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11-14-2007, 03:51 PM
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I have found the official bulletin with a small part of Mr. Davost speech:
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N° 7375 du VENDREDI 29 JANVIER 1999 * MARIAGE DE SON ALTESSE SERENISSIME LA PRINCESSE CAROLINE AVEC SON ALTESSE ROYALE
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"Madame Royal
"With the approval of benevolent His Serene Highness Prince Souverain, You are now committed to each other by marriage. Allow me to present you, both on my own behalf and on behalf of the entire population of Monaco , which I am sure made me the faithful interpreter, very warm wishes of happiness for your union.
"Madam, you have an important place in the hearts of Monegasques You know whose loyalty to your family and the commitment they You wear. They appreciate your outstanding qualities and the role that is Yours in the radiance of the Principality where You continue with a bang, both in the field of art at the head of humanitarian organizations renowned work undertaken by His Serene Highness Princess Grace.
"Allow me, too, Madam, you simply wish a happy birthday, since the day of your wedding is also that of your birth.
"Highness, You who are following a prestigious family, for your union, you now mark your commitment to the Rock, so full of history, and the Principality whose inhabitants welcome you with all the heat they are customary. The Monegasques, through me, are happy to send you, with their well wishes, their congratulations and wishes of happiness deepest.
"Your Royal Highness,
"I am sorry not to speak German, but I would like to tell you in English, that the inhabitants of the Principality, speaking through me, are glad to welcome you warmly and to offer you their congratulations and their very best wishes for your happiness and the happiness of the Princess. ".....
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07-24-2008, 12:53 PM
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Here's a nice article from PEOPLE found by EllieSofie:
Ernst Goes to Monaco - Marriage, Weddings, House of Monaco, Prince Ernst, Princess Caroline : People.com
As rehearsal dinners go, it was strikingly laid-back. There, at a back table at Stars and Bars, a lively port-side Tex-Mex eatery in Monte Carlo, Her Serene Highness Princess Caroline of Monaco laughed and chatted with her intended, Prince Ernst of Hanover, and some pals, the night before her Saturday, Jan. 23, wedding. Mingling with commoner kids over Off-Road Challenge and Super Bike at the restaurant's amply stocked video-game room nearby were the couple's combined offspring—his (Ernst August Jr., 15, and Christian, 13) and hers (Andrea, 14, Charlotte, 12, and Pierre, 11). "They were one big happy family," says Stars and Bars owner Kate Powers. "Like the Brady Bunch." Right down to their Everyman repast. "Obviously they weren't here to order sea bass and champagne," observed a fellow diner (who, like other patrons that night, paid scant attention to the royal party). "Caroline likes her chips and guacamole, just like anyone else."
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10-27-2008, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fandesacs2003
Caroline's wedding with Junot had been "annuled" and Ernst was married according to the protestant church. Why they could no wed to the church??
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they could not marry in the church because even though her marriage to Junot was annuled, her marriage to Stefano had been recognized, giving her children a place in Monegesque succession. From what I have heard, she did not want to un-validate her marriage to Stefano for her childrens sake.
I was wondering, did the people of Monaco, or of the world, know that Caroline was pregnant when she married Ernest? Like, had there been an announcement or rumors of it before the wedding? Or did anyone suspect it when they saw photos of her looking a bit "bloated" in her wedding photos?
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10-29-2008, 12:49 AM
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 Caroline looks so beautiful and truly happy!!!!
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10-29-2008, 05:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlyKeira
I was wondering, did the people of Monaco, or of the world, know that Caroline was pregnant when she married Ernest? Like, had there been an announcement or rumors of it before the wedding? Or did anyone suspect it when they saw photos of her looking a bit "bloated" in her wedding photos?
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In case I remember it right there has not been any official announcement
untill the birth itself, but what I know is that there has definitely not been
any announcement before or together with the wedding.
As to pictures in the first months of the pregnancy that showed Caroline
in revealing beach-wear  and Ernst August touching her belly quite often,
it's been an open secret that she was pregnant before the wedding took
place.
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10-30-2008, 09:42 AM
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Does anybody know why Caroline wore a recycled outfit on her wedding!
It is weird!
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10-30-2008, 11:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fandesacs2003
Caroline's wedding with Junot had been "annuled" and Ernst was married according to the protestant church. Why they could no wed to the church??
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Because all those who were baptized as Christians of any faith (Protestants, Ortodox a.s.o) are all Catholic in the eyes of the Roman Catholic Church. So Ernst is still Chantal's husband to the Catholic faith, and he needs to get his first marriage annuled by the Roman Rota before he and Caroline can be allowed to get married in the Church.
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10-30-2008, 11:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlyKeira
they could not marry in the church because even though her marriage to Junot was annuled, her marriage to Stefano had been recognized, giving her children a place in Monegesque succession. From what I have heard, she did not want to un-validate her marriage to Stefano for her childrens sake. All Catholic Widows are free to remarry without any sort of annulment as long as their partner is also free to marry in the Church. The only annulment Princess Caroline needed was from her marriage to Junot.
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Actually, that is not the reason. With Casiraghi's death, Caroline was free to remarry in the Catholic Church again with no sort of validation issues to her previous marriage or children. Once he died, their marriage ended in the eyes of the church. Caroline's annulment went through after his death and was done to legitimize the children of their union - not to hold her to him for eternity. It was only necessary because Junot was still living! An annulment does not invalidate children of a union but is required to remarry. It simply states that the marriage commitment was not made in good faith (ie insanity, lies about identity, not wanting children, failure to commit, etc).
Since Prince Ernst and Princess Caroline's daughter was going to be raised protestant (to remain in the British succession) Princess Caroline could NOT marry in the Catholic Church. Members of the Roman Catholic Church who marry others of a different faith are not accorded church sanctioned weddings unless their partner agrees to raise the child Catholic. There have been other royal instances of this, including Princess Michael of Kent (where the Catholic Church actually made a statement in writing saying they were denying her church wedding and therefore she was forced to change a few days before to have a civil wedding even though she had an annulment from her previous marriage). Some people might tell the priest otherwise to be married but they are not considered Catholic and are, according to Church law not accorded sacraments.
The Catholic Church does recognize most (but not all) protestant weddings (Lutheran is one that is recognized) and therefore Prince Ernst would need an annulment to be married in the Catholic Church to Princess Caroline. It is doubtful he would be able to obtain one in the current climate of the rota (the tribunal that would hear the case).
The Catholic Church does not recognize legal weddings (like the Princess had) and so there is no need for an annulment or to present a situation where the Princess might be denied a sacrament of some sort.
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Prince Ernst August looks nice with or without glasses in photos!
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