Crown Prince Frederik and Crown Princess Mary's Visit to Italy: November 6-8, 2018

[eya]

Crown Prince Couple visit to Italy 6-8 November 2018

"In 2018, Rome will fill 2,771 years, and since the beginning of Rome, innovation and science have been an integral part of Italian society and business.

Crown Prince couple will be from 6 to 8. November 2018 visit Italy with a larger Danish branch office. The headline for the Danish business promotion is "Industrial Renaissance - Catalyst for Tomorrow's Business"."

Kronprinsparret i spidsen for erhvervsfremstød til Rom | Kongehuset

[Muhler]

That's basically a follow up on QMII's last visit to Rome not that long ago.

[Mbruno]

So is it essentially a business/ trade mission ? I wish they would extend the scope of the visit.

[Nordic]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

So is it essentially a business/ trade mission ? I wish they would extend the scope of the visit.

https://danishroyalvisit.dk/italy2018/


Yes, but the program for visits like this sometimes include other events too. Something to do with culture etc

[eya]

And some details about this visit:

"Business promotion with the Crown Prince couple has 36 registered companies and will focus on solutions in health, climate change, water and energy, urbanization and sustainable food production.

The headline for the Danish business promotion is "Italy - We Think Business" and will have the following sectoral traces:
Healthcare
Urban & Cleantech
Food & Beverages

Business promotion takes place in the capital Rome where D.K.H. The Crown Prince and Crown Princess participate in a number of business activities aimed at strengthening relations between Denmark and Italy and supporting the position of Danish companies in Italy. Crown Prince couple will attend the official opening of business promotion, have lunch with President Mattarella in the presidential palace, visit business seminars and businesses and attend Grand Dinner."

Presserejse: Kronprinsparret i spidsen for stort erhvervsfremstød til Italien den 6.-8. november 2018 | Kongehuset

[iceflower]

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The Palace shared an overview of the visit's programme:


** Program for Rome visit **

Tuesday, 6 November

Luncheon at Palazzo del Quirinale
13.30
The Crown Prince Couple are received by Italy’s president, HE Sergio Mattarella, as guests at a luncheon at the presidential palace Palazzo del Quirinale.

Visit at Terme Di Caracalla
15.15


Welcoming reception
19.30


Wednesday, 7 November

Official opening of the business promotional campaign
09.45

HRH The Crown Prince’s program

Visit at seminar on healthcare
10.45

HRH The Crown Princess’s program

Visit at seminar on urbanization
10.45

Visit at seminar on food products
11.15


HRH The Crown Prince’s program

Visit at the seminar on urbanization
11.40

HRH The Crown Princess’s program

Visit at the seminar on healthcare
12.10

HRH The Crown Prince’s program

Visit at the seminar on food products
12.30

The Crown Prince Couple’s program

Business luncheon
13.10


High-level panel discussion
15.00

Visit at Gastro Event
17.00

Official dinner
19.45


Thursday, 8 November

Visit with His Holiness Pope Francis
10.00

HRH The Crown Prince’s program

Visit at the Trevi Fountain
11.20

The Crown Prince Couple’s program

Visit at Hospital Bambino Gesu
13.30

[Muhler]

Thanks, Iceflower.

A fairly routine, so to speak, commerce visit.
DK has a considerable export of energy saving products to Italy, both for the ordinary household as well as the industry and major buildings for the public.

The visit to the children's hospital couldn't be more "traditional". That's almost mandatory for princesses and should provide some nice photos with Mary.

[polyesco]

Looks like a good agenda. These trips have become a highlight with the couple. Busy days both together and separately .

Muhler, both will go to the Hospital visit, co nice pictures of Frederik too

article on the upcoming visit
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelig...k-moeder-paven

[carlota]

well, something interesting in the agenda is that they will be received by pope francis :)

i guess if we may see mary in a black mantilla for the first time for the occasion, as did other princesses in the past:

diana
madeleine
haya
stephanie

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by carlota

well, something interesting in the agenda is that they will be received by pope francis :)

i guess if we may see mary in a black mantilla for the first time for the occasion, as did other princesses in the past:

diana
madeleine
haya
stephanie

That's interesting.

I'm not familiar with the protocol regarding audiences with the Pope.
Is a mantilla mandatory? Also for Protestants? Or does it not have any religious meaning?

[ricarda]

Well, neither Diana nor Madeleine & Silvia nor Haya are Catholics.
So, it seems to be a traditional thing to wear, regardless of your religion.

[CrownPrincessJava]

Originally Posted by Muhler

That's interesting.

I'm not familiar with the protocol regarding audiences with the Pope.
Is a mantilla mandatory? Also for Protestants? Or does it not have any religious meaning?

It's protocol. Even QEII has worn the mantilla being received by the Vatican

[KMD]

I believe that non Catholics wear black, including a mantilla as head covering. Catholics can wear white.

[Iolanthe]

Originally Posted by CrownPrincessJava

It's protocol. Even QEII has worn the mantilla being received by the Vatican

I am not so sure how strict the rule is. Angela Merkel (daughter of a Lutheran pastor) seemed to wear one visiting John Paul II while being only party chairman and didn't while seeing Franciscus when she was chancellor. (Pictures of both events e.g. in this article https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article136799981/Nur-auf-die-Pizza-muss-Merkel-beim-Papst-verzichten.html )

[KMD]

Princess Charlene of Monaco wore black when meeting the Pope in 2013 and white in 2016.

[Stefan]

The rule is/was that the Queen of Spain, the Queen of the Belgians and the Grand Duchess of Luxmbourg and Princesses of Savoy had the "Privilege de Blanc" so they can wear white. This seems now also have been granted to the Princess of Monaco.

Originally Posted by Iolanthe

I am not so sure how strict the rule is. Angela Merkel (daughter of a Lutheran pastor) seemed to wear one visiting John Paul II while being only party chairman and didn't while seeing Franciscus when she was chancellor. (Pictures of both events e.g. in this article https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschl...erzichten.html )

The Protoolö seems to much more relaxedd under his succesors then under Pope John Paul II.

[KMD]

The Queen wore colours at her last meeting with the Pope. At previous meetings with previous Popes, ( she’s met five of them!) she wore black, a mantilla with a tiara, and a hat with a veil. Pope Francis is to be thanked for his more liberal views. Queen Letizia wore a smart white suit, no mantilla.

[Muhler]

I know it's a bit nerdy, but I do find details of protocol absolutely fascinating!
Especially the history behind why something is done, so please keep your input coming.

[polyesco]

A good article on their visit tomorrow focusing on the Food sector
Kronprinsparret præsenterer Danmark i Italien | Maskinbladethttps://foodnationdenmark.dk/news/th...pKtghi9c5FteS4

"The Royal Family represents my country abroad and is a constant reference point for our people". So he tells La Stampa, Erik Vilstrup Lorenzen, Danish Ambassador to Italy.
https://www.lastampa.it/2018/11/04/s...wUpdRy0l9imNDc

Article on Frederik and Mary's visit to the Pope
Kronprinsparret i audiens hos paven - TV 2

For point of reference, here is what the Queen wore when she met the pope in 2006
https://berlingske.bmcdn.dk/media/ca...os-paven--.jpg
https://imageservice.nordjyske.dk/im...rop&scale=both

[Muhler]

Thanks, Polyesco.

I hope someone will help us going through the finer details at the audience.