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08-07-2007, 08:15 AM
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lol. He dated Morgan Fairchild? She's old enough to be his grandmother, non. When I see the list of ex-girlfriends, I see an equal opportunity dater. Some are beautiful, some are pretty, and others are quite unattractive. He was lucky to find Mary, imo. Even though Mary did not look her best back then, he still saw something special and what was to come.
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I agree! Not all men can recognize a diamond in the rough (not that Mary was ugly or anything), but it takes a special man to go beyond the typical bleach blond and see someone's character. Mary was obviously someone special.
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08-07-2007, 05:04 PM
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Hi!
Madeleine Bonde is a Swedish Nobilty. She is not to bad looking, I loved Katja when Frederik was involved with her. I was sad that they had to break up with each other. I like Mary too and Denmark is going to have a future goodlooking queen. She was the best of them all ecept for Madeleine Bonde
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I have not seen Madeleine Bonde, she must be pretty too so as Katja but I think the greatest judge was Frederick himself.
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08-08-2007, 12:12 AM
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The pics I have seen of Fred's old flames showed that they were very attractive ladies but as far as I'm concerned he chose the best ...Mary.
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08-27-2007, 03:24 PM
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I also think Bettina Ødum was rather close to an engagement with Frederik,but it did not last :unhappy:
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I read in different newspapers and on different homepages, that Crownprince Frederik was together with Bettina Ødum in 2001. Wasn't he together with Mary Donaldson after the Olympic Games in 2000? Got I a wrong information? Had he two girlfriends at the same time?
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08-27-2007, 05:42 PM
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Nope, that's Mary.
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If that's the case, then I was wrong when I thought no picture of the old-Mary could impress me more than Starmakers' ...
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08-27-2007, 06:37 PM
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I read in different newspapers and on different homepages, that Crownprince Frederik was together with Bettina Ødum in 2001. Wasn't he together with Mary Donaldson after the Olympic Games in 2000? Got I a wrong information? Had he two girlfriends at the same time?
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Yes he did. He and Bettina apparently spent New Year's together and were seen in January 2001, I think at Trend.
So yes, there was a very clear overlap, when it would seem he cheated on Bettina with Mary.
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08-27-2007, 09:30 PM
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Yes he did. He and Bettina apparently spent New Year's together and were seen in January 2001, I think at Trend.
So yes, there was a very clear overlap, when it would seem he cheated on Bettina with Mary.
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What??? I did not know that!! I am shocked!! Mary as the other woman??? Say it isn't so!
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08-27-2007, 10:08 PM
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Yes he did. He and Bettina apparently spent New Year's together and were seen in January 2001, I think at Trend.
So yes, there was a very clear overlap, when it would seem he cheated on Bettina with Mary.
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Thanks, Little Star, but I have one question: Do you have any valid reference/source to support this claim?
I do remember reading, if my memory serves me correctly, that Frederik broke up Bettina sometime in late 2000 early 2001, but unfortunately I do not have the original source either.
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08-28-2007, 03:13 AM
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Yes he did. He and Bettina apparently spent New Year's together and were seen in January 2001, I think at Trend.
So yes, there was a very clear overlap, when it would seem he cheated on Bettina with Mary.
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Is that a fact is it? Lets not point fingers without concrete evidence and supporting evidence.
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08-28-2007, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Little_star
Yes he did. He and Bettina apparently spent New Year's together and were seen in January 2001, I think at Trend.
So yes, there was a very clear overlap, when it would seem he cheated on Bettina with Mary.
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So he dated Mary Donaldson although he was still together with Bettina Ødum.
Oh! I am surprised...
I read, that they official split in March 2001... You can "google it". (But I thougt that this was / is just a wrong announcement, because I couldn't believe it, after I saw the ZDF-oh-so-sweet-report about the Crownprince-Couple...)
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08-28-2007, 09:49 AM
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Fred Seems To Have Been Quite A Ladies Man!
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08-28-2007, 11:25 AM
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Oh, c'mon. CPF was dating Mary the end of 2000 and the beginning of 2000? Didn't we read where initially they were only friends writing to each other? Another scenario could be that he was letting Bettina down gently by not severing the relationship over the holidays.
Sorry for the typo; that's mmeant to be the beginning of 2001
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08-28-2007, 12:48 PM
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Oh, c'mon. CPF was dating Mary the end of 2000 and the beginning of 2000? Didn't we read where initially they were only friends writing to each other? Another scenario could be that he was letting Bettina down gently by not severing the relationship over the holidays.
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I was going to post something similar. IF that is true (waiting for the source) then it's quite possible that Fred and Mary were in that freindship stage where you meet someone and you just like each other's company. And let's not forget that Mary lived half a world away! So I doubt she was the other woman in the traditional sense of the word. IF her was dating Bettina in 2001, he and Mary were probably not established as a romantic couple. JMO.
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08-28-2007, 01:04 PM
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I think Mary is much more better looking with him, than all his other ex's.
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08-28-2007, 03:39 PM
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Fred and Mary met in Sept 2000. He was in Aus late Oct and went home hurriedly because of the declining health of his grandmother and subsequent death. Mary didn't hear from Fred for a couple of months after that. Also they were corresponding with each so it could be he was still seeing Bettina at the time of meeting Mary. It would have been a whole new ball game if he was seeing Bettina once he and Mary became serious and realised that the relationship would possibly lead to something serious. It happens to couples all over the world, they are going out with someone and at the same time meet their soulmate who is someone else.
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08-28-2007, 04:50 PM
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LOL!
What's the fuss? I don't have problems if Bettina announced the split officially in March 2001. This is what I've gathered too and also that Bettina has met her current husband in December 2000.
Frederik and Bettina may have spent some time in Trent after Frederik met Mary. And yes it's even possible Frederik and Bettina still had a sexual relationship. Though if you didn't have your nose under Frederiks bedsheets at this time you just can't be sure.
After all Frederik could have told Bettina at Trent that it's really over and that there is no way back, away from the curious eyes of the public. To me if a royal man is a gentleman he will leave it to his former girlfriend to announce the split. Some people and not only woman need a rather rough wake up call that it's over.
Regardless of Frederiks relationship with Mary I'm convinced that the thing between him and Bettina had reached it's end when Bettina was silly enough to remove her bikini top in public. It's beyond me how an educated intelligent woman could act so incredible stupid. I'm not surprised that Bettina needed a scapegoat to admit it to herself and the public that it's over.
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08-28-2007, 10:23 PM
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Regardless of Frederiks relationship with Mary I'm convinced that the thing between him and Bettina had reached it's end when Bettina was silly enough to remove her bikini top in public. It's beyond me how an educated intelligent woman could act so incredible stupid. I'm not surprised that Bettina needed a scapegoat to admit it to herself and the public that it's over.
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Going topless in Denmark and other parts of Europe is considered normal, so while it probably wasn't the smartest thing to do I wouldn't call it "incredible stupid." That was probably something she was used to doing. Didn't she and Frederik remain a couple for months after that? I don't think Bettina had any scapegoats....the relationship just reached its end, that's all.
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08-29-2007, 02:09 AM
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Fred and Mary met in Sept 2000. He was in Aus late Oct and went home hurriedly because of the declining health of his grandmother and subsequent death. Mary didn't hear from Fred for a couple of months after that. Also they were corresponding with each so it could be he was still seeing Bettina at the time of meeting Mary. It would have been a whole new ball game if he was seeing Bettina once he and Mary became serious and realised that the relationship would possibly lead to something serious. It happens to couples all over the world, they are going out with someone and at the same time meet their soulmate who is someone else.
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OK, that gives a little more info on the timeline. I didn't know he has stopped speaking with Mary during that time. He was probably grieving but realized he had a spark with Mary and decided to pursue her when he came out of it. Maybe Bettina wasn't there for him in the way he needed and Mary was?
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08-29-2007, 06:52 AM
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Yes he did. He and Bettina apparently spent New Year's together and were seen in January 2001, I think at Trend.
So yes, there was a very clear overlap, when it would seem he cheated on Bettina with Mary.
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We know when Mary and Frederik met, we know - because they said it - that their relationship developed gradually and we know that Bettina told the press about the breakup in March 2001 (which does not necessarily mean the breakup itself was in March). And that's all.
We don't know when the relationship between Mary and Frederik became more than friendship and when the relationship with Bettina ended and whether there was a "very clear overlap" or not and who broke up with whom and for what reason (e.g. Bettina met her later husband in Dec 2000).
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i wil;l agree withthat as well , we just do not no.
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