpayer money, which would be better if put to use somewhere else. - Somewhere else I was aware of...
That would mean no money to refugees in Myanmar. And no financial aide to the struggeling new democracy in Myanmar either.
That would be the consequences of the logic you apply and the article you refer to.
I realise the futillity of persuading you to change your mind and I will not attempt to do so. Instead I will ask you one question: If awareness is out, what do you propose should otherwise be done to help refugees in Myanmar - or for that matter anywhere else, that is not on the news?
It's an interesting link BTW. I can't figure out whether it's satirical or genuinely racist. (I assume that whites, I'm pigment-challenged myself, can also be victims of racism)?
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How entertaining that Redtulip takes a satirical blog like 'stuff white people like' (SWPL) seriously because it (SWPL) is meant to chronicle a phenomenon that I believe is also known in Denmark as 'beefsteak socialism' or NIMBYism in North America. I know 'beefsteak socialism' in The Netherlands through years of watching members of the PvdA (Dutch labour party) speak for the less fortunate as they quaff glasses of expensive French wine at luxurious restaurants in Amsterdam-Buitenveldert!  No doubt there is a similar expression for Danish socialists who press 'like' on their Iphones when they are sent a facebook link to the latest outrage in Zuckerbergia  In any case, the difference between a truly committed person like the Crown Princess Mary who actually packs her suitcase(or orders it packed, who knows!  ) and goes to these places and someone like Redtulip (who knows) is one that I invite and challenge Redtulip to answer with examples of what you, Redtulip, have done to increase awareness of STD (sexually transmitted disease, in case you didn't know  ) in Myanmar!
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01-14-2014, 07:14 PM
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Yes, Gerry. We also have a name for such people: kystbanesocialister = posh neighborhood-socialists.
They, and not least their parents (good grief!) are pretty difficult to take serious.
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