Belgian Nobility - Page 2

**Marengo** · #21 10-31-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by maria-olivia

And what about Baron Eddy Merckx, Chevalier Adamo, Vicomte Dirk Frimout and the others who became every year near July the 21 ,members of the Belgian nobility for what they did or sometime for their heirs also.

Aren't they just nobles for life, so non-hereditairy like all those in the UK with Sir Paul McCarthy and such?

LadyLeana · #22 10-31-2008, 05:27 PM

Yes, I thought so too. I believe if you simply own enough property, you can get a noble title in Belgium. But as far as I know, the children of Eddy Merckx will not be allowed to use the title of Baron. Their titles are mostly recognition of what these people mean or have meant for the country, one way in which the King and the Government show their appreciation.

**Marengo** · #23 12-05-2008, 03:53 AM

The princely family de Ligne has its own thead, which you can find here.

**Marengo** · #24 04-08-2009, 05:49 AM

From the international edition of the Benelux Royals MB:

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Robbed of its heritage, Belgium's aristocracy licks its wounds

The T' Serstevens family has been a shareholder in what is now Fortis for longer than the state of Belgium has existed - a tradition that came to an abrupt end with the dismantlement and sale of Fortis. 'We've been robbed.'

Honor meus in altis, reads the T' Serstevens family's coat of arms: my honour in the highest. Bernard T' Serstevens had it engraved on the gatehouse of his 18th century castle in the Haspengouw area of Belgium.
"I sent a new year's card to Maurice Lippens just like I do every year," he says. Lippens, the chairman of Fortis, is a distant cousin. "But it would have been hypocratical to wish him a happy 2009." So he wished him good health instead. "He's going to need it now that he's looking at a whole year of legal claims."

Read more here.

Courtesy: Jay at the BRMB.

maria-olivia · #25 04-08-2009, 07:10 AM

Not only the aristocracy is involved , al lot of Belgians mostly old people who never thought that the FIRST bank of Belgium would have such problems..
The CEO and other Direction Members never told their costumers about the upcoming problems they already knew and they received huge amounts when they left the bank.. A shame !

Coming back to this very interesting article . This first bank called then la Generale was created during the years 1825 when the King of the Nederlands was also King of Belgium. It was one of the best things he did for our country!
These noble families did the bank during generations..
As gratefulness now people are saying that you never may have all your money in the same basket.
These families are now in a inexpected situation.. what a loss.

**MAfan** · #26 04-25-2009, 09:42 AM

A question about the admission of Archduke Rudolf of Austria and his firstborn son Carl Christian into the belgian Nobility as Princes of Habsbourg-Lorraine: Paul Theroff's site report that he has been "incorporated with his eldest son into the Belgian nobility as Prince de Habsburg-Lorraine (Serene Highness)".
My question is: why only he and his eldest son, and not his other children?

HMTLove23 · #27 04-26-2009, 09:34 AM

engagement news...

Prince Arnaud de merode and Sophie Haegelsteen-to marry May 22nd 2009

maria-olivia · #28 04-26-2009, 10:37 AM

MAFAN ,
The Habsbourg are well above the belgium Nobility .They are not mentionned in my book about the High Life of Belgium and don't have to.
Rudolf and his wife born de Villenfagne have both, I am sure for her, the belgian nationality. I don't know which nationality Carl-Christian and Marie-Astrid have. The same for Rudolf two sisters , they married foreigners.

**MAfan** · #29 04-26-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by maria-olivia

MAFAN ,
The Habsbourg are well above the belgium Nobility .They are not mentionned in my book about the High Life of Belgium and don't have to.
Rudolf and his wife born de Villenfagne have both, I am sure for her, the belgian nationality. I don't know which nationality Carl-Christian and Marie-Astrid have. The same for Rudolf two sisters , they married foreigners.

I don't refer to Rudolf's brother Carl Christian, the husband of Marie Astrid, but to Rudolf's son, also named Carl Christian.
Rudolf and Marie Helene have 8 children; their eldest son is named Carl Christian, and according to Paul Theroff is the only one of his siblings to be recognised in Belgium as Prince de Habsbourg-Lorraine; I wonder why.

Cosmos · #30 09-05-2009, 01:49 PM

Hi. I'm a long-time reader of the royal forums. I'm posting because I have became interesting in the noble houses of various countries.

So, does the belgian nobility have styles like the british nobility?

Cosmos

richardsw · #31 10-20-2009, 09:39 PM

Hey, this may be the wrong place but does anyone have any information concerning the mediatized house of Graf von Aspremont-Lynden, Baron Reckheim? Thank you for the information in advance.

**MAfan** · #32 06-20-2012, 05:35 PM

Countess Guillebert de Lannoy, née Countess Anne de Marnix de Sainte-Aldegonde, passed away on 18 June 2012, aged 74.

She was born at Eyzer on 26 May 1938 and on 14 May 1959 she married to Count Guillebert de Lannoy. They became parents of three children: Eléonore, wife of Hugues (of the Barons) van de Werve de Schilde; Amélie, Countess Jean de Renesse; and Paul.
Her husband predeceased her in 2008.
She is survived by her children and their families.

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**MAfan** · #33 09-11-2012, 05:04 PM

The engagement was announced on 11 September 2012 between Count Charles Emmanuel de Lannoy (eldest son of Count and Countess Thierry-Maurice de Lannoy) and Valentine Anciaux Henry de Faveaux (daughter of Dominique Anciaux de Faveaux and of Marie-Hélène Callewaert).

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Moonmaiden23 · #34 09-11-2012, 10:28 PM

Hmmmm...how is Count Charles-Emmanuel de Lannoy related to Countess Stephanie de Lannoy, the soon-to-be Hereditary Grand Duchess of Luxembourg?

Thanks in advance-

PssKatie · #35 09-11-2012, 11:24 PM

Well it looks to me like Countess Stephanie and Count Charles-Emmanuel share the same great-great grandparents in Count Charles de Lannoy and Emma du Parc. That would make them third cousins.

Moonmaiden23 · #36 09-12-2012, 12:28 AM

Wow, good job...the de Lannoys are an enormous dynasty, apparently linked with everyone who is anyone in Belgium.

Thank you PssKatie!

**MAfan** · #37 09-12-2012, 06:44 AM

Besides, the father of Charles Emmanuel, Count Thierry-Maurice, is a cousin of Countess Minthia de Lannoy, who is married to Prince Antoine Lamoral de Ligne and who is himself a first cousin of Grand Duke Henri of Luxembourg.

maria-olivia · #38 09-12-2012, 05:02 PM

Mafan, have you noticed that at Archduke’s Imre wedding Archduchess Marie-Helène wore the Habsbourg women decoration with a black ribbon such as Impress Zita and Archduchess Regina wore at several weddings.
Archduchess Marie Astrid did not wear it ????

Kit · #39 09-12-2012, 05:17 PM

Well to me it appears to be the Order of the Starry Cross (Sternkreuzorden) which is not simply a Habsburg women order but the highest order for females within the whole Habsburg empire. Maybe Marie Astrid is not a member of the order, just as Francesca the wife of Karl is not a member because she doesn't have the 16 noble great grandparents. And that despite being the wife of the head of the whole family.

**MAfan** · #40 09-12-2012, 05:42 PM

It seemed to me as well that it was the Order of the Starry Cross. I really don't know why Archduchess Marie-Astrid didn't wear it, and certainly it's possible that she simply isn't a member of the order; unfortunately, I've not been able to find any list of the members of that order.