Crown Prince Frederik and Crown Princess Mary's Visit to Italy: November 6-8, 2018

[eya]

Crown Prince Couple visit to Italy 6-8 November 2018

"In 2018, Rome will fill 2,771 years, and since the beginning of Rome, innovation and science have been an integral part of Italian society and business.

Crown Prince couple will be from 6 to 8. November 2018 visit Italy with a larger Danish branch office. The headline for the Danish business promotion is "Industrial Renaissance - Catalyst for Tomorrow's Business"."

Kronprinsparret i spidsen for erhvervsfremstød til Rom | Kongehuset

 

[Muhler]

That's basically a follow up on QMII's last visit to Rome not that long ago.

 

[Mbruno]

So is it essentially a business/ trade mission ? I wish they would extend the scope of the visit.

 

[Nordic]

So is it essentially a business/ trade mission ? I wish they would extend the scope of the visit.

https://danishroyalvisit.dk/italy2018/


Yes, but the program for visits like this sometimes include other events too. Something to do with culture etc

 

[eya]

And some details about this visit:

"Business promotion with the Crown Prince couple has 36 registered companies and will focus on solutions in health, climate change, water and energy, urbanization and sustainable food production.

The headline for the Danish business promotion is "Italy - We Think Business" and will have the following sectoral traces:
Healthcare
Urban & Cleantech
Food & Beverages

Business promotion takes place in the capital Rome where D.K.H. The Crown Prince and Crown Princess participate in a number of business activities aimed at strengthening relations between Denmark and Italy and supporting the position of Danish companies in Italy. Crown Prince couple will attend the official opening of business promotion, have lunch with President Mattarella in the presidential palace, visit business seminars and businesses and attend Grand Dinner."

Presserejse: Kronprinsparret i spidsen for stort erhvervsfremstød til Italien den 6.-8. november 2018 | Kongehuset

 

[iceflower]

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The Palace shared an overview of the visit's programme:


** Program for Rome visit **

Tuesday, 6 November

Luncheon at Palazzo del Quirinale
13.30
The Crown Prince Couple are received by Italy’s president, HE Sergio Mattarella, as guests at a luncheon at the presidential palace Palazzo del Quirinale.

Visit at Terme Di Caracalla
15.15


Welcoming reception
19.30


Wednesday, 7 November

Official opening of the business promotional campaign
09.45

HRH The Crown Prince’s program

Visit at seminar on healthcare
10.45

HRH The Crown Princess’s program

Visit at seminar on urbanization
10.45

Visit at seminar on food products
11.15


HRH The Crown Prince’s program

Visit at the seminar on urbanization
11.40

HRH The Crown Princess’s program

Visit at the seminar on healthcare
12.10

HRH The Crown Prince’s program

Visit at the seminar on food products
12.30

The Crown Prince Couple’s program

Business luncheon
13.10


High-level panel discussion
15.00

Visit at Gastro Event
17.00

Official dinner
19.45


Thursday, 8 November

Visit with His Holiness Pope Francis
10.00

HRH The Crown Prince’s program

Visit at the Trevi Fountain
11.20

The Crown Prince Couple’s program

Visit at Hospital Bambino Gesu
13.30

 

[Muhler]

Thanks, Iceflower.

A fairly routine, so to speak, commerce visit.
DK has a considerable export of energy saving products to Italy, both for the ordinary household as well as the industry and major buildings for the public.

The visit to the children's hospital couldn't be more "traditional". That's almost mandatory for princesses and should provide some nice photos with Mary.

 

[polyesco]

Looks like a good agenda. These trips have become a highlight with the couple. Busy days both together and separately .

Muhler, both will go to the Hospital visit, co nice pictures of Frederik too

article on the upcoming visit
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelige/danmark/kronprinsesse-mary-og-kronprins-frederik-moeder-paven

 

[carlota]

well, something interesting in the agenda is that they will be received by pope francis

i guess if we may see mary in a black mantilla for the first time for the occasion, as did other princesses in the past:

diana
madeleine
haya
stephanie

 

[Muhler]

well, something interesting in the agenda is that they will be received by pope francis

i guess if we may see mary in a black mantilla for the first time for the occasion, as did other princesses in the past:

diana
madeleine
haya
stephanie

That's interesting.

I'm not familiar with the protocol regarding audiences with the Pope.
Is a mantilla mandatory? Also for Protestants? Or does it not have any religious meaning?

 

[ricarda]

Well, neither Diana nor Madeleine & Silvia nor Haya are Catholics.
So, it seems to be a traditional thing to wear, regardless of your religion.

 

[CrownPrincessJava]

That's interesting.

I'm not familiar with the protocol regarding audiences with the Pope.
Is a mantilla mandatory? Also for Protestants? Or does it not have any religious meaning?

It's protocol. Even QEII has worn the mantilla being received by the Vatican

 

[KMD]

I believe that non Catholics wear black, including a mantilla as head covering. Catholics can wear white.

 

[Iolanthe]

It's protocol. Even QEII has worn the mantilla being received by the Vatican

I am not so sure how strict the rule is. Angela Merkel (daughter of a Lutheran pastor) seemed to wear one visiting John Paul II while being only party chairman and didn't while seeing Franciscus when she was chancellor. (Pictures of both events e.g. in this article https://www.welt.de/politik/deutsch...-Pizza-muss-Merkel-beim-Papst-verzichten.html )

 

[KMD]

Princess Charlene of Monaco wore black when meeting the Pope in 2013 and white in 2016.

 

[Stefan]

The rule is/was that the Queen of Spain, the Queen of the Belgians and the Grand Duchess of Luxmbourg and Princesses of Savoy had the "Privilege de Blanc" so they can wear white. This seems now also have been granted to the Princess of Monaco.

I am not so sure how strict the rule is. Angela Merkel (daughter of a Lutheran pastor) seemed to wear one visiting John Paul II while being only party chairman and didn't while seeing Franciscus when she was chancellor. (Pictures of both events e.g. in this article https://www.welt.de/politik/deutsch...-Pizza-muss-Merkel-beim-Papst-verzichten.html )

The Protoolö seems to much more relaxedd under his succesors then under Pope John Paul II.

 

[KMD]

The Queen wore colours at her last meeting with the Pope. At previous meetings with previous Popes, ( she’s met five of them!) she wore black, a mantilla with a tiara, and a hat with a veil. Pope Francis is to be thanked for his more liberal views. Queen Letizia wore a smart white suit, no mantilla.

 

[Muhler]

I know it's a bit nerdy, but I do find details of protocol absolutely fascinating!
Especially the history behind why something is done, so please keep your input coming.

 

[polyesco]

A good article on their visit tomorrow focusing on the Food sector
Kronprinsparret præsenterer Danmark i Italien | Maskinbladet

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https://foodnationdenmark.dk/news/t...H6Ltc5knxlQoBqygGhjTyVtCYHfjuoApKtghi9c5FteS4

"The Royal Family represents my country abroad and is a constant reference point for our people". So he tells La Stampa, Erik Vilstrup Lorenzen, Danish Ambassador to Italy.
https://www.lastampa.it/2018/11/04/...RMOYQhfJWv6lTHtJ-kgOHtMZCyj5Af2wUpdRy0l9imNDc

Article on Frederik and Mary's visit to the Pope
Kronprinsparret i audiens hos paven - TV 2

For point of reference, here is what the Queen wore when she met the pope in 2006
https://berlingske.bmcdn.dk/media/c...-dronning-margrethe-i-audiens-hos-paven--.jpg
https://imageservice.nordjyske.dk/i...c-0b837eee88c9.jpg?w=960&mode=crop&scale=both

 

[Muhler]

Thanks, Polyesco.

I hope someone will help us going through the finer details at the audience. ?

 

[King of the Jungle]

To meet Pope Francis is an honour.
Looking forward to hearing more about their entire Italian tour.

 

[eya]

CP Couple arrives in Rome, Italy and meets with the President Sergio Motarella

https://www.quirinale.it/elementi/18716

https://www.facebook.com/detdanskekongehus/posts/799967947008455

Video
https://www.quirinale.it/elementi/18717

 

[polyesco]

thanks Eya they look great!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrUuXgpWoAAnLaG.jpg

with the president

https://twitter.com/x/status/1059820571058491392

another video

gallery from the DRF website
Erhvervsfremstød i Italien - dag 1 | Kongehuset

it looks like they traveled via Danish Air Force
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bp1edRunK4c/?utm_source=ig_embed

 

[Muhler]

Now, that's a workplace I'd love to go to every day!

I'm pleased to see that several of the gentlemen took Mary and the First Lady's hand and led it towards their lips, not kissing the hands like uncouth ruffians would. That's the way to do it.

Italy is DK's 10th largest trading partner and we'd like to increase the export. Not only of sustainable solutions and energy saving devices but quality products is something very sought after by the Italian consumers.

As a uniform nerd, I can't help noticing the lancers providing the honor guard in the court yard as well as the heavy dragoons standing by the doors.

I find it interesting and flattering that M&F were invited to lunch by the President. Protocol-wise M&F are one rank below him, so it would be perfectly appropriate had they been received by the vice-President or someone on a similar level.

 

[polyesco]

Glad to hear. They have been greeted by Presidents/Prime Ministers usually during these visits

video, visit to the Terme Di Caracalla

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=313516615903015

Mary switch to some more comfortable shoes

"The Crown Prince pair received this afternoon an insight into a very significant part of the water distribution of ancient Rome when their Royal Highness visited Terme Di Caracalla in Rome. The terms are among the best preserved bathing areas from ancient Rome."
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bp2Td9QgV8n/

added:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-A2fDWk9B...iLACLcBGAs/s1600/Princess-Mary-Frederik-1.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/--er4olYY...-3QCLcBGAs/s1600/Princess-Mary-Frederik-2.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FIoiFHWW...n2gCLcBGAs/s1600/Princess-Mary-Frederik-3.jpg

Welcoming Reception for the Business delgation
Beautiful Mary
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bp2YTkrludx/?utm_source=ig_embed
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrV2ClqW4AAEaHg.jpg

It is a great honor to welcome the Crown Prince Pair in Rome. The Italian market is very important for DK companies. Good with strong attendance

https://twitter.com/x/status/1059889243290513408

 

[iceflower]

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Here are two more galleries of day 1:


** belga gallery 1 ** belga gallery 2 **

 

[polyesco]

thank you Iceflower those are some really nice galleries. They both look in top form.

now for a little romance, as we know Frederik proposed to Mary in Rome..
video interview with Frederik and Mary and article
https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/f...ur-til-rom-et-fantastisk-oejeblik-i-vores-liv
""For us, it's our point. 15 years ago was a great moment in our lives, in our lives. Rome is special. The big moments are between us wherever we are on the globe. So Rome is certainly not ignored, it's a nice place - this was where I got a "yes", says the Crown Prince
https://asset.dr.dk/imagescaler/?se...97a&w=1141&h=642&scaleAfter=resize&quality=75 He sure looks happy with his "yes"

 

[Muhler]

A nice little BB video from last evening: https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelige/danmark/video-mary-og-frederik-noed-en-dejlig-aften-i-rom

Notice how Frederik's arms have just the right length for him to reach his pockets.
And how Mary can't seem to keep her hands from from Frederik's stern.

 

[Roskilde]

Lovely pictures of F&M during day 1:
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=5bd16fd07a9828990acaec1138681e27&oe=5C8290A2
https://bt.bmcdn.dk/media/cache/resolve/image_1240/image/121/1216418/22429036-.jpg
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=3f7b320942af8221d5b513af303a6b8a&oe=5C6EB31A
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=24c6f9cca290e95b26a039fa2b1f8335&oe=5C75AAEE
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=884caa588de55eaea3d01e64851eb834&oe=5C7A69E0
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=f2cd8833f309f01be70befd1edd49eab&oe=5C71F738
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=1d222d1be694cd9d6d105b20ed91b4c1&oe=5C73FA77
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=225517a7c3e217d61f5ef3ce1dab5676&oe=5C440D4B
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=1d276ae4c7458cd6fbf2cdb00f301d6e&oe=5C7B6FEB
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=38f02d212455b49abbdc671cfd4df42f&oe=5C859E2A
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=a5c4cc89b0d08b48ef6006dac85b6a09&oe=5C7CA300
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=2ac0563ca376bbc5b20cbb64ec306e3a&oe=5C74CA3C
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=3bae4d5b493df5ad90768d1b245d1970&oe=5C6FEBE9
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=a405959fcabed840817fd0daa1c5ca99&oe=5C7815F6
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=251fdc758b5c76844b8f91bd11cbbb7b&oe=5C3EEBF1
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=1eece823fadcfa001edf26027064d3ed&oe=5C823305

Leaving the evening reception:
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=002e1923ee32fa71a963fba41d645b0e&oe=5C88EC46
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=9c7b2e425e55114bf042278ab48aeb52&oe=5C6F6903
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=c258bdf97615f4c324fb736fa1396d8b&oe=5C7E9CDF (Mary....)

thank you Iceflower those are some really nice galleries. They both look in top form.

now for a little romance, as we know Frederik proposed to Mary in Rome..
video interview with Frederik and Mary and article
https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/f...ur-til-rom-et-fantastisk-oejeblik-i-vores-liv

""For us, it's our point. 15 years ago was a great moment in our lives, in our lives. Rome is special. The big moments are between us wherever we are on the globe. So Rome is certainly not ignored, it's a nice place - this was where I got a "yes", says the Crown Prince

https://asset.dr.dk/imagescaler/?se...97a&w=1141&h=642&scaleAfter=resize&quality=75 He sure looks happy with his "yes"

Thanks Polyesco

A little selection from the DR article:

They managed to wander a lot around in the Italian capital before Frederik found the right place. The darkness was about to descend, when he suddenly saw an old church, and it was in front of it, he fell on his knees.

Mary said, as everyone knows, yes, and it's therefore a happy Crown Prince couple who today landed in the Italian capital, Rome, with the couple to promote business cooperation with Italy.

Crown Prince Frederik:
- For us it's our moment. 15 years ago was a fantastic moment in our lives. Rome is special. The big moments are between us wherever we are on the globe. So Rome is certainly not ignored, it's a lovely place - it was here I got a "yes".

Crown Princess Mary:
- Yes it's a city filled with some amazing/strong memories, and it's always more powerful when you're in town. But we have many more memories to create together here in the city.


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A charming little bonus:
That Mary changed the high heeled shoes with regular sneakers for her long dress is a viral hit here on the social media in Denmark.

Hundred thousand of Danes praise and love her for it. You can go through the comments yourself.
Sneakers all the way

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bp2doEanAUr/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bp2Td9QgV8n/

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=313516615903015

 

[iceflower]

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Here are some first photos of day 2 today:


** Pic ** rex gallery ** belga gallery 1 ** belga gallery 2 **