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Old 05-26-2019, 03:37 AM
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I hardly even recognized Prince Gabriel, he has grown and changed so much!

He never seems to enjoy this event.....
Well, for me it is rather surprising that they manage to get a young man of that age (in a suit and tie!) to an event like this at all....! It isn´t something people normally do at 15, 16.
But, to be honest, to me he doesn´t look like hating it. I guess he somewhat likes classical music, too, unlike mist of his age companions, otherwise he would not have attended at all.
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Old 05-26-2019, 03:54 AM
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Wow! Gabriel has become really tall!!! He is taller than his mum and I bet she is wearing heels! And he is only turning 16 in August.
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Old 05-26-2019, 04:03 AM
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Wow! Gabriel has become really tall!!! He is taller than his mum and I bet she is wearing heels! And he is only turning 16 in August.
I don´t think that is so unusual for middle and northern european adolescents who have rather tall parents.
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Old 05-26-2019, 04:58 AM
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I don´t think that is so unusual for middle and northern european adolescents who have rather tall parents.
My father is 1.90m and my brother and I are respectively 1.90/1.75. Of course not Gabriel's height doesn't come as a surprise, but it all happened so quickly...it's just that!
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Old 05-26-2019, 04:41 PM
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I read somewhere that Fabiola supported a lot Margaretha when she lost her first child, since Fabiola had several miscarriages.
Princess Margaretha's visit to the music competition seems more clear now. And after Wikipedia-ing her (I don't really follow the Liechtenstein family much), it seems that her children were all born in Brussels so I can imagine she's very close to the BRF.
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Old 05-26-2019, 06:00 PM
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My father is 1.90m and my brother and I are respectively 1.90/1.75. Of course not Gabriel's height doesn't come as a surprise, but it all happened so quickly...it's just that!
Yes, I agree it's the seemingly sudden growth spurt that is astonishing. The same thing happened with his sister Elisabeth.

Given the height of their parents and their forebears in general, I am expecting all the BRF to be amazons lol!
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Old 05-26-2019, 06:13 PM
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I never heard of Queen Mathilde having a passion for music and I presume it's just PR. Decades ago, the propagandists pretended that Queen Elizabeth II had a passion for music and she never did.
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Old 05-26-2019, 07:47 PM
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I never heard of Queen Mathilde having a passion for music and I presume it's just PR. Decades ago, the propagandists pretended that Queen Elizabeth II had a passion for music and she never did.
LOL no PR involved here.
Mathilde has been a regular attendee of the competition together with Queen Fabiola since entering the family and she is pianist herself (there are pictures). She has regularly attended concerts, musical theater and opera. If I remember correctly couple of years ago during the summer the family attended the Salzburg Musikfestspiele for the Aida premiere with Anna Netrebko in the leading role. Moreover, since she has become Queen, taking on the patronage of the Competition, she took musicology/history of music classes, and proof is a documentary the Belgian tv aired after the first 500 days of Philippe's reign.
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Old 05-26-2019, 07:48 PM
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I agree, I don't think that Mathilde is "pretending" at all.

Toward the end of Queen Fabiola's life Mathilde regularly accompanied her to this event. Mathilde might have developed an appreciation for music under the late queen's guidance, if she didn't have it already.

I have also read on this very Forum that she insisted that music lessons be a part of the educations of each of her four children.
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Old 05-26-2019, 07:59 PM
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What would they gain from Mathilde lying about her passion for music There is no value in 'propaganda'. She could simply be there as she is expected as the queen and its an important event, and no one would think anything wrong with that.

She enjoys the concerts and attending them every year. Has fond memories of attending with Fabiola, and now going with her children. Her children studying music is well known. None of this seems fake or ungenuine. Nothing over the top. Its not like she was saying she dreamed of being a musician for years and imagines herself on stage or something.

According to her official bio she plays the piano, and is a fan of art and music.

Elisabeth and Gabriel play the piano, Emmanuel the flute and Eleanor the violin.

The family at the Salzburg festival to see Aida in 2017

https://www.newmyroyals.com/2017/08/...urg-opera.html
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Old 05-26-2019, 08:56 PM
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I never heard of Queen Mathilde having a passion for music and I presume it's just PR. Decades ago, the propagandists pretended that Queen Elizabeth II had a passion for music and she never did.
She actually plays the piano herself and made a point that all her children learned to play instruments themselves. I think that suggests a passion for music.

In any case, as Queen she is a patron of the competition , so she has to attend it anyway. I do think she genuinely enjoys it however.
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Old 05-27-2019, 08:24 AM
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The President of the Jury thanks her for what she is doing for the Competition.
The Queen received a standing Ovation .
Before her Queen Elisabeth who gave her name to the Competition , Queen Fabiola who did it during 49 years and now Queen Mathilde.
It was fine she invited the Duchess Marie of Wurtenberg and her daughter for the Finale.
Queen Paola was never involved in the Competition .
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Old 05-27-2019, 10:57 AM
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Yes that is true Queen Paola has never been the patron of the Queen Elisabeth Contest. But she did attend concerts and as far as I know not reluctantly. Her major interests lay in other areas, for example modern art. Well, everyone has their own passions.
And in addition, when Queen Paola was the Queen of the Belgians, Queen Fabiola was still alive and a very passionate patron of the Queen Elisabeth Competition. Just like Queen Mathilde now.

Below a link to the website of the Queen Elisabeth Competition. Interesting to read if you want to know more.


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I agree with those who have said that the music competition isn't a PR move with Mathilde at all. She has always seemed, for as long as I have been following the BRF, genuinely interested in music and as has been pointed out, is keen for her children to follow her passion. When Elisabeth was younger we saw her playing the piano and a couple of years ago we saw Eleonore playing the violin for her father's birthday. I'm not sure about Emmanuel and Gabriel but given the fact they've been exposed to music for a good part of their lives, I wouldn't be surprised if they take up an instrument or sing too.
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Old 05-28-2019, 06:35 AM
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I agree with those who have said that the music competition isn't a PR move with Mathilde at all. She has always seemed, for as long as I have been following the BRF, genuinely interested in music and as has been pointed out, is keen for her children to follow her passion. When Elisabeth was younger we saw her playing the piano and a couple of years ago we saw Eleonore playing the violin for her father's birthday. I'm not sure about Emmanuel and Gabriel but given the fact they've been exposed to music for a good part of their lives, I wouldn't be surprised if they take up an instrument or sing too.
As far as I know Gabriel and Emmanuel both plays an instrument. Gabriel plays the piano, whereas Emmanuel has opted for the flute. In the latest interview Mathilde gave during the Competition to RTBF she said that all her children play an instrument, and also mentioned the saxophone. My guess is that Gabriel is the one who picked the saxophone, given how "displeased" he looks when attending the concerts
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The saxofone was actually designed by a Belgian (Adolphe Sax) so it is a nice instrument for a Belgian prince(ss) to play .
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The awards ceremony took place at the Queen Elisabeth Music Chapel (Chapelle Musicale Reine Elisabeth - Muziekkapel Koningin Elisabeth) in Waterloo today, May 28:



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Yes, I agree it's the seemingly sudden growth spurt that is astonishing. The same thing happened with his sister Elisabeth.

Given the height of their parents and their forebears in general, I am expecting all the BRF to be amazons lol!
Still I don´t get what would be "surprising" about that...?
We haven`t seen him since a couple of months. And he wasn´t tiny last year already. All young men at that age grow a great deal when you haven´ t seen them quite a time. That´s what happens when you grow up, you know.
Forgive me, I don´t mean to be rude or stuff like that - but sometimes I am the one who is surprised about posts people do about the most average and normal things of human life in the world.
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As far as I know Gabriel and Emmanuel both plays an instrument. Gabriel plays the piano, whereas Emmanuel has opted for the flute. In the latest interview Mathilde gave during the Competition to RTBF she said that all her children play an instrument, and also mentioned the saxophone. My guess is that Gabriel is the one who picked the saxophone, given how "displeased" he looks when attending the concerts
Thank you for the confirmation! And also to Marengo for the extra tidbit - had no idea "Belgium" invented the saxophone.
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Still I don´t get what would be "surprising" about that...?
We haven`t seen him since a couple of months. And he wasn´t tiny last year already. All young men at that age grow a great deal when you haven´ t seen them quite a time. That´s what happens when you grow up, you know.
Forgive me, I don´t mean to be rude or stuff like that - but sometimes I am the one who is surprised about posts people do about the most average and normal things of human life in the world.

As more than one poster has pointed out, it just seems very sudden. He had not overtaken his very tall mother in height the last time I saw Prince Gabriel.

For the record, yes I am a little taken aback that you would take time out to express surprise at my surprise for a harmless post about something that is admitted normal as a teenage growth spurt..but very sudden.

Posters ruminate over normal things all the time on this board(i.e. a Royal female is past her due date for example)

I don't see the harm.
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