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Old 10-18-2018, 04:35 AM
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I suppose she is a countess van der Noot d'Assche?
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Old 10-18-2018, 05:28 AM
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I think so. Sometimes she's referred to as Princess of Assche, sometimes as Paola d'Assche Salimei and I've seen the combination Paola Salimei van der Noot d'Assche.
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Old 04-26-2021, 06:45 AM
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Belén of Limburg-Stirum has given an interview to Spanish magazine Hola.

Together with husband Count Louis and their children Jean and Inés she posed in front of the family's castle:


** hola: Belén de Limburg-Stirum, la española que forma parte de la realeza europea, nos recibe junto a su familia en su castillo de Bélgica **
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Old 04-26-2021, 07:09 AM
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What a stunning residence and I did not know that the Count was a grandson of the late Count de Paris.
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Old 04-26-2021, 11:12 AM
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What a stunning residence and I did not know that the Count was a grandson of the late Count de Paris.

Is he the son of Princess Hélène d' Orléans, who married count Evrard de Limburg Stirum ?


Another view of the castle of Huldenberg, belonging to the counts of Limburg-Stirum.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulden..._kasteel_B.jpg
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Old 04-26-2021, 11:54 AM
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Yes he is her 2nd son. The eldest son and his wife Katia are also living in/near the castle and I believe they are running a bed and breakfast on the castle grounds:

https://park7.be/?lang=fr

You can have dinner in a tipi tent:
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2020/10...g-stirum-in-h/

I believe that Count Louis is an industrial designer.
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Old 04-26-2021, 01:07 PM
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Well informed Marengo !
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Old 06-01-2021, 08:27 AM
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The Belgian tax services are doing research into the inheritance of the late Viscountess Amicie de Spoelberch (1922-2008). She was a member of the family that partly owns the brewing company AB-InBev, the largest of its kind in the world. Her parents were Viscount Olivier de Spoelberch and Madeleine de la Barre d'Erquelinnes.

https://plus.lesoir.be/375161/articl...bev-cibles-par

The viscountess died in 2008 and no inheritance tax was paid in Belgium. She lived most of her life in Belgium, she passed away in Brussels.

Amicie owned 8 million stocks of the company. The stocks were held in Luxembourg (country, not the Belgian province) and the viscountess could count on a dividend of a million Euros per year, which was placed in an account based in Arlon, Belgian Luxembourg. She was not married and had no children of her own. Her only brother Roger died in 1993, without wife or children. His share of the family fortune was inherited by his sister Amicie.

In 2001, when she was in her late 70-ties, she married the 15-years younger Luka Bailo, a Serbian businessman who was naturalized as a Belgian and who had ties to the Serbian mafia. The couple married without a prenup. There were several legal investigations into the criminal acivities of Bailo. Among other things a female doctor was found dead in his castle in Uccle in 1998, he was robbed twice and during a search in his castle the police found 8 million Euros in cash. The viscountess approached the then PM Guy Verhofstadt to try to end the investigation.

In 2004 Amicie adopted the two adult sons of Bailo from a previous marriage, named Alexis and Patrice. A few months later Bailo died due to cancer.

As Patrice and Alexis did not care too much about their sick father, the viscountess decided to disinherit them, only to discover that her stocks were embazzled by the two brothers. Her own Luxembourg lawyer Mme Farida Chorfi was involved in the embazzlement and later was convicted in Geneva to 30 months imprisonment for fraud and later for moneylaundring. She apparently redirected 66 million Euros to her own accounts.

The two brothers in the mean time moved to Switzerland and changed their last name into Bailo de Spoelberch. In a new testament Amicie decided to scrap the names of her two adoptive sons.

The legal battle was still going on when the viscountess died in 2010. The brothers decide to settle the matter with the Spoelberch family. Part of the inheritance will go to a foundation in Liechtenstein. Another part -valued at 589 million Euros- was devided between the two.

Both parties agreed to keep complete silence over the deal. That means it happened without the knowledge of the Belgian tax authorities. The dossier inheritance of Amicie de Spoelberch has featured in the so-called Lux-leaks and Panama-leaks.

As the legal time table on the tax is due to expire soon, the authorities have now relaunched an investigation into the deal.

Both the two brothers as the other heirs have hired a small army of lawyers, which will make it more difficult for the tax service to succeed.
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After getting over the initial shock of the claimed-and-bestowed princess thing, I'm still Team Delphine. I think it was fair for her to get the title, personally, and it's excellent insurance against anyone else who still wants to slander, ignore or discredit her or her kids. After getting over the shock, it didn't seem so shocking at all, but fitting. "Princess Delphine" is who she is, and she's got a right to that identity.
But surely other children of fathers not married to their mothers should have as much right to their identity as Delphine?

As I stated earlier in the other thread, it would have been fair, and fitting with the elimination of legitimacy and illegitimacy under civil law and with one in two Belgian children now being born out of wedlock, if the court had given all children the right to their parents' titles irrespective of their parents' marital status.

That is not, however, what the court chose to do. Instead, it created a one-off exception applicable to Delphine, and Delphine only. (According to the government, other noble titles are still inherited only by "legitimate direct descendent[s], in the male line" (see question 8).) Presumably, the court felt it was right to give Delphine special treatment because her father is a king while the fathers of other children are "mere" nobles. I cannot see how that could be fair.

Hopefully other children born out of wedlock to noblemen, as well as children born to noblewomen, will file suit to ask for the same rights.
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