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08-20-2017, 12:26 AM
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Australian TV presenter Lisa Wilkinson is at Hamilton Island and has just posted that she is watching Frederik and Mary sailing on "Wild Oats".
(I thought Mary still had obligations in Denmark and wasn't here yet?)
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Looks like a case of assuming too much. She has an official event on the calendar tomorrow Monday. If she is going after that, who knows...
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08-20-2017, 04:53 AM
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Just saw Frederik on Australian news: Crown Prince Frederik arrived at Hamilton Island... Princess Mary is at home in Denmark with their children. There was also a very short interview.
So I guess it's safer to assume that Mary is not in Australia (yet). She may go after her engagement on 21st.
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08-21-2017, 01:18 PM
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Do members of the DRF not carry ID?
It's weird, I actually heard about this not long ago from friends living in Brisbane. Apparently they make you scan your ID before entering the bar or club and it's not so much about proving your age, (my friends are in their mid 30s), but rather about the owners being able to identify you if you cause trouble. I thought it seemed like not a bad idea but they tell me it's not been very popular, probably because of situations like Frederik's, only involving normal people who can't call on the police to back them up. 
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08-21-2017, 01:29 PM
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 I guess he carries a diplomatic passport, but he may not be that interested in flaunting it to just anyone - who might call the press or worse...
So if he and his party can't get in anywhere in Brisbane due to this, I imagine Frederik PET officers called in the locals. Who indeed showed up in force. - Makes a refreshing diversion on an otherwise (hopefully) uneventful watch.
There is something about Australian bars and Frederik... 
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08-21-2017, 06:06 PM
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According to this article in Daily Mail: Danish Crown Prince Frederik turned away from Brisbane bar | Daily Mail Online
Frederik and a number of friends were turned away from a bar in Brisbane, because they couldn't produce ID proving they were of legal age for drinking.
After a brief discussion the party returned fifteen minutes later with no less than seven police officers, who could confirm that they indeed were of legal age.
We're gonna hear more on that one, that's for sure! |
Indeed Muhler, three of the national TV channels - 7, 9 and ABC - had reports about it this morning, also in my Sydney newspaper. The most popular Queensland paper had it as the biggest story on their front page today.
Here's another article -
No Cookies | The Courier Mail
And camelot23ca is right - the ID is not about legal drinking age. It's a part of the lock-out laws introduced in many parts of Australia to try and curb the number of deaths from one-punch attacks that have killed many innocent people just passing by in the street.
The businesses that make money from out-of-control drunks are complaining, but the hospitals, police and families of victims, are all glad of these laws being bought in.
Also very strict laws now regarding bringing alcohol to the cricket, fire-works displays etc., to safeguard the general public from the drunk and angry.
And while the manager at the Jade Buddha was "running around like a lunatic" organising wait staff, Frederik went to the bar himself where he was asked "hey dude, what can I get you". (A "Dark and Stormy" apparently.)
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/quee...21-gy188l.html
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08-21-2017, 09:18 PM
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It sounds a bit ridiculous but the bar staff were just doing their job. The Queensland law requires everyone the show appropriate ID after 10PM and scan it into the system upon entry. So it's not about whether the security believed you are of age, it's about documenting everyone's info in case anything happens.
If I were the bar manager I wouldn't want to be known giving exceptions to 'royals/celebrities' (and breaking the law) when the media finds out. So Freddie, bring your diplomatic passport with you next time
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08-21-2017, 11:06 PM
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The reports I have heard is that Fred is exempt - because he has a diplomatic passport - but how to prove that without having one to produce I don't know.
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08-22-2017, 12:39 AM
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No Cookies | The Courier Mail
More from the local papers. The main problem seems to be that the scanners at the door have problems scanning foreign ID papers, which is of course a problem, if you wish to have foreigners among your guests at such establishments. This is not the first time something like this has happened in regards to foreigners.
Brisbane bar owner thought Prince Frederik was a terrorist | Daily Mail Online
Enjoy the video in the Daily Mail article. 
I think the owner is very pleased indeed! He's got more nation wide publicity than he could ever dream of.
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The reports I have heard is that Fred is exempt - because he has a diplomatic passport - but how to prove that without having one to produce I don't know.
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Having a diplomatic passport does not mean you are not required to follow the laws of in this case Australia, it just means he immune from prosecution from the Australian authorities.
I read somewhere that the protections officers had apparently said that with a diplomatic passport Frederik was not subject to the ID laws. He is actually, and so is his entourage and PET officers. So whether the police officers have "interpreted the facts in a liberal way" or whether it's a misunderstanding remains to be seen.
But with several police officers around, I think it's fairly safe to say they can guarantee he won't cause trouble... 
The news has hit DK by now.
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08-22-2017, 03:27 AM
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I was just watching the news. I think some politician use Frederik's incident to criticize the lock-out laws in the federal parliament today. (The law itself was controversial even before this.)
I was actually surprised that those politicians knew the story of how Fred & Mary met in 2000. I was too young to remember how publicized that story was back in the day...
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08-22-2017, 05:10 AM
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Here's a video of HRH The Crown Prince at the Audi Hamilton Island Race Week
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08-22-2017, 05:37 AM
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And for our general amusement, yet another article on the ID-saga: QLD MP’s jibe as Prince Frederik refused from Brisbane bar | Daily Mail Online
"Diplomatic incident"
"Not take great offense"
"No official complaint"
Is it by any chance the silly season in Australia right now?
I have a feeling Frederik had a quiet chuckle.
As has been reported by the Danish media, this sure has started a debate in Australia it seems.
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08-22-2017, 02:49 PM
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Imperial Majesty
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Thanks, Polyesco.
That press conference made a lot of sense.
Frederik don't go to a bar here in DK as well, without PET vetting the place first.
Seems to me Frederik was the first dignitary who tested the new more rigid system, which has just been put in place.
Frederik is similar to Danish Prime Minister or a a vice president of a republic.
It would indeed be considered unfortunate... if Frederik had been required to have his diplomatic passport scanned by bouncers, while being surrounded by police officers, who were there to protect him.
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08-22-2017, 07:00 PM
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No favouritism for Frederik. Video of some of the action from the last few days -
https://youtu.be/8eRGbxT6ZUc
(Did some Australian Danes go up to Hamilton Island to wave the Danish flag?)
Photo of Frederik's boat "baby Oats", (Wild Oats X, remaned "Nanoq" for the series), and the bigger Wild Oats X1.
https://hamiltonisland.intelligenceb...e=1&suffix=2-1
Frederik's yacht currently 3rd in the series after one win, and two fourths. Today - Wednesday - is a lay-day. Current series results -
IRC Racing - Results to Race
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08-22-2017, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Muhler
Thanks, Polyesco.
That press conference made a lot of sense.
Frederik don't go to a bar here in DK as well, without PET vetting the place first.
Seems to me Frederik was the first dignitary who tested the new more rigid system, which has just been put in place.
Frederik is similar to Danish Prime Minister or a a vice president of a republic.
It would indeed be considered unfortunate... if Frederik had been required to have his diplomatic passport scanned by bouncers, while being surrounded by police officers, who were there to protect him.
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Yeah the law is quite new, only came in effect since 1st July I think. So I guess from now on the police protection unit should notify their guests of the rules before heading down to any licensed venue
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08-23-2017, 12:53 AM
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Yeah the law is quite new, only came in effect since 1st July I think. So I guess from now on the police protection unit should notify their guests of the rules before heading down to any licensed venue |
More likely this has created a precedence for visiting dignitaries.
While Frederik probably don't care that much, there are visiting dignitaries who would be very offended if someone were to check their identity when trying to enter a bar. And certainly if the one insisting on checking them is a mere bouncer!
So while this story has hardly registered here in DK, there would be countries were such a thing would cause a public uproar. - That is if the laws were to be upheld to the letter.
So this was a nice little general rehearsal.
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08-23-2017, 04:45 AM
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