Crown Prince Frederik's Old Girlfriends

[Roskilde]

Yes, very welcome Marlene and congratulations on your first post

But oh, please don't bring the famous Trine Willeman's nonsense and conspiracy theories about the royal family with you.

[rchainho]

Originally Posted by Muhler

Congratulations on your first post.

I don't think it's the fact that Katja was Danish or even Katja herself, that was the issue.
I happen to know her family and also Katja, albeit on a limited basis. (DK is a small country). But certainly well enough!
Let me put it like this: It is good, very good, that Frederik did not marry Katja.

And that is all I will ever say on this matter on a forum like this.

The PAST can be anywhere. In the streets or anywhere in the world. That's a stupid law. That's the royal family less Danish i know.

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by rchainho

The PAST can be anywhere. In the streets or anywhere in the world. That's a stupid law. That's the royal family less Danish i know.

I think you misunderstood Malenemalene's post as well as my response.
There is no law prohibiting members of the DRF, let alone the heir, from marrying Danes.
The most common thing over the centuries was for the heirs to marry foreigners - for political and dynastic reasons.

[Blog Real]

Frederik and Ex:

http://imageupper.com/i/?S0200010060...16785123748277
http://imageupper.com/i/?S0200010060...16785123748277

[MidwestMom]

Somewhere, I saw a brief discussion concerning a weekend party that QMII gave so Frederik could meet some young ladies from other noble houses before he became engaged to Mary. If it was on this forum, could someone direct me to the proper thread?

[Blog Real]

Prince Frederik and Nina Klinker-Jörgensen.
https://c9.quickcachr.fotos.sapo.pt/...204_tzkZy.jpeg

Prince Frederik and Katja Storkholm:
https://c10.quickcachr.fotos.sapo.pt...167_1mozE.jpeg

https://c9.quickcachr.fotos.sapo.pt/...166_ZLZ6f.jpeg

Prince Frederik and Malou Aamund:
https://c2.quickcachr.fotos.sapo.pt/...205_QnLhq.jpeg

Prince Frederik and Maria Montell:
https://c6.quickcachr.fotos.sapo.pt/...208_ZC3gL.jpeg

Photos of Prince Frederik and Maria Montell:
https://images.seoghoer.dk/s3fs-publ...=imgixjs-3.4.0

https://c6.quickcachr.fotos.sapo.pt/...208_ZC3gL.jpeg

https://bt.bmcdn.dk/media/cache/reso...ia-montell.jpg

https://bt.bmcdn.dk/media/cache/reso...i-varmen--.jpg

[Somebody]

Both Katja Storkholm and Maria Montell were photographed on quite official events - given that Frederik is wearing the order of the Elephant. So, that seemed to have been quite serious for them to join him to an official event. What events were they and how long had they been together when the event happened?

Edit: according to this blogpost Frederik and Maria were in a relationship for about 2 years around 1999, so that sounds as if they had broken up not that long before Frederik met Mary. Good to see that they are still friends (or at least were friends in 2009).

[Blog Real]

I think Bettina Odum also accompanied Frederik to some event.
But yes, relationships with Katja Storkholm, Maria Montell and Bettina Odum must have been Frederik's most serious relationships before meeting Mary Donaldson.

[polyesco]

I think these pictures of Frederik with the order of the elephant and girlfriends are at various weddings. So private not official events.

[JusNic]

Originally Posted by Muhler

Congratulations on your first post.

I don't think it's the fact that Katja was Danish or even Katja herself, that was the issue.
I happen to know her family and also Katja, albeit on a limited basis. (DK is a small country). But certainly well enough!
Let me put it like this: It is good, very good, that Frederik did not marry Katja.

And that is all I will ever say on this matter on a forum like this.

Wow. Must have been bad huh?

I’m new to this forum, so I’m still attempting to navigate how this works lol. Being that I am from America, I just found out about the Danish Royal family. From what I’ve been finding out, they are amazing :)

It is interesting to read about all his old flames before he met Mary. I did read somewhere that QMII did not approve of their relationship and encouraged him to find another girl of royalty in particular, but he was deeply in love with Mary. I just can’t remember the article name. I think it was a weekend on a ship? If someone can direct me to it that would be great!

Very interesting insight about Katja, Muhler. 😳

[Muhler]

Welcome.

I can very clearly say that QMII expecting Frederik to find a royal girl is not true.
That must have been something some journalist made up.

Two reasons:

QMII's parents tried to set her up with suitable royal bachelors when she was young - and she did not appreciate it! (She said that in a TV-portrait. Can't remember which one, but I can still se her face, telling that story.)

The second reason is from a press conference from the early 90's or late 80', where a journalist (I believe it was Bodil Cath from BT) asked whether Frederik's future girlfriends should be blue-blooded, to which QMII flattened her by laughingly retorting that they didn't want a blood-sample...
I may find that question on YouTube.

[Nordic]

Originally Posted by JusNic

I did read somewhere that QMII did not approve of their relationship and encouraged him to find another girl of royalty in particular, but he was deeply in love with Mary. I just can’t remember the article name.

Perhaps that part is from that Australian movie about Frederik and Mary's romance?

From an interview with Mary in 2004, short excerpt and google trans:

"- It was at Amalienborg that I met the Queen for the first time. She respected and understood the importance of keeping the development of our relationship completely to ourselves. She could see that it was serious ... Had the meeting been negative, I have no idea what had happened. "

Which means, Mary got the "green light" at the first meeting which was spring/early 2002.

[JusNic]

Thank you both for the speedy replies :)

I also read an excerpt from Fred’s book “Under the Beam” (thanks to Muhler) that the first meeting was very impressive, and that Queen Ingrid would approve.

I thought the book was very interesting, and was very happy it was translated into English :)

I also read that Fred was dead set on marrying Katja. I wonder what would have happened if he did indeed marry her and then met Mary? Hmmmm

Sitting here on a grey afternoon where I live in America, I must say it is interesting to learn about different royals/ with Frederick and Mary being my favs!

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by JusNic

I also read that Fred was dead set on marrying Katja. I wonder what would have happened if he did indeed marry her and then met Mary? Hmmmm

Well, he didn't and I think he and Denmark can be grateful that he eventually met Mary instead.
Marrying Katja, is a what-if that is discussed on a TRF forum in an alternative universe, and let us leave them discuss to their hearts desire there, eh.
It would only be speculations anyway.

Katja married and divorced an attorney. Her father is fairly recently dead, I understand.

[JusNic]

Interesting.

Although you did say, and it was underlined that it was great that Frederick did not Mary Katja. I wonder what happened there?

[Muhler]

They decided to break up, for reasons we can only speculate about.

I know some first hand details about Katja and her family, but I will not go into any further details.
That would be inappropriate and unfair towards Frederik and towards Katja and her family.
It's in the past, let us leave it there.

And with that I think that particular subject has reached the end of the line.
There are as you point out many, many other things to discuss in regards to the DRF.

[JusNic]

Oh no, it wasn’t my intention to go into any details. I’m sorry if you took it that way.

[Nordic]

[QUOTE=Muhler;2431183:
There are as you point out many, many other things to discuss in regards to the DRF. [/QUOTE]

Like the woman Frederik has been together with for the past 20 years...

[JusNic]

YES!!!! Did I say she was fantastic???? I don’t mean to bring up the past. The past is the past. The way F and M met is an absolute fairy tale

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by JusNic

Oh no, it wasn’t my intention to go into any details. I’m sorry if you took it that way.

I didn't.
But discussing what is basically unverifiable gossip, is very much frowned upon here. And that's good, we try to keep TRF informative and factual.